Holy shit and lfr

[cronight]

Hello,

atm i am so confused bcs i dont know wanna be happy or mad or whatever.The point is that my alt Hunter have better gear than my main Rogue.I know many of you will tell this is lfr and items are shit, but hey even if this is lfr I put effort (dont slack, dont go afk on trash, dont ninja items) and doin all the best from me to down boss and get loot for others and for me if something drop what I need and if I win roll ofc. For my alt hunter I get all 5 pcs of tier, all 3 trinkets with agi stuff, polearm, bow, belt, bracer and bis gloves (better than tier gloves). On other hands my Rogue only get 3 pcs of tier, bis shoulder and belt. Dont wanna tell you how hard struggle to get 4pc of tier for set bonus ( I mean in every single raid atleast 10 or more ppls press need for vanq tokken ). Ofc for all others items (rings and trinkets) also must roll against 4 classes. Ofc i dont wanna be rude or thankless bcs I win and get a lots items in lfr for my toons (specially my Hunter), but i am so frustrating bcs my alt have better lucky than my main and first WoW love rogue. So what is yours exp does your alt also have more lucky than main and does that bother you or you dont even care???

P.S. sry for my bad english since this is not my nature language and I am too old to go to scholl and learn better

[Blutelf]

Happens. Usually I don't really care what my alts are wearing though, no matter if it's better or worse. They're just alts for a reason -- I like playing my main more.

[Mystile]

Loot is random, hence the term RNG (Random Number Generator). Sucks about your bad luck, but there isn't anything anyone can help you with on this situation.

[Izin]

What makes the rogue your main if you don't even raid (by this I mean normal/heroic raids) or do pvp on it? :S

[cronight]

What makes the rogue your main if you don't even raid (by this I mean normal/heroic raids) or do pvp on it? :S

since i have a lot obligations in rl I really dont have much time to raiding normal and heroic mode, and yes I was been hard core raider with rogue till cata, and playin only with my rogue before I made hunter (before 4months)

[KaziOfTheSkies]

Heh, with my 8 85s I gave up on having a "Main" long ago. I still have my paladin that I had as main during my raiding days, and its one of my chars whos had a lot of luck in lfr but... Just play what you like the most! + a "main" Id say is the char you like best, not the best geared.

[Izin]

since i have a lot obligations in rl I really dont have much time to raiding normal and heroic mode, and yes I was been hard core raider with rogue till cata, and playin only with my rogue before I made hunter (before 4months)

You can clear full 8/8 normal in 1-2 hours and for a slightly more serious guild who wanna do HC's throw in a few more hours a week, it really isn't much time needed at all.

[Noobadin]

Nope my alt's all have shitty gear compared to my main. I tend to run LFR with friends/guildies and just roll on loot for them. Never cared much for gearing out my alts. The only one I do gear out is for pvp so I don't need to worry about loot.

[Civil]

Heh, with my 8 85s I gave up on having a "Main" long ago. I still have my paladin that I had as main during my raiding days, and its one of my chars whos had a lot of luck in lfr but... Just play what you like the most! + a "main" Id say is the char you like best, not the best geared.

Hehe, same. 8 85's and haven't really had a "main" since I stopped hard core raiding during Sunwell. My alts or lesser played toons seem to have better luck in LFR which I find quite amusing. My Hunter finally got his 2p, but others are already working on their offspec set.

[makapipi]

Yeah I had the same the first weeks of LFR. I was less lucky on my main priest, than on my alt hunter. As I also do normal raids, I got fast better gear for my main within a month.

I have two other alts, which I occasionally use for LFR, but I don't really care too much for the gear for the alts. It's fine if I get some new pieces, if not, it's ok too. You need gear to do top lvl content. As I don't raid with my alts, even 4.2 gear would be fine for those.

Just wanna say, as long as you don't raid, don't worry about missing out on gear in LFR. You don't need it for non-raiding stuff.

[Llunai]

Don't be upset that your alt is getting better gear than your main. Be happy that you're getting good drops in LFR. Lots of people run LFR week after week but never get a damn thing.

Is the glass half full or half empty?

[solinari6]

Just wanna say, as long as you don't raid, don't worry about missing out on gear in LFR. You don't need it for non-raiding stuff.

Well, except for those of us who mainly want to get 5 piece LFR tier pieces just for transmogging purposes

[rielthaskildogg]

I agree with what you say, as I experience the same frustrations. When it comes to gearing and raiding, I don't really have a main, per say, as I love my DK and my Pally pretty much equally, but I find it easier to get pieces on my Pally, at least a little bit anyways. The advantage is that the Pally token is pretty much between Pally's and Priests, as Locks are almost non-existant in LFR these days. Dk's and Rogues have to roll against mages and druids, making for 4 very popular classes fighting over one single token. I've seen runs with 14 or 15 reps from this class in the random group. Unless WoW can make Locks more popular, they need to swap either rogues or mages for Locks in the token system to even it out again. However, I do get pieces on my DK, despite having to plan and work hard for them. Here's a few things that can help.

One, use the raid browser to check the composition of your random group before you ever consider running with them. If your group has 10 or more reps for your class token, just leave group and try again, or get used to killing the first boss before leaving to avoid a half hour penalty. I tend to look for groups with 7 or 8 reps for my class token - it takes a while, but its worth it, as it greatly increases your chances of winning a token if it drops. I just don't waste my week running with 10 or more - the odds are too stacked against you. Secondly, run late in the week (i.e. Sunday, Monday, the last 2 days before reset). At least on the early bosses, some of the players will be killing them again in order to get to the later bosses, so you have a chance for a few of them to auto-pass on the tokens.

The token structure is appearing more and more flawed, as Warlocks become fewer and fewer, but if you plan well and ensure you have an optimal group before killing bosses, you can at least greatly increase your chances each week, and make the most of your lfr runs.

---------- Post added 2012-02-11 at 12:20 PM ----------

Note: this all chances when MOP launches, as the token structure will have to be modified to accomodate Monks anyways. If there was any chance that the token structure could stay the same come MOP, I would be screeming at Blizzard to fix this problem a lot more, but its less than 6 months from the launch of MOP anyways, so take comfort - changes are a comin!!

[KaziOfTheSkies]

I agree with what you say, as I experience the same frustrations. When it comes to gearing and raiding, I don't really have a main, per say, as I love my DK and my Pally pretty much equally, but I find it easier to get pieces on my Pally, at least a little bit anyways. The advantage is that the Pally token is pretty much between Pally's and Priests, as Locks are almost non-existant in LFR these days. Dk's and Rogues have to roll against mages and druids, making for 4 very popular classes fighting over one single token. I've seen runs with 14 or 15 reps from this class in the random group. Unless WoW can make Locks more popular, they need to swap either rogues or mages for Locks in the token system to even it out again. However, I do get pieces on my DK, despite having to plan and work hard for them.

Funny you'd say that... Ive been in lfr runs where the Vanc token...wait for it....soon....Got greeded out Rng is Rng I guess hehe.
Personally Ive had a lot of luck on tiers for some reason, only 1 of my 8 85s is sitting without at least 2p t13 now. With 3 chars in 4p, my pally even in 4/5 prot+ret and my shaman on 4/5r + 3/5ele, as well as 3 chars on 3/5 + lots of trinkets I think I can consider myself luckier than most. (Guthlak on pala+hshield, staff+hmace on shaman (no bloody shield yet tho) and both DSlfr daggers on rogue+off hand on priest, I can keep going all day haha ). With so many chars Ive found it hard to care much for the gear tho, dunno if thats what makes me get so much?


...Wonder if I can make a busness in trade with my luck? "Selling my luck in lfr!" hahaha

[k8e]

You can clear full 8/8 normal in 1-2 hours and for a slightly more serious guild who wanna do HC's throw in a few more hours a week, it really isn't much time needed at all.

being available for a raiding schedule isn't always possible or desirable, even if it's a casual schedule.

[Calgus-CC]

My alt spriest had 4 piece before my main. And I raid 6/8h 25man. My holy pally had 4 piece after 2 weeks. My druid hasn't won a single piece of tir from lfr in 8 weeks. Some toons have worse luck than others. That's the way of it. Pick the class you most enjoy and forget about ur virtual gear. Skilled players will always get gear from somewhere. Case in point. If I win something and its not that big an upgrade in lfr, I'll usually give it to the highest dps that needs it.

Also.... Prot tokens are pretty easy to get due to the lack of people rolling on them in most lfrs...

[kilometer18]

I don't understand why people have a sense of entitlement to loot in LFR. It's an alternative to a "normal" raiding schedule, it's not a guarantee of infinite free loot. If you want to spend more time and participate in a guild, you can get a better chance of getting some gear. If your main is so important to you, it seems like even more reason to join a guild run. Normal mode drops better gear anyway, and the time commitment isn't necessarily that much.

[PBitt]

Sounds like you got pretty damn lucky on your hunter more than anything else. Honestly, the only things that are pretty hard to get out of LFR are trinkets, shields, and DW weapons. Tier drops so much that, in about 4 or 5 weeks at the most, you should at the very least have 4 pieces. And everyone and their grandma needs on trinkets, they are very much a pain in the ass to win.

Nonetheless, I actually find rogue probably the easiest to gear in LFR...I brought my own rogue through for the first time this week, and I won 4 pieces, 2 of them because they were rogue only and I had little or no competition, there aren't a lot of rogues in LFR, and we only compete with druids for a good chunk of our gear...and if there are few druids in the raid as well, it's almost a free pass on any leather gear that may drop, if you're lucky.

In the end, though, LFR is pretty much free gear, so, despite some items being rather nice, I'm not that butt-hurt when I lose be it alt or main, it's not like anyone worked hard for it, and I really suggest everyone else to do the same. Besides, if you don't raid the real DS, I don't see the problem in gearing up slowly, to me when you are farming it adds some excitement as to if your piece is going to drop and if you are going to win it...we're going to have t13 around for many more months to come, so you're gonna get bored pretty quickly me thinks if you win every last piece of loot you want in one or two clears and then have nothing else to gain from running it unless you do another difficulty.

[Agallochh]

since i have a lot obligations in rl I really dont have much time to raiding normal and heroic mode, and yes I was been hard core raider with rogue till cata, and playin only with my rogue before I made hunter (before 4months)

I clear DS normal every week. We raid Tue/Thur 7:30-11. We started some HM (Morchoklol). Next week we will make sure HMorchok is on farm (only took us 4 attempts to down anyway, so it should be) and possibly start either Yor'Sahj or Ultrax heroic.

Outside of raid nights I hardly play.

[Ryme]

Try raiding with a guild? There's one for everyone these days.