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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by greez View Post
    Which is why I only do that if Im sure there will be a proper countdown before the pull. I use it for every boss except Spine though. Only failed me if someone ninja-pulled by accident.
    Do you use a macro for the gear swap?

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Matter View Post
    Do you use a macro for the gear swap?
    /cast Spiritwalker's Grace
    /equipset PvE Enhancement

    I have another gear set with just 4 resto pieces swapped in macro'ed to another button.

  3. #23
    watch the dbm timer, prepot at 2, wolves at 1, lust, stormstrike, totems, carry on, since i'm the lust b*tch in my guild, at least on this fight

  4. #24
    On Ultraxion, I pot at about 2 seconds before pull, Ghost Wolves at 1 second, then on the pull I Stormstrike then drop all totems. This ensures that Searing Totem hits him ASAP
    Imo any global used to drop totems while other abilities are off CD during the first "rotation" results in a dps loss. There's a post about it somewhere, i just need to find it.

    Edit: Found it!
    A good tip I discovered in our attempts was that for the initial pull it seemed best to drop totems down before the pull as usual and as we all know Searing isn't as cooperative as we'd like and you sometimes need to reapply it after the actual pull, it was actually best to go through my first regular rotation without Searing attacking the boss for the first ~6 seconds. This resulted in an overall gain of about 6-7k of peak pull DPS.
    Source: http://elitistjerks.com/f79/t127825-...hints_tips/p2/
    Last edited by Chronnos; 2012-02-13 at 08:47 AM.

  5. #25
    Might as well drop magma totem before the pull instead of searing (which I do, but I drop searing 2-3 GCDs into the fight depending on maelstrom procs).

  6. #26
    How I did it:

    Before pull:
    Drop totems(can be a set with magma totem if u attack has soon as possible), 4p resto set, wolves, pre-pot.
    I start with SS and LL then drop totems (u can include Earth elemental here) again for searing to start working, since it wont start by itself on ultraxion.
    Tried several times dropping totems before SS or LL but it results in far less dps.
    The trick to doing good dps on this fight is watching the timer and try to have low downtime and not failing on priority list (on this and all the bosses, yeah).

  7. #27
    The idea is to have wolves up before using SWG so they can benefit from haste.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by greez View Post
    /cast Spiritwalker's Grace
    /equipset PvE Enhancement

    I have another gear set with just 4 resto pieces swapped in macro'ed to another button.
    Could you do something like this?

    /equipset PvE Resto
    /cast Spiritwalker's Grace
    /equipset PvE Enhancement
    /use Potion of the Tol'vir

    As a prepot?

    Would then also macro the other potion to my hero.

    To answer my own question - No, this doesn't work. You can only equip one set in a macro so I ended up doing this as my pre-pot:

    #showtooltip Potion of the Tol'vir
    /console Sound_EnableSFX 0
    /cast Spiritwalker's Grace
    /equipset Enhancement
    /use Potion of the Tol'vir
    /script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()
    /console Sound_EnableSFX 1

    I then have another macro to prepare for the pre-pot that just equips the resto 4pc.
    Last edited by Gray_Matter; 2012-02-13 at 09:53 PM.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Agalor View Post
    I prepot at 2 sec, wolves at 1, totems at beginning of fight, and I am the one that pops BL right after I get my first hit in. If you are going through your rotation and you can't get wolves out right away, why not be the one that pops BL?
    Also, for the more veteran enhance out there, am I doing it right?
    Sorry, but I disagree with your start here. Why would you not drop totems a 3 seconds, and waste a GCD right after the fight starts? Even if you are the one popping hero, it should be Totems, then wolves, then prepot... Fight starts, then hero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shammification View Post
    Sorry, but I disagree with your start here. Why would you not drop totems a 3 seconds, and waste a GCD right after the fight starts? Even if you are the one popping hero, it should be Totems, then wolves, then prepot... Fight starts, then hero.
    Because Searing Totem won't fire. You need to drop it when you're either in combat or if the target has FS/SS on it. Preferably [enter combat] > FS/SS > Searing -- but again it depends on the encounter and yada yada yada.

  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Matter View Post
    Could you do something like this?

    /equipset PvE Resto
    /cast Spiritwalker's Grace
    /equipset PvE Enhancement
    /use Potion of the Tol'vir

    As a prepot?

    Would then also macro the other potion to my hero.

    To answer my own question - No, this doesn't work. You can only equip one set in a macro so I ended up doing this as my pre-pot:

    #showtooltip Potion of the Tol'vir
    /console Sound_EnableSFX 0
    /cast Spiritwalker's Grace
    /equipset Enhancement
    /use Potion of the Tol'vir
    /script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()
    /console Sound_EnableSFX 1

    I then have another macro to prepare for the pre-pot that just equips the resto 4pc.
    If you don't want to use 2 seperate macros for it, something like this could work too:

    #showtooltip Potion of the Tol'vir
    /equipset [mod] Prepot
    /cast [nocombat,nomod] Spiritwalker's Grace
    /equipset [nocombat,nomod] Enhance
    /use [nomod] Potion of the Tol'vir

    This will let you equip your prepot gear by holding down a modifier, then cast SWG and equip proper set before combat, as well as activate pot when no modifier is held down.

    Allows the button to function 3 purposes for the price of 1: Equip pre-pot set, the actual pre-pot, and for using potion mid-fight. All without error messages, too.

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by ransalad View Post
    If you don't want to use 2 seperate macros for it, something like this could work too:

    #showtooltip Potion of the Tol'vir
    /equipset [mod] Prepot
    /cast [nocombat,nomod] Spiritwalker's Grace
    /equipset [nocombat,nomod] Enhance
    /use [nomod] Potion of the Tol'vir

    This will let you equip your prepot gear by holding down a modifier, then cast SWG and equip proper set before combat, as well as activate pot when no modifier is held down.

    Allows the button to function 3 purposes for the price of 1: Equip pre-pot set, the actual pre-pot, and for using potion mid-fight. All without error messages, too.
    Thanks, thats just what I needed. Never thought to add the nocombat option or having both options in the same macro. Now if I can just convince pugs to do a countdown everytime. I have this sinking feeling that I am going to get caught out by some over eager tank . I have already had a tank pull on 3 seconds to go before.

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    Drop Totems pre-combat + Pre-pot
    SS
    FS
    Re-drop ST because it's retarded
    LL
    [Should have 10 stack WoU + All cooldowns]
    Pop Wolves

    More or less run standard priority from there, but include MSW2 : LB and Lava Burst under BL / Hero effects.

  14. #34
    Why the hell would you use Earth Elemental?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kansuke View Post
    Why the hell would you use Earth Elemental?
    It doesn't taunt the boss or anything.

    Assuming you can cover buffs from other sources than a totem (quite likely), it's essentially free dps. Not like any other earth totem can contribute to dps.

  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Radux View Post
    It doesn't taunt the boss or anything.

    Assuming you can cover buffs from other sources than a totem (quite likely), it's essentially free dps. Not like any other earth totem can contribute to dps.
    Makes sense. I'm way too used to playing solo/LFR.

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Defines View Post
    Drop Totems pre-combat + Pre-pot
    SS
    FS
    Re-drop ST because it's retarded
    LL
    [Should have 10 stack WoU + All cooldowns]
    Pop Wolves

    More or less run standard priority from there, but include MSW2 : LB and Lava Burst under BL / Hero effects.
    Id put LL over FS.
    And Im pretty sure t13 2pc makes LvB obsolete for enhancement, even with only one MW stack. Unless youre desperate to get ED to proc, but I cant recall any troubles with it under BL/Hero, too many LBs flying around.

    Nevermind that bit about wolves and haste, no idea why I was thinking the other way round, guess its early morning posts talking.
    Last edited by greez; 2012-02-15 at 02:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greez View Post
    Id put LL over FS.
    And Im pretty sure t13 2pc makes LvB obsolete for enhancement, even with only one MW stack. Unless youre desperate to get ED to proc, but I cant recall any troubles with it under BL/Hero, too many LBs flying around.

    Nevermind that bit about wolves and haste, no idea why I was thinking the other way round, guess its early morning posts talking.
    Normally I would too, but I always had so much bull shit during Heroic Rag, and Heroic Ultraxion (Ages ago) where Searing literally would not target it if I didnt' have SS and FS debuffs up. In regards to Lava Burst, It only happens very rarely [Once or Twice a fight] where I'll have no MSW, and everything else on cooldown. Idk if it's still a decent / good idea to do that or whatever considering the No'Kaled proc and shit, but I can't be fucked doing the math. :\

  19. #39
    For fights light Ultraxion where you get to open up right on the boss I've been experimenting a bit myself. What I've been doing is essentially what most people here have said. Totems down>Pre-pot+wolves>[pull]SS>Searing>LL>(MW_5)>FS. I also drop Earth Elemental sometime at the beginning when I get a free global. He seems to behave worse than Searing if you drop before combat and will just stand there. Searing seems to be happy enough to begin attacking with just SS up. As far as LvB goes, I believe the main concern is that it resets swing timers whereas a LB w/ 1-4 Maelstrom charges only pauses it. The only times I ever cast it is when I can't be in melee range for a few seconds.
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  20. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Radux View Post
    It doesn't taunt the boss or anything.

    Assuming you can cover buffs from other sources than a totem (quite likely), it's essentially free dps. Not like any other earth totem can contribute to dps.
    Not just contribute to DPS, it can also contribute to group survival depending on the situation. Madness HC phase 2? These rock buddies of ours do a mighty fine job taunting the big adds around. It's unfortunate that they don't contribute in any meaningful manner in most other situations though. I'd kill for them to double as a raid survival CD in all situations, rather than the weird situations where their taunts actually works on something.

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