After reading this post, I can see why GW2G is so harsh on its posters.
Threads like these can get out of hand really quickly.
About the launcher: I have never been bothered with WoW's launcher, so if GW2's launcher is going to be the same, it's fine with me.
About the community: Please remember that you are a part of the community aswell (this counts for everyone obviously).
If you don't like the community, then do something about it.
Instead of discussing whether the GW2 community is going to be good or not, try to make the community better yourself.
Try to be friendly, stop discussions from getting out of hand, don't feed the trolls.
I'm not specifically talking about this thread, but about every thread you will participate in in the future.
Anyone can change the direction a discussion is going, be it for the better or the worse.
And it's up to the community (and obviously the moderators) to stop a discussion from going the wrong way.
PS. Do have some faith in the community.
It's never going to be perfect, but that doesn't mean it's going to be terrible
Advertisements > Monthly Fees, lol. I probably would not try it if there was a monthly fee. I might not anyways since I'm still having fun with WoW and SWTOR. Sleep, why do you always interrupt my gaming?!
its far too hopeful to think your community is going to be idiot free. Its just not going to happen. the Community will be no better or worse than any other. same shit different game
Anarchy Online had in game advertising. The game was set in the future, ala Blade Runner film, where the billboards and video screens in game played adverts. One of the superhero MMOs had this as well, but I confuse them all the time.
In-game adverts can be done okay-ish.
EQ2 had like Domino's Pizza advertisements in the chat box. LOL, you could "hail pizza" and order one from the chat too. Hahaha.
EQ > every game ever made.
it'll be just as and as bad as any other video game community.
I've never posted GW2Guru, or spent much time there... but after reading that post, I'm surprised that it's still up with what I've heard about its mods.
But, if this is what mosts posts are like, I can see why they're so strict. You call them Natzi's, I say those mods are just doing their job keeping the trash cleaned up. Because as OP has proven, people will argue about ANYTHING. They will make personal attacks and deconstruct fully ANY argument about ANY topic. Is it really worth arguing over a launcher? Does it really mean that much? Doubtful. In the grand scheme of things, it means little to nothing. People just enjoy arguing, and quite frankly, I hope the mods clean it up.
About the community however, OP's comments are spot on. In every community lays assholes, and trolls looking to just insult and ruin people's day. Every community. However, the "in game" community is the only one Anet really wants to have an "official GW2 community" stamp. I can't find the quote, or remember where I heard it, but I want to say that Anet stated they don't want official forums because they only want the 1 community in game. I don't know if its because they want to avoid forum trolls, but I know its so that one community can develop; and since the way Anet built GW2 is conducive to community building, it makes sense to only have 1 community.
I just hope that after a while the trolls and assholes will get bored when they realize that they have a very VERY hard time trolling in game. I also hope that the mods on GW2Guru continue to do their jobs of "internet garbage men."
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There is no exclusivity for the games community. If anything F2P mmo's are a lot worse than p2p, it being the "next big thing" will make it worse again. Im going to sit on the bench for the launch of this one, see how its going after a few months then have a proper look at it.
Not sure why OP had to re-posted this here tho?
I wouldn't take much of what you see on guru seriously anyways..considering its the home of threads like 'how to reduce the smuttiness of armor'. :P I visit for the news section since they sometimes have articles up that I may have missed. ._.
The guildwars 2 in game community will be better then most other games currently are for the same reason said games had a good community in the past.
First it will be new, everyone will be leveling making friendlists this has been seen in all mmo's since wow, Eve Aion rift swtor.
People who join the mass invite big giant guilds will have lots of people from which to get help doing hard quests and 5 mans.
Second Guildwars2 is built in a way to encourage people to get along, there is no kill stealing, there is no quest mob stealing, no tagging, no chest and herb and mining stealing, you will not go fuck another player, you will go hurray another player, mobs drop more loot when more players are part of the fight.
And finally PvP the tripple server battles will develp server bonds between players on the same server, they will come to know each other who can be relied on etc.
In time this simple fact of the gameplay will produce a good strong bonded community.
And you will be proven wrong for doubting it.
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i dont understand.... who cares?
i would click through 50 ads per login if it got me into a great game that i loved playing..
Advertisments about stuff for the game your playing is perfectly ok on the launcher, as long as the login screen is not involved.
And the advertisments are not in game.
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I've never heard anything about it going to be happiest game and community ever. Isn't it mainly a PVP game anyway? Therefore there will probably be even more dick heads.
At best, it's no more a PVP game than World of Warcraft is a PVP game.
There are two factors that contribute to GW2 community best evar:
1) in GW1, you only met players for a short time in cities then went off solo or with a friend to do a mission. There was no global chat, no barrens chat or anything like that, so you never really had a chance to talk. If you went to PvP outposts the fun began: people couldn't join the groups without PvP rank, but couldn't get PvP ranks without groups, so the community was split into grouped people who played PvP and reaped the rewards and poor beggars trying to get in but it was hardly possible to PUG with 8 people.
2) game hadn't launched yet. What most people see as community is GW2Guru, since it's the biggest GW2 fansite at the moment. Most of it's members are crazy lore fanboys, who don't really care about the gameplay as long as lore fits. Other people who were slightly negative or cautious of GW2 were banned or are having their posts regularly deleted for "derailing the thread". You could compare it to GW2 section on MMORPG.com - there's no heavy moderation, and there are far more people complaining about game features. While I don't mind heavy moderation, because it's up to fansite to decide, you can just switch, I hope ANet doesn't take GW2Guru as the only gauge of community opinions, because like I said, theirs are heavily lore skewed.
Maybe GW2 will have a nice community, who knows until the game is released? We don't , exactly.
So what is so wrong with someone being optimistic? We need more optimism in this world, do we not?
As for my own Opinion, i expect the Community to be about the same as any other MMO, but with slightly less asshats, for the sole reason that there is no benefit in GW2 from being one. Gear is not important, you cant steal anything from someone else and the more people who do stuff together, the better the rewards for ALL. Soi can see where Kokui is coming from.
Any online community not heavily policed with severe repercussions for rude/unsavory behavior (and no way to transfer/reset your reputation) is going to be just like every other. This type of thing really needs to stop. There is always going to be that majority group of below average players, each one thinking they're better than the next, and entitled to everything they desire without having to put forth much effort, passing inaccurate information and tired jokes between them, berating anyone who dare ask a question or be unsure of something. The typical "im the internet cool guy badass" attitude. The general public (especially online) is downright disgusting. Until the companies start attempting to keep people in line (this won't be easy by any means), it's not going to change.
Last edited by Varyk; 2012-02-05 at 09:52 AM.