I keep hearing it's BiS but Rawr just gave 416 WoU and 410 CotC as BiS.
I keep hearing it's BiS but Rawr just gave 416 WoU and 410 CotC as BiS.
shard of woe has not been bis since the end of firelands, anyone who tells you different is stupid
SoW is still comfortably BIS for arcane mages. The latest Rawr shows it as being superior to heroic cunning and insignia by upwards of 400 dps.
Secret hint: Equip SoW in Rawr and watch it's value skyrocket. It doesn't look like it properly calculates it's value when it's not equipped.
It's called Bloodlust not Heroism.
I used to be a good player once. Now I'm a casual
That can sometimes be the case if you're using incremental optimizations without simple stacking. In that situation when comparing gear Rawr won't consider significant changes in burn/conserve/cooldown stacking. Since SoW can cause a significant change in mana consumption it can require a big change in the burn/conserve so it'll only be forced to completely recompute everything once you equip it.
If you have simple stacking enabled (which I would recommend for arcane), then incremental optimization setting is ignored mostly as the whole stacking is determined dynamically for each comparison. So in this situation you wouldn't see this kind of behavior from the comparison charts.
And no, SoW is not BIS, at least based on the tests I've done. If you've run the tests some time ago you should know that simc for a long time didn't take multipliers into effect for damage proc trinkets such as mana adept and arcane power, so that may be why you got a wrong result. (actually this was only just fixed on 2/2/2012 so it's not even in the live build yet)
Last edited by Kavan; 2012-02-07 at 11:43 PM.
You should use SimCraft and test the trinkets you own, one by one.
I did it with my char, and SoW is the best trinket I have according to SimCraft (as Arcane)
Join Date:Feb 2011Posts:54You should use SimCraft and test the trinkets you own, one by one.
I did it with my char, and SoW is the best trinket I have according to SimCraft (as Arcane)
You should use SimCraft and test the trinkets you own, one by one.
As for me, considering my gear, Shard of Woe is still BiS when I am playing Arcane (even though I have the chance to possess every DS Normal Caster Trinket) , and since there was a noticeable difference with the others trinkets available, I assumed it was generally the same.
I would support the idea of testing everything by yourself !
I have reported a discrepancy between Rawr and SimCraft since I noticed the same.
OK, it wasn't clear immediately to me from Kavan's message in here but he has answered that SimCraft is apparently the one with the problem here.
Just in case there's any confusion, this is the relevant issue on simc: http://code.google.com/p/simulationc...ail?id=1116#c1. I've run the developer build with T13 BIS and replacing SoW with CotC improves dps.
Using incremental cooldowns and simple stacking, SoW still shows as #1 on my character unless I remove synapse springs. =|
It's called Bloodlust not Heroism.
I used to be a good player once. Now I'm a casual