390 Gurthalak or 397 Slicer in MH for a Fury???

**Baires18st** · 2012-02-09, 04:33 PM

Just wat the tittle says

**underdogba** · 2012-02-09, 04:35 PM

I heard a rumor that amazing things happen if you type the exact title of this thread into the box on google!

**tetrisGOAT** · 2012-02-09, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by Distiller

normal axe < lfr sword < hero axe < normal sword < hero sword

Found in a thread not too far below.

**Ciddy** · 2012-02-09, 05:33 PM

Just make sure you don't type Google into Google. Can't have you going around breaking the Internet.

**Diggasson** · 2012-02-09, 05:34 PM

here you go http://lmgtfy.com/?q=390+Gurthalak+o...+for+a+Fury%3F

**Bekro** · 2012-02-09, 05:51 PM

390 Gurth MH.

**Cleeq** · 2012-02-09, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by Diggasson

here you go http://lmgtfy.com/?q=390+Gurthalak+o...+for+a+Fury%3F

Its quite funny, that the results for that search if you're feeling lucky, is this thread.

**Bekro** · 2012-02-09, 05:58 PM

Isn't the search the exact title of this thread to the 3 ??? at the end?

Then wouldn't it make sense that this is the most relevant one? :P

**Gandrake** · 2012-02-09, 07:58 PM

you are all doing it wrong

i'll show you how its done

....cant fury warriors dual wield?

**ripslyme** · 2012-02-09, 11:57 PM

dont wanna open a new thread

Whats better ?

2x 403 Gurthalak or 1x Gurthalak 1x 410 Axe of Yorsahj ?

**Symph** · 2012-02-10, 06:02 AM

MH 403 Gurth, OH 410 Axe.

**Gandrake** · 2012-02-10, 07:36 AM

iirc, you're supposed to put the weapon with the most top end in your mainhand because deep wounds does damage based off of weapon damage.

**Calgus-CC** · 2012-02-10, 07:38 AM

Gurth for Main hand, Slicer for off

Currently using the 403 Gurth Main hand and the 410 slicer off hand myself. The proc from Gruth is more than worth it. The difference in dps won't matter as much as the proc. The proc alone, even on the 390 version is roughly about 5-7% of your damage on every fight.

definitely don't run 2 gruth's, the proc on the off hand is terrible. You'll see more benefit from the stats on the 410. Check out Landsoul's spreadsheet for confirmation...

**Bekro** · 2012-02-10, 08:46 AM

I was doing some experimenting with this, I also have 2 403 Guthralaks, however the heroic ESS hasn't dropped for me yet so I have the 397 one.

Is it still worth replacing that with a 403 guthralak for the OH?

It gives mastery which is not really ideal for fury, but I do get a decent improvement on hit when I reforge that.

I've put Guth on my OH and ESS on MH just to test on the dummy for about 5 minutes or so, and the tentacle did 4% of my damage, isn't that still worth keeping ? For the 397 version at least, since it doesn't give as much stats as the heroic.

**Symph** · 2012-02-10, 06:38 PM

403 Gurth MH and 397 Slicer OH....

Ok to be more clear. The same ilevel Gurths share a proc. Now, let me explain here before people misunderstand and jump to conclusions. If you have a 403 Gurth in your MH and OH, you can BT and this has a chance to proc both tentacles... However, since you are using the same weapon, with the same proc, it can only proc one. If you run a 403 Gurth MH and 390 Gurth OH, it's possible for your Bloodthirst to proc 2 tentacles.

Now, remember that tentacles are not a 100% proc chance. So if you run a 403 Gurth MH and OH, the offhand can still proc too, just not from the exact same attack that procced your MH, and vice versa.

This really affects the integrity of your dummy test too (not that dummy tests really have any integrity to begin with anyway).

**Sinister Knight** · 2012-02-11, 08:58 AM

Shall I take this to mean that a 390 Gurth in OH is better than a 397 Slicer? ( I have 2 403 gurths and just picked up the Slicer, been meaning to test it in OH since I'd heard about the proc issues with double same ilvl Gurths).

**Agallochh** · 2012-02-11, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by Symph

403 Gurth MH and 397 Slicer OH....

Ok to be more clear. The same ilevel Gurths share a proc. Now, let me explain here before people misunderstand and jump to conclusions. If you have a 403 Gurth in your MH and OH, you can BT and this has a chance to proc both tentacles... However, since you are using the same weapon, with the same proc, it can only proc one. If you run a 403 Gurth MH and 390 Gurth OH, it's possible for your Bloodthirst to proc 2 tentacles.

Now, remember that tentacles are not a 100% proc chance. So if you run a 403 Gurth MH and OH, the offhand can still proc too, just not from the exact same attack that procced your MH, and vice versa.

This really affects the integrity of your dummy test too (not that dummy tests really have any integrity to begin with anyway).

Wheres the evidence and truth in this statement? And if it's true, why do most BiS lists show 2xGurth?

**Bekro** · 2012-02-13, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by Agallochh

Wheres the evidence and truth in this statement? And if it's true, why do most BiS lists show 2xGurth?

I'm curious about this too, I guess it's hard to test it?

**Lohe** · 2012-02-13, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by Agallochh

Wheres the evidence and truth in this statement? And if it's true, why do most BiS lists show 2xGurth?

There were some quite extensive testing posted on EJ. Most BiS lists were made before this was discovered and Simcraft doesn't simulate this behavior (at least I don't think so)

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