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  1. #281
    Quote Originally Posted by Delias View Post
    http://i.imgur.com/ml7un.jpg 84 FPS, 25man raid, 'in a crowd'.
    http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...711_185248.jpg
    Can't see exactly what my FPS was there, looks like 52 in the middle of combat with plenty of addons on.

    And as I said, had over 100FPS in both SWTOR and rift both had over 100 FPS while questing and in town (which is all I did in that game) so I doubt it would be much less than 60 in a raid environment.
    But yes, I'm sure 'bf3 is the exception' *rolls eyes*
    first, 25ppl standing in this area not casting spells and not mounted. without water nearby etc. that is not what i could honestly call '60fps on ultra'. especially there is no dx11 effects visible there.
    second is a good fps fight, unlike ultraxion or madness. but as you said, its 50fps average, not 60.

    from what we have seen gw2 have much better gfx and beta have ultra settings blocked, that should mean the 50fps will go down to 30-40.

    and yes bf3 is an exception. unlike crysis2, dirt 3, shogun or metro 2033 it has good fps, especially on nv5xx.

  2. #282
    Quote Originally Posted by purefury View Post
    first, 25ppl standing in this area not casting spells and not mounted. without water nearby etc. that is not what i could honestly call '60fps on ultra'. especially there is no dx11 effects visible there.
    second is a good fps fight, unlike ultraxion or madness. but as you said, its 50fps average, not 60.

    from what we have seen gw2 have much better gfx and beta have ultra settings blocked, that should mean the 50fps will go down to 30-40.

    and yes bf3 is an exception. unlike crysis2, dirt 3, shogun or metro 2033 it has good fps, especially on nv5xx.
    Meh.
    You also have to factor in the fact that MMOs are not FPSs, and you do not notice the difference between 40 and 60FPS. (unless it's your processor lowering your FPS, as that is more noticeable than video card FPS lag in MMOs)
    And I didn't say 25people standing relatively still was '60fps on ultra', I said 25people standing relatively still was '84fps on ultra'.
    In combat the lowest I've ever noticed in 25man raids has been 25FPS, and that was when Ultraxion was bugged and people were DCing like mad so hardly counts. (Also not counting when I was screen sharing and frapsing madness. Lol.)
    I doubt GW2 will be so badly optimized that a computer that can get around 60+FPS at all times (besides random factors, like Ultraxion) with everything on ultra in other MMOs (as I said, didn't drop below 60 in rift or SWTOR either, besides one terribly optimized cave in swtor that randomly dropped me to 30 even though I had 100+ EVERYWHERE else I went in that game. Point is the wow = toasters argument doesn't work) will be unable to get 50-60FPS in GW2 at most times, with maybe AA/shadows turned down slightly (besides large team battles, we need to see what they do about those.)

  3. #283
    Quote Originally Posted by Delias View Post
    Meh.
    You also have to factor in the fact that MMOs are not FPSs, and you do not notice the difference between 40 and 60FPS. (unless it's your processor lowering your FPS, as that is more noticeable than video card FPS lag in MMOs)
    i agree that fps above 40 in stress is still great and everything else below, but i answered precise question as i understood it: will 570 play gw2 on max details with 60fps. imo it will not be possible, unless max settings are strongly limited.
    if he asked will it play good fps with high details my answer would be: surely

  4. #284
    Quote Originally Posted by purefury View Post
    i agree that fps above 40 in stress is still great and everything else below, but i answered precise question as i understood it: will 570 play gw2 on max details with 60fps. imo it will not be possible, unless max settings are strongly limited.
    if he asked will it play good fps with high details my answer would be: surely
    Fair enough, I guess the question should be reworded not your answer.
    Even the 680 won't get a constant 60FPS if enough people are concentrated in one spot in WvW, I'm sure.

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    I do agree my initial question was poorly worded. It's pretty much impossible to get 60fps across the board in ANY mmo, simply because there are so many multiplitive factors at play in terms of player count, spell effect count, shadow shaders being used, etc. I wouldn't expect my card to sit idle on 60fps in GW2, but it would be good to know if it will comfortably sit in the 40-60 range if I had all settings maxed out (except perhaps shadows, I don't ~need~ that to be topped off) without wandering out of that range. On my old pc, I got very used to raiding DS25 in like 7fps, which was abysmal, and I really REALLY never want to return to that kind of environment again in a game like GW2, especially on a computer I very recently built SPECIFICALLY to play GW2 on. I can comfortably play at anything as low as 30fps. I'd just prefer knowing I don't have to.

    (PS I would use the linked sites to see for sure where my pc stands interms of recommended specs, but currently I can't access my gaming pc to do so)
    Last edited by Scythax; 2012-04-13 at 08:28 AM.

  6. #286
    Forgive me, I know nothing of computers. Would I be able to run GW2 on this computer?
    http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/l...NP700Z3A-S06US

  7. #287
    Quote Originally Posted by Scythax View Post
    (PS I would use the linked sites to see for sure where my pc stands interms of recommended specs, but currently I can't access my gaming pc to do so)
    There are no recommended specs for the game yet,
    any websites linked will just tell you whether or not you meed the minimum.
    And I can't imagine you not being able to play with a comfortable FPS in gw2, besides possibly having to lower AA/shadows.
    If a 560ti doesn't get decent FPS on mostly ultra settings, it will mean that more average PCs won't get decent FPS on low, which I doubt anet intends.
    Considering games that won't even run on my laptop (bf3) don't dip below 60FPS on my 560ti, GW2 having below 40FPS on it would mean that average-lower end PCs would be beyond screwed.

  8. #288
    Will this run it on Really good settings?
    Quad phenom 955 clocked at 3.6ghz
    560 ti
    ddr3 8gb ram

  9. #289
    Quote Originally Posted by Antherios View Post
    2. Im buying a new super pc around December, but could you recommend me the best value upgrade for my current shitty pc?
    by that i mean, the upgrade that will make my games (GW2, Rift, WoW, etc) run better than now, with the less amount of money investment.

    Thank you in advance ;P
    It depends how do you plan upgrade your comp in future. Both your graphic card and processor arnt best for MMOs imo. There is no rly cheap upgrade, its either processor + motherboard, or graphic card or both and no1 will be rly cheap if you want see difference and not change that part in few months.

    As you said you planing on build powerfull rig I guess you will go with Intel processor. In that case, as for now I would sugest something like that:

    - get motherboard which support Ivy Bridge processors - one which you wont change it in future - get to that Pentium G860 processor (its Pentium based on Sandy Bridge and its still visible faster then your Athlon), in december you can change that Pentium processor on Ivy Bridge one and maybe sell Pentium to get some bucks back - its more expensive option, but you wont need buy motherboard in future and you will see difference in performance compared to your current processor.
    or
    - get cheapest motherboard which support Pentium G860 plus that processor - change both in December - its cheapest option and you will see difference compared to your processor but you will want change both parts for new comp.

    Check this site for best bang for buck perts in differnt price ranges - http://www.hardware-revolution.com/

  10. #290
    amd x6 1090t 3.3ghz
    8gb gskill dd3ram 1600mhz
    oz agility ssd
    ati radeon 6950

    can i run with this on max settings?

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    Just to clarify (for everyone):

    No one can tell how well you can run the game. Nobody know what specs are required for good / high / ultra / best / max / super graphics. All we (well, they, the ones who are actually knowledgeable) can really tell is whether or not your computer passes the minimum specs. Everything else will have to wait until ArenaNet announces the recommended settings.

  12. #292
    Quote Originally Posted by Jigain View Post
    Just to clarify (for everyone):

    No one can tell how well you can run the game. Nobody know what specs are required for good / high / ultra / best / max / super graphics. All we (well, they, the ones who are actually knowledgeable) can really tell is whether or not your computer passes the minimum specs. Everything else will have to wait until ArenaNet announces the recommended settings.
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  13. #293
    Quote Originally Posted by Jigain View Post
    Just to clarify (for everyone):

    No one can tell how well you can run the game. Nobody know what specs are required for good / high / ultra / best / max / super graphics. All we (well, they, the ones who are actually knowledgeable) can really tell is whether or not your computer passes the minimum specs. Everything else will have to wait until ArenaNet announces the recommended settings.
    As addition, some footage from Beta tests (GW2 Insiders one come to mind) have info about comp spec on which footage was recorded. So that can give soem rough idea how your system could perfom IN BETA of game. In relase version it might be differnt depending how good optimalisation is in beta.

    Its looks like this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBaZyEUSwx0 at end of video you have comp spec. But no info about game settings (as far as I know beta is limited to High settings as maximum anyway
    Last edited by Kanrei; 2012-04-13 at 01:48 PM. Reason: Added example of video with comp spec

  14. #294
    Quote Originally Posted by Jigain View Post
    Just to clarify (for everyone):

    No one can tell how well you can run the game. Nobody know what specs are required for good / high / ultra / best / max / super graphics. All we (well, they, the ones who are actually knowledgeable) can really tell is whether or not your computer passes the minimum specs. Everything else will have to wait until ArenaNet announces the recommended settings.
    There will be some in the community who may have a reasonably good idea on what specs may be required for certain settings - or, perhaps, better to say, they will have first hand experience on how the client ran on a particular set of hardware - but are unable to let others know at this point due to the NDA they're under - which effectively means you're spot on the money, Jigain

    Folks, to put things into a different perspective - in the next couple of weeks, there will be plenty of players participating in a BWE with all sorts of hardware. Once that weekend is over, I am sure many will be able to comment first hand on how the client ran on their machine, and also will be able to specify exactly what that hardware is. In the meantime, the wisest advice I could give you is to hold onto your cash, and make no upgrades now - prices on computer components almost always come down, and if you wait, analyse the performance and specs of those in the BWE, you can then make informed decisions about what needs upgrading in your rig, if anything.

    You will be almost guaranteed to have a minimum of 4, and likely several more weeks after the first BWE in which to analyse, and decide, and purchase any upgrades you're planning on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melandra View Post
    amd x6 1090t 3.3ghz
    8gb gskill dd3ram 1600mhz
    oz agility ssd
    ati radeon 6950

    can i run with this on max settings?
    There's nothing wrong with your 6950 and the 8gb ram, although i dont have any experience with the 1090t, so i can't assure you if you're able to play it on max settings but high settings shouldnt be a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamikrazy View Post
    Will this run it on Really good settings?
    Quad phenom 955 clocked at 3.6ghz
    560 ti
    ddr3 8gb ram
    I assume "really good settings" is between high and ultra, then you don't have a thing to worry about for sure.


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    and using a 27" Asus monitor, just couldnt resist to post it but man im gonna enjoy playing gw2
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    I would recommend a better video card
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  20. #300
    I did the link and it says I can run it but I just want to know what settings do you think it can run on.

    Intel Core i7 Q840 1.87GHz (8 CPUs) ~1.9GHz
    6GB Memory (1x 2GB, 1x 4GB DDR3)
    Dual 1024 MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 with ATI CrossFireX
    640GB Raid 0 (2x 320GB 7,200RPM HDDs)

    Also my laptop has a turbo mode but I don't really know if it's automatic or manual. Never really touched it O_o (3.20GHz Turbo Mode, 8M Cache)
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