[Megathread] Tera Online - Now Free-to-Play

[Sesshou]

I don't see how you could compare it to WoW at all (combat wise). Everything in Tera is active, half or more of the stuff in WoW is passive (my main in WoW is a rogue, I'd guess 80% or more of my damage is passive so it isn't just tanking). Tanking in WoW is essentially praying for RNG and that your healer heals you (longer cd's and threat aside). Your living through those swings has almost nothing to do with you. Now you do need to hit your cd's in wow, but hey, those are all passive once activated. Threat in WoW? Well, currently its almost passive as you can hold it without even trying. Threat in Tera doesn't last forever (theres a couple theories on the specifics) so you can't just build up threat and then take it easy, and good dps will pull threat with absolutely no warning so you have to constantly be ready to yank it back. The only time in WoW some one can really pull threat is in the first 10ish seconds and after a minute or more there is pretty much no way in hell any dps will ever pull it off you. Tanking in Tera is about actively mitigating the damage and not praying that rng allows you to dodge/parry/block enough. Even WoW's potentially new turn to things like Death Strike is just something you do after you took the damage, it still is passively sitting there and taking it.

Dps in WoW is pretty much just using a rotation and there is hardly anything you ever need to worry about other than what DBM/DXE will give you a timer for. Tera you do have a optimal rotation but you need to consider things like getting stuck in an animation (which would require you to burn your dodge to get out of) and you have to actively watch the boss.

As far as end game raiding in WoW compared to end game 5 mans in Tera, one of the other important differences is that when I play Tera I feel like I'm playing the game itself. When I raid in WoW (and I still am raiding with my guild in WoW 1 night a week to farm hm DS) I feel like I'm playing bar minigames just staring at my cooldown bar, energy bar, boss timer bars, grid if I'm healing and honestly hardly have to look at the boss or my own character that much (except when DBM timers tell me to, which could be argued is a decent amount). In Tera, you have to constantly be looking at your char and the boss or you risk him jumping over and doing some move that will trash you (or turning around and doing it if you are melee).

[Ayreon]

...and yet despite all this praise the game is dying

I wonder why, maybe because it's really....not that good as a whole?

[Poodles]

...and yet despite all this praise the game is dying

I wonder why, maybe because it's really....not that good as a whole?

Honestly I think it has more to do with the subscription based model than anything else. All of the subscription based games are declining right now because the market is moving to free to play and/or microtransactions.

I can tell you right now I'd be playing Tera if I didn't have to pay for it monthly. I've quit all my monthly sub games because it's just not worth it in this day and age. Hell, take a glance at places like mmohut and look at how many free to play games are out there...

[Kalyyn]

...and yet despite all this praise the game is dying

I wonder why, maybe because it's really....not that good as a whole?

Why do you believe that the game is dying? Seems like it's holding up alright to me.

[Ayreon]

Why do you believe that the game is dying? Seems like it's holding up alright to me.

going down to 4 server + f2p up to lvl 50 in korea

[Totori]

going down to 4 server + f2p up to lvl 50 in korea

Subscription per hour = f2p?
I don't get where the F2P comes from.

I see 11 servers here. I don't know where the 4 is, but sure why not.

[Digglett]

going down to 4 server + f2p up to lvl 50 in korea

F2P doesn't mean a game is dead, FYI. F2P has done wonders for other companies doing the same thing.

[Totori]

F2P doesn't mean a game is dead, FYI. F2P has done wonders for other companies doing the same thing.

Great examples. DCUO. EQ1 / 2. GW 1 (I'd assume 2 would be the same), etc etc.

[Kalyyn]

going down to 4 server + f2p up to lvl 50 in korea

That does not pertain slightly to the game's existence in America.

[Lane]

...and yet despite all this praise the game is dying

I wonder why, maybe because it's really....not that good as a whole?

Honestly, the only thing Tera really has going for it (IMO) is the combat and arguably the aesthetics, the latter of which is a matter of personal taste. Everything else is mediocre to terrible. The questing is mediocre. End game, enchanting, crafting, the vanarchy system, etc. is all terrible.

Honestly I think it has more to do with the subscription based model than anything else. All of the subscription based games are declining right now because the market is moving to free to play and/or microtransactions.

I think it has more to do with the fact that $15/mo. doesn't buy you squat anymore. Ask anyone, they'll tell you your $15/mo. doesn't "entitle" you to anything but access to any given MMO's servers. Even games that have subscriptions + "premium" stores do not guarantee you content, despite how much people like to delude themselves into believing that the more money a company makes the more content will be distributed.

I was watching an interview with one of Rift's devs where he said, "Rift is a subscription based MMO. You give us money, we give you content, that's how it works." I was like, OMG, can you please tell every other MMO on the market that? Because apparently they didn't get that memo.

So, I think it's more to do with people being endlessly forced to pay money for things and not seeing much return on their investment. I'm at the point where I don't blame anyone for wanting F2P vs. P2P because the majority of the MMOs on the market with a subscription are price gouging. EME/Tera is one of the worst about it too.

[Ayreon]

Subscription per hour = f2p?
I don't get where the F2P comes from.

I see 11 servers here. I don't know where the 4 is, but sure why not.

http://translate.google.com/translat...652758&act=url

google translated for your convenience
the f2p server will be up for a month and is capped at lvl 50 so it's preliminary testing for now

F2P doesn't mean a game is dead, FYI. F2P has done wonders for other companies doing the same thing.

yes, that is true
however, if a mmo starts as a p2p, having to convert to f2p due to lack of paying customers means the game failed (an exception here could be old mmos like everquest)

[Niku]

...and yet despite all this praise the game is dying

I wonder why, maybe because it's really....not that good as a whole?

I played for a month, then quit. I can only speak for myself, but it was because it had a subscription fee to keep playing. Having payed for WoW for, give or take, 7 years, I feel I've been an idiot enough for a lifetime.

[zito]

yes, that is true
however, if a mmo starts as a p2p, having to convert to f2p due to lack of paying customers means the game failed (an exception here could be old mmos like everquest)

Or its used as a marketing thing, or a new game is in development an example would be aion and ncsofts new upcoming game blade and soul.

Anyway I miss warrior tanking, it was the most active for me imo. If this game goes B2P or F2P ill play.

[Gsara]

Im finished with monthly subs honestly. If Tera went BTP Id play it in a heartbeat over wow, rift, or swotor. Ive played all three at a high lvl (still do in wow) and honestly, the combat alone in Tera is hands down better than any of those games. I think the real issue is, that a subscription game just isnt going to do well. WoW is the only subscription game on the market that most of todays gamers will pay for because quit honestly, anyone can do ok in that game. Tera is not like that at all. While Tera is pretty easy to get started in, the max lvl game isnt as forgiving. Its not as easy to just be ok with carrying 4 or 5 scrubs in a raid, or being "meh whatever" about the shitty healer thats the GMs wife and will always have a slot over anyone else. (that's not meaning to sound as a put down against female gamers, so dont go there)

I think we are in the middle of pretty big changes in the gaming industry. The subscription model is on its last legs with the FTP and BTP models with cash shops being the direction that mmorpg/arpg gaming is taking, and I think thats a good thing honestly.

[Niku]

Im finished with monthly subs honestly. If Tera went BTP Id play it in a heartbeat over wow, rift, or swotor. Ive played all three at a high lvl (still do in wow) and honestly, the combat alone in Tera is hands down better than any of those games. I think the real issue is, that a subscription game just isnt going to do well. WoW is the only subscription game on the market that most of todays gamers will pay for because quit honestly, anyone can do ok in that game. Tera is not like that at all. While Tera is pretty easy to get started in, the max lvl game isnt as forgiving. Its not as easy to just be ok with carrying 4 or 5 scrubs in a raid, or being "meh whatever" about the shitty healer thats the GMs wife and will always have a slot over anyone else. (that's not meaning to sound as a put down against female gamers, so dont go there)

I think we are in the middle of pretty big changes in the gaming industry. The subscription model is on its last legs with the FTP and BTP models with cash shops being the direction that mmorpg/arpg gaming is taking, and I think thats a good thing honestly.

The GMs's wives/girlfriends were never that bad in the guilds I were in. :P

[Gsara]

The GMs's wives/girlfriends were never that bad in the guilds I were in. :P

Early vanilla I was but it was mainly an example. We have two woman in our guild now that I would put head to head with anyone playing wow.

[Blackemperor]

People who pay a subscription tend to be less likely to troll and care about their guild and server community more.
You make an investment and you care about it. Having millions of players does not always a good game make.

[Niku]

People who pay a subscription tend to be less likely to troll and care about their guild and server community more.
You make an investment and you care about it. Having millions of players does not always a good game make.

Wouldn't buying the game be enough for you to care about the investment?

[Darksoldierr]

Holy macarena, i just trying out the trial, and rofl. This game has the worst pvp system i ever seen or experienced. I dont mind being ganked, but when a 10+ level higher chars keeps killing you in the 2nd zone, and the others around your level placing themselves active just by a click anytime they want. And god, the avarage IQ people have on the chat is really makes me frickin dissapointed.

[kumduh]

And god, the avarage IQ people have on the chat is really makes me frickin dissapointed.

In every online game I have ever played, with 1 exception, this will always be true. Do not try and make this a Tera specific problem.

I just started the trial and found the Isle of Dawn zone to be enjoyable enough. Like the combat, dislike the aesthetics, Looking forward to being ganked repeatedly in Lumbertown