Alysrazor 10N solo

[goki]

lol shibal, nice job


edit: IU <3

[enq]

That only happened about 50% of the time with me, the crap down below doesn't always start attacking. My entire raid died on a meteor phase on heroic because they listened to someone else instead of me, I flew back up and was able to get 25 stacks and get the job done solo.

Ay well, it's not like I've done it much so 50% might be more accurate. For me it's more like two out of three times... and that's not simplified, so yeah not much of a sample size.

Hi5 for saving the day, I've done the same once. Could have been twice if I had the foresight to kill a meteor.

[Sephrie]

would that be possible to make such a huge ignite in normal raid conditions? (~40fps, 50-100ms) doing fl hc tonight and would love to try it out (wanna see boss dropping tens of millions in a matter of seconds after I pop combust :P)

[Franksredhot]

would that be possible to make such a huge ignite in normal raid conditions?

I don't see why not, as long as you can stay in range of her and continue to scorch spam.

[Aantu]

would that be possible to make such a huge ignite in normal raid conditions? (~40fps, 50-100ms) doing fl hc tonight and would love to try it out (wanna see boss dropping tens of millions in a matter of seconds after I pop combust :P)

I doubt it. I tried this several times a while ago, and I could not get my ignite to go above 100k. It would roll fine at the beginning, but due to (I assume) latency, the crits and ticks would start to desync after about 12 seconds. I did this with 40 ms as well, so I would imagine you need something like less than 10 ms to get this to work. It would be neat if it did, though, I think it worked out to something like a 2 million tick combustion if you successfully did it on heroic mode from the 25th ring to the end of burnout (also keep in mind it's better to do scorch -> pyro -> scorch -> pyro, not just scorch spam)

[Rooyhorn]

nicely done

[DeathDefier]

Very awesome video. I knew ignite stacking was OP with pyroblasts on the ground back when it was relevant content, but never thought it would be done like this. I always love little mage trick videos like this, they make me happy inside.

[ciaro]

I don't see why not, as long as you can stay in range of her and continue to scorch spam.

he only scorches 'cause he doesn't get any ground time at all, so the usual pyro-spam is better

[Maelstrom51]

(also keep in mind it's better to do scorch -> pyro -> scorch -> pyro, not just scorch spam)

Pyro has flight time, so there's a good chance it'll let ignite tick.

[enq]

For the n:th time, youcannotdelayigniteticks. A better answer would be that Pyroblast might cause a munch. Also if it procs a stack of 2T13 it'll mess up his Scorch intervals, unless the /cancelaura in a macro actually gets done before the cast begins.

ciaro - that doesn't make any sense, we all let the Ignite drop off before we begin the ground nuke, so what we do in air and what we do during her stun is separate. In fact if he never ever loses range on her, he could roll that Ignite all the way into Burnout.

[ciaro]

ciaro - that doesn't make any sense, we all let the Ignite drop off before we begin the ground nuke, so what we do in air and what we do during her stun is separate. In fact if he never ever loses range on her, he could roll that Ignite all the way into Burnout.

my point is that if you're gonna ignite fall off before burnout, why would you scorch in the air phase instead of pyroblasting?
I doubt keeping the ignite through the tornado phase into burnout would increase your final combustion amount, even if it's a big one.

[enq]

And my point is that whether you do a ground phase or not doesn't affect how you do the air phase. If you're gonna let the Ignite drop off anyway, what does the air phase matter for the ground phase? You're gonna want to do max DPS in air is all, and if Scorch spam with Alysra's Razor isn't the way to do it then he did it wrong in this video, regardless of getting to do ground phase or not.

Let me tell you the reason you let Ignite drop off prior to the stun. You might not agree this is the reason (the list of Alysrazor myths keeps growing), but this is why it gives good results. If you land a crit right before an Ignite tick, you'll roll the Ignite. In the logs you will see crit - Ignite ticks - Ignite gets refreshed. That tick is free damage that isn't removed from the Ignite bank. If you let your Ignite drop off before you begin the ground phase nuke, you can be certain to land your spells at the right time, since your first Pyroblast will cause the Ignite again and then every two Pyroblasts thereafter will land right before the Ignite ticks.

This is how he rolls it with Scorch in the air, where Pyroblast with its travel time won't do since with varying distance to the boss he can't be certain to land them with exactly 1 second intervals. This is also why he says to cancel his 2T13 buff before he starts scorching, to not mess up the intervals by suddenly losing 500 haste.

Therefore, even though this isn't part of our current disagreement, it would make sense to keep scorching through tornadoes and stun if you can manage to never lose range on her. That way, you could roll that Ignite even through the stun.

I repeat, the only reason you let Ignite drop off is to get one that is easier to roll, if you could with certainty roll the one you already have, you would be stupid to let it drop off. But if you manage to Scorch her incessantly from Alysra's Razor until Burnout, your Ignite will surpass anything you can accomplish by first killing it and then spamming Pyroblasts.

[enq]

If you run the numbers, this guy is a fucking genius. What does his name translate as?

[Cellion]

So why isn't he getting blasted to death by the adds again?

[enq]

'cause Blizzard suck =)

He isn't doing anything special to make them not shoot him.

[Glaid]

Im fucking speechless, this is a matter of time before front page of mmo champ. FUck 10dk solo firelands this is like x10 more awesome. not hard i cant say but WTF ;D COOOL

[Makarena]

I hope it won't get fixed untill I get my mount.
EDIT: apparently it was coz there's no way you can get that high ignite with the current (nerfed slightly) spawn rate of rings. Sad, sad ...

[itzDeceiver]

any 1 able to confirm wether this can be not or not still?

[ekardnah]

any 1 able to confirm wether this can be not or not still?

Esarael confirmed it possible and wrote a very nice guide on it. See uploader's post of linked video.

[Makarena]

This video is outdated. You will never get as many rings as this guy did right now.