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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by woopytywoop View Post
    well if searing is placed while the one taking the log is in the other realm, it would explain it. Especially if you only refresh it once a min.

    Check logs where someone fails over using the button at hour of twilight, you can't see that event because you are somewhere else. Same goes for placing totems. If the log is taken by a healer and they use heroic will at pull and shaman uses elemental, the whole damage of the elemental will go unnoticed.

    it was mentioned in the other thread where resto's were discussing their dps at ultra.
    1 - His fire elemental is on the log anyway
    2 - Whilst this is true, the likelihood of you being in the other realm to the person taking the log that often when you put Searing Totem down seems incredibly unlikely. It would explain maybe even up to a 70% or 80% uptime, but more than that seems incredibly unlikely, unless the person taking it is like a rogue who takes 3 Hour of Twilights and gets an absolute tonne of Fading Lights at those exact times. For more Accurate results, he should get his Shaman to take a log of himself though.


  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by orderschvank View Post
    then hes just bad, i have less gear, and less mastery than him, but do more DPS
    He's not bad AT ALL. He's a good player, perhaps he's not top in this fight but he learns fast, he cares about his performance (that's why I posted here) and is more engaged than other players.

    He just came back to wow in mid 4.2 and he's raiding progression mostly since this last patch, and his focus are very different from wow, but he shows interest when I talk to him about that, and we do frequently. Is just that he's not used to lure forums/tools to improve, so I'm helping him.

    Basically, about the constructive criticism going on this thread , let me recapitulate:
    1. Improve Reforging/Gemming via SimCraft
    2. Improve uptime on fire totems
    3. Improve uptime of Flame Shock
    4. Improve Lava Burst usage
    5. Throwing Unleash Elements just before each Heroic Will
    6. Stack all int-buffs before throwing Fire Elemental Totem?
    Last edited by vynka; 2012-02-09 at 07:24 PM.

  3. #23
    Remember the pots! Pre-pot and another pot in combat... apart from that seems like you did a nice recap

    I don't know what kind of UI he uses - but a proper UI where he has easy access to information on when his "stuff procs", debuffs, FS uptime, LvB CD LS stacks and stuff like that is also really important.

  4. #24
    He have used both Volcanic Potions

  5. #25
    obvious answer is obvious, he clearly didn't have flame-tongue weapon applied.

    do believe it is invisible in the logs... but with medium player error i would assume he could pull around 37k meaning that 8% dmg loss or w.e would prolly put him to 35-36k... then the small nitpick things like missing couple lavasurge procs, would prolly put him up to around 37... which, regardless of sim, is what i would assume the average person with average lag would pull on this fight.
    Last edited by hopethisnameisnottaken; 2012-02-10 at 09:52 PM.

  6. #26
    Ok. Uhm... really, I don't know what to say. The image I quoted explained it pretty well but it seems mods didn't like it so, yea, I guess I'll have to answer.

    Why on earth do you asume he's lacking such an obvious thing?

    If you want proof that he's not lacking it go check the last source of dmg here: http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-c2...kmx/details/4/

  7. #27
    Do not listen to the people who claim that he is bad etc. He could have higher uptime on a few things and he could possibly squeeze out a little more dps, but this is nowhere near as bad as most people make it out to be.

    It looks to me like somehow the logs bugged out for totemic wrath as it often/always does unless the shaman is the person logging. I have had 99-100% uptime on totemic wrath every week and still it says something like 87% in the logs, it is not possible for it to be that low since I get a big fat red totem in the middle of my screen whenever it is missing, so there is just no way that it would be down for more than a GCD.

    He has no DTR
    He is not getting tott
    He does not have FM
    He is not getting DI/PI

    He only has a few epic gems, he has quite a bit of LFR gear and a FL trinket still.

    People claiming to do 40k in LFR gear with one hand on their back and no talent points spent etc are either full of it and/or doing normal mode. Sure he could probably pull 36-37k with better uptime on stuff and a bit of luck on overloads etc, but do not expect him to do 42k anytime soon.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Yourgrounded View Post
    Do not listen to the people who claim that he is bad etc. He could have higher uptime on a few things and he could possibly squeeze out a little more dps, but this is nowhere near as bad as most people make it out to be.

    It looks to me like somehow the logs bugged out for totemic wrath as it often/always does unless the shaman is the person logging. I have had 99-100% uptime on totemic wrath every week and still it says something like 87% in the logs, it is not possible for it to be that low since I get a big fat red totem in the middle of my screen whenever it is missing, so there is just no way that it would be down for more than a GCD.

    He has no DTR
    He is not getting tott
    He does not have FM
    He is not getting DI/PI

    He only has a few epic gems, he has quite a bit of LFR gear and a FL trinket still.

    People claiming to do 40k in LFR gear with one hand on their back and no talent points spent etc are either full of it and/or doing normal mode. Sure he could probably pull 36-37k with better uptime on stuff and a bit of luck on overloads etc, but do not expect him to do 42k anytime soon.
    You countered your own point in the first line. "He could possibly squeeze out a little more DPS". Thats the whole point of what we are saying.


  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Undefetter View Post
    You countered your own point in the first line. "He could possibly squeeze out a little more DPS". Thats the whole point of what we are saying.
    My point was that he is not bad, at worst he is pretty average from what I see on logs all of the time. I was not addressing you, I was addressing the people who are calling him bad and claiming stuff that is not true.

  10. #30
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    For Heroic Ultraxion only, I like this perspective and it works for me as I don't have a legendary staff

    - Pick back up 2piece heroic Tier 12 (I used shoulders and legs, he might want to use Shoulders and Chest)
    - Drop Unleashed Lightning glyph for Fire Elemental Glyph (with a bit of luck, FET should have an 90+% uptime)
    - Drop Chain Lightning glyph for Elemental Mastery Glyph
    - Use this spec - http://www.wowhead.com/talent#hhGMGRfkzGZboZbhb


    Taken from http://wow.joystiq.com/2012/02/04/totem ... #continued (Their spec link is broken, so use mine above) Seemed to be competitive last night for me (~38k avg on 25man). Because I don't have heroic T13, dropping T13 for heroic T12 only costs me 100sp or so, with little effect on the rest of my stats. Doesn't work on normal Ultraxion, as the fight is too short to benefit all the readjusting required for maximizing FET uptime.


    Also, use this in your Heroic Will macro:

    /stopcasting
    /cast Unleashed Elements
    /click ExtraActionButton1

    - if you are off the gcd when its time to go in, you will squeeze in a UE. If not, you will use Heroic Will anyway. Fair warning, I learned the hard way that it creates a short lag before using Heroic Will, so you can't be too ballsy with the macro.


    ** For what its worth, I think this gear/strategy will give more consistent dps, as you won't be relying on the RNG of 4pc t13 and you can get far more consistent dps from one attempt to the next. Given that you are already killing heroic Ultraxion, and not just "working on the fight" it might not be as useful to him but I just thought I'd share.

  11. #31
    Well we only killed it twice, last week we couldn't. He did better using positive feedback from this thread.

    Here are the logs if you're curious. http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-j3...?s=3188&e=3499

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