Enh shaman open.

**zorca** · 2012-02-10, 06:38 PM

Currently on heroic Ultraxion and was just wondering what is the best way to start the opener. Its a little hard for me to figure out a good opener just because you start face to face with him. Its not like zon'ozz where you Unleash Elements, pop wolfs, drop earth ele. All while ur running up to him.

Also I would like to get an second opinion on the way im reforging and my gems. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Zorca/advanced

**Firminator** · 2012-02-10, 07:08 PM

Everything looks pretty good as far as i can tell. The only upgrades i can see besides the obvious (epic gems etc) is that you are an engineer but dont have your tinkers. Im not actually sure if those will help in a pve situation though, so upgrading to LW/JC/BS is nice bc of the extra stats. Other than that your reforging priorities are right and your gemming looks good.

Edit: Your melee hit looks a bit high. On my shammy im at exactly 17% spell hit and i dont think my melee hit was over 19.5% but sometimes thats unavoidable. Ill have to check when i get on later though, i could be thinking of another toon.

**DistortionSleep** · 2012-02-10, 07:10 PM

Best opener? Just do the normal priority since you are in melee range 100%.

**Strann** · 2012-02-10, 07:12 PM

I don't understand how this is any different. I mean, you are running up to zonozz and popping stuff, why not pop stuff as he is going through his speech. There is a DBM timer that tells you when combat starts, use that as a gauge. Basically, pretend you are running up to him but just don't press W :P

**Jinto** · 2012-02-10, 07:28 PM

I played enh for the past 2 weeks and for Ultraxion I just watched timers, pre-pot, Stormstrike then redrop Searing and do the normal priority. I was going to try pre-pot + wolves right before Ultraxion is active so that the wolves can benefit from the Bloodlust (typically I don't get through the priority to wolves before BL is cast) but decided to just go back to elemental since my enh gear is well behind the curve (I typically do like 38k, about same ilv as you though your gear is a tiny bit better). DS is rather boring if you can't parse nowadays.

**zorca** · 2012-02-10, 07:35 PM

@Firminator. I have eng because of the Hand tinketer. It gives me agility every 1 min. Which = to BS,LW,JC.

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What would be the ideal opener? Pre-Pot, SS, Totems down (With Earth ele). Wolfs with Agility trinket macrod, then LL ect...??

**ergonomic** · 2012-02-10, 07:46 PM

I suspect that you want to start 2 globals before pull with pot/trink/gloves + 1) ele/searing + 2) wolves.

**Maginv** · 2012-02-10, 07:46 PM

Pre-pot, agi trinket, wolves, SS, LL, Totems.

By the time your totems are down and you are using BL at the start, you should have MW4 or MW5.

**Radux** · 2012-02-10, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by zorca

[/COLOR]What would be the ideal opener? Pre-Pot, SS, Totems down (With Earth ele). Wolfs with Agility trinket macrod, then LL ect...??

Assuming you don't need your totems to cover a buff.... kinda.

Do not pop wolves before your LL.
Just follow the priority as it reads. If the boss is coming to you, follow the priority as it's listed.

Only time you would really use UE+FS or Wolves before SS or LL is because you're running toward the boss.

**Gray_Matter** · 2012-02-10, 08:02 PM

I would drop totems before the pull for the buffs and then again after SS.

**Jinto** · 2012-02-10, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by Radux

Assuming you don't need your totems to cover a buff.... kinda.

Do not pop wolves before your LL.
Just follow the priority as it reads. If the boss is coming to you, follow the priority as it's listed.

Only time you would really use UE+FS or Wolves before SS or LL is because you're running toward the boss.

It is not that simple unless you are sure the damage lost of delaying LL by a GCD is greater than the damage gain of having BL for your wolves. While I am not 100% certain my understanding of Spirit Wolf mechanics is that it must be dropped prior to the Bloodlust for it to gain the buff (fairly easy to verify). On H Ultraxion if you go through the typical priority it will take around 6 GCD (SS, Totems, LL, Unleash, FS, probably a MW5 by then) for you to even get to wolves and guilds typically lust right away with healers phasing out to benefit from trinket procs.

**Radux** · 2012-02-10, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by Jinto

On H Ultraxion if you go through the typical priority it will take around 6 GCD (SS, Totems, LL, Unleash, FS, probably a MW5 by then) for you to even get to wolves and guilds typically lust right away with healers phasing out to benefit from trinket procs.

Fair enough. I know the Enh in my guild just pops Wolves the 1 sec before combat starts. Given, that means he has 1 GCD less time with a pre-pot, but I'm not going to pretend to know the math required to see if that's optimal or not.

I just know it allows him to not have to really deviate from normal priority.

**SkillOverKill** · 2012-02-10, 10:33 PM

I'm not a shaman main (but I have an Enh alt), but there are a few ways to go about this. The first is, work backwards on what can be done prior to the fight - so you can elemental, wolves, and drop totems - what should be the priority on these? Totems first, then elemental, then potion/wolves in the gcd before the fight.

For which attacks are your highest priority, I would recommend simcrafting yourself and checking the DPET values for your attacks, but I'm guessing its something like Unleash Elements, Stormstrike, Flame Shock, etc

**Jinto** · 2012-02-10, 10:46 PM

Not refreshing Searing Totem after you enter combat = crap dps on Ultraxion.

**Skillpadde** · 2012-02-11, 01:47 AM

On Ultraxion, I pot at about 2 seconds before pull, Ghost Wolves at 1 second, then on the pull I Stormstrike then drop all totems. This ensures that Searing Totem hits him ASAP, while meaning I have Wolves up with Heroism (as we pop it on the pull) for maximum DPS early on, as I genereally do not soak until the 3rd/4th hour.

**greez** · 2012-02-11, 01:36 PM

+3s -> 1s -> pull
Totems -> Wolves followed by Resto 4pc, switch gear + prepot -> SS, LL, redrop totems, LB, UE+FS and so on.
Something like that, timing might be off, but in general it fits into one GCD iirc.

**Gray_Matter** · 2012-02-11, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by greez

+3s -> 1s -> pull
Totems -> Wolves followed by Resto 4pc, switch gear + prepot -> SS, LL, redrop totems, LB, UE+FS and so on.
Something like that, timing might be off, but in general it fits into one GCD iirc.

I like the resto 4pc idea. Would be a bit painful if you mistimed though and got stuck with the wrong gear for the fight

**Entizer** · 2012-02-11, 04:00 PM

I do the following on Ultraxion:

Target him when able to (before the fight starts)
Pre-pot before the combat starts timer is up
Pull out wolves and such
Turn on auto attack once combat starts, which makes me in combat with him
Redrop totems (or just Searing, since others should already be down)
Then normal priority after that.

This makes Searing attack right away, possibly starts stacking/proccing any trinkets for the next following attacks (usually SS and LL, the normal priority).

**greez** · 2012-02-11, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by Gray_Matter

I like the resto 4pc idea. Would be a bit painful if you mistimed though and got stuck with the wrong gear for the fight

Which is why I only do that if Im sure there will be a proper countdown before the pull. I use it for every boss except Spine though. Only failed me if someone ninja-pulled by accident.

**Agalor** · 2012-02-11, 08:44 PM

I prepot at 2 sec, wolves at 1, totems at beginning of fight, and I am the one that pops BL right after I get my first hit in. If you are going through your rotation and you can't get wolves out right away, why not be the one that pops BL?
Also, for the more veteran enhance out there, am I doing it right?

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