Nether Ward - Mechanic Question

[Wazax]

Hi

Just a quick question before i accidentally kill myself later and get flamed by my RL

When you use nether ward with the nether protection talent do you have to activate the buff by taking an attack or does it apply on the first attack you take

EG:

1) you take an attack - 10k absorb using nether ward - no nether protection applied to this attack

2) you take an attack - 10k absorb + 30% damage reduction on said spell school

Basically wondering if i can soak solo on Blackhorn HC without being killed, or similarly on Ultraxion if i can take the hours on hc?

Thanks in advance

[kushlol]

You have to take dmg from a spell school to gain the nether protection buff against that spell school. So if you can't survive the initial spell dmg from that school you won't gain nether protection against that school.

[Haxx0rcist]

iirc the damage reduction appears AFTER the absorb, so that you cannot solo soak on Blackhorn, HoT aren't solo soaked. atleast not by a warlock.

[zinnin]

Basically wondering if i can soak solo on Blackhorn HC without being killed, or similarly on Ultraxion if i can take the hours on hc?

Thanks in advance

You can't solo soak Blackhorn safely. However for Heroic Ultraxion there is a tick of the aoe right before he starts casting, so if you use fel armor before he starts casting the big aoe, you will have the 30% reduced damage for it. I stay out for the Hour of Twilight on our kills and between Soul Link, Nether Protection I have no problems living.

[Asherlol]

You can't solo soak Blackhorn safely. However for Heroic Ultraxion there is a tick of the aoe right before he starts casting, so if you use fel armor before he starts casting the big aoe, you will have the 30% reduced damage for it. I stay out for the Hour of Twilight on our kills and between Soul Link, Nether Protection I have no problems living.

I think you mean "use Nether Ward".

[zinnin]

I think you mean "use Nether Ward".

yea..I've been awake for a little too long.

[clavarnway]

1.) Use Nether Ward
2.) Take spell damage (even if it's reduced to 0 by NW), gain Nether Protetion from that school
3.) During the 12 seconds of Nether Protection, if you take same spell school damage again, you take 30% less due to NP
4.) Rinse/repeat for other schools until NW runs out

[Wazax]

Cheers chaps

thank you for the quick and thorough responses - this should hopefully stop me from dying like a fool!

[Rustjive]

take the hours on hc?

FWIW, taking anything other than 1 early HoT is a dicey proposition. With Nether Protection and Glyphed Soul Link, HoT hits for ~150k. If you're not shielded/topped up before and immediately after there's a pretty good chance of death.

[Penguin FTW]

I used to eat every hour with my group on 25.

[Rezhial]

As a lock, I eat every third Hour, with SL glyphed, NW, and DG normally from a paly, I take roughly 80k dmg, which is more than reliable. I would actually argue we are one of the best classes for eating Hour of Twilight.

[Rustjive]

As a lock, I eat every third Hour, with SL glyphed, NW, and DG normally from a paly, I take roughly 80k dmg, which is more than reliable. I would actually argue we are one of the best classes for eating Hour of Twilight.

I'd disagree with that. Classes that can take HoT without requiring outside cooldowns are 'best' - Shadow Priests, Fire Mages, Rogues, Unholy DKs, Hunters, etc. Locks, OTOH, require a little bit of babysitting. That's the difference from my point of view.