Should the rogue legendaries be banned in Arena and RBG?

[Eggers]

Just as the title says. I'm wondering if the general population thinks that the rogue legendaries should be banned in Arena and Rated Battle Grounds.

I don't personally think rogues are particularly overpowered as a class. I don't play one, but I don't find it impossible to kill them. I play ret and can usually handle them.

HOWEVER, I see the same thing happening that happened last expansion when DKs, Warriors and Pallys were running around with Shadowmourne with team names like <three shadowmournes lol> and steamrolling everyone.

This time it's gonna be <six legendary daggers lol>.

Put down your opinion on this poll and let's see how the community feels as a whole.

*** I'm aware there is another poll up that asks if rogues need to be toned down. This poll is asking a completely different question from that one as I am not asking about the class, but rather specific weapons.

[Amaroq]

The legendary dagger bonus ramps up extremely slowly. So no, they shouldn't be banned.

[Enhshamanlol]

Oh this thread again.

This thread pops up everytime a new legendary come out.

But no. they never banned an item from pvp and they should not start now.

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The legendary dagger bonus ramps up extremely slowly. So no, they shouldn't be banned.

The top end is what makes the dagger overpowered not the proc its self.

[roahn the warlock]

Oh this thread again.

This thread pops up everytime a new legendary come out.

But no. they never banned an item from pvp and they should not start now.

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The top end is what makes the dagger overpowered not the proc its self.

They should be banned, in a game that spews choosing you own path, and doing what you like, it's hardly fair to force a person who pays to pvp into pve to remain competitive.

[Tiskar]

If the legendaries were more common than they are/will be I think it'd be more of a problem than it is now. As is stands currently, I don't really see a problem with letting the rogues use what they earned.

Now if LFR was handing out legendaries.... /cringe.

[Amaroq]

The top end is what makes the dagger overpowered not the proc its self.

My statement referred to the proc and the proc alone. The rest of the dagger is fine. If the proc were quicker, then by all means... They should not be allowed in Rated PVP. Since it isn't. It's legit.

[Enhshamanlol]

They should be banned, in a game that spews choosing you own path, and doing what you like, it's hardly fair to force a person who pays to pvp into pve to remain competitive.

Lol It happens EVERY LEGENDARY. Same QQ a other tier/arena season.

[Yourcatdead]

Nope.

Legendaries are unbalanced in PvP. This is known, but if I was to say eliminating legendaries would make PvP fair, and skill based then that'd be a lie. If legendary daggers were the only thing making PvP extremely unbalanced, then I'd be all for it. I still hate any legendary in PvP, but it wouldn't matter. There will still be plenty of RMP teams.

[Kaleredar]

they never banned an item from pvp and they should not start now.

Engineering says "hi"

Anyway, they haven't gone about banning legendaries before. And I'm fairly certain rogues that set their minds to it will still remain competitive and viable in arenas even without the two daggers at their sides.

[endersblade]

I have a better idea: Get rid of Arena.

[Yourcatdead]

I have a better idea: Get rid of Arena.

At this point in WoW that would be retarded. Stop trollin.

[DiscoGhost]

the "get rid of legendaries in pvp" topic is beating a dead horse. most pvp'ers dont like it but blizz will always allow it.

[Mudor]

Both the daggers and cunning of the cruel should be banned from RBG/Arena.

We faced a NashwaN GoDs/Paragon RBG team on sunday with 3 boomkins and a legendary rogue. All 3 boomkins had HC cunnings (2 of them from Paragon and 1 from For the Horde)

The rogue literally killed my warlock in a garrote silence and I was shocked. The boomkins dotted our entire team along with UA from the lock for dispel protection and fire mage living bomb.

They had 5 fucking HC cunnings and legendary daggers, although most of them was terrible we claimed victory due to Lappè and some finnish named backpaddling boomkin both using retarded amount of PvE gear we managed to kill them with heroism up and 4 cap them in AB.

Seeing respectable teams like Nashwan Gods resorting to taking Paragon PvE nerds to their RBG just because of trinkets/daggers makes me sick. Our team has one. ONE fucking LFR cunning in our team and we are at 2.6k.

PVE gear ruin rated PvP, and I'm not gonna start talking about prenerf vial in 3v3.

/rant off

[Burritaco]

Both the daggers and cunning of the cruel should be banned from RBG/Arena.

We faced a NashwaN GoDs/Paragon RBG team on sunday with 3 boomkins and a legendary rogue. All 3 boomkins had HC cunnings (2 of them from Paragon and 1 from For the Horde)

The rogue literally killed my warlock in a garrote silence and I was shocked. The boomkins dotted our entire team along with UA from the lock for dispel protection and fire mage living bomb.

They had 5 fucking HC cunnings and legendary daggers, although most of them was terrible we claimed victory due to Lappè and some finnish named backpaddling boomkin both using retarded amount of PvE gear we managed to kill them with heroism up and 4 cap them in AB.

Seeing respectable teams like Nashwan Gods resorting to taking Paragon PvE nerds to their RBG just because of trinkets/daggers makes me sick. Our team has one. ONE fucking LFR cunning in our team and we are at 2.6k.

PVE gear ruin rated PvP, and I'm not gonna start talking about prenerf vial in 3v3.

/rant off

I don't understand what you are so angry about, you said you won, do you think they are worse off with pve gear on or not?

[Mudor]

The point is. If terrible people get PvE gear it wont carry them far. But the US PvE guild vodka is boosting Jimos and Braindeadly through DS HC for the HC gurthalak and HC vishanka so they can carry vodka members to r1 in 5v5.

PvE items have too much impact on the end pvp ratings that something should be done. Take the NAO invitationals for example. Its a player hosted tournament in the US allowing only PvP gear with exeptions of sub 378 ilvl pve gear.

If blizzard would do like those players do, PvP would be a better place.

[Zues]

Ban PvE gear in general, no reason to just ban the daggers.

[DiscoGhost]

The point is. If terrible people get PvE gear it wont carry them far. But the US PvE guild vodka is boosting Jimos and Braindeadly through DS HC for the HC gurthalak and HC vishanka so they can carry vodka members to r1 in 5v5.

PvE items have too much impact on the end pvp ratings that something should be done. Take the NAO invitationals for example. Its a player hosted tournament in the US allowing only PvP gear with exeptions of sub 378 ilvl pve gear.

If blizzard would do like those players do, PvP would be a better place.

i love those backpeddling boomkins. S key is the Best key!

[Burritaco]

The point is. If terrible people get PvE gear it wont carry them far. But the US PvE guild vodka is boosting Jimos and Braindeadly through DS HC for the HC gurthalak and HC vishanka so they can carry vodka members to r1 in 5v5.

PvE items have too much impact on the end pvp ratings that something should be done. Take the NAO invitationals for example. Its a player hosted tournament in the US allowing only PvP gear with exeptions of sub 378 ilvl pve gear.

If blizzard would do like those players do, PvP would be a better place.

Usually terrible players don't just randomly get 8/8 heroic, and then use PvP gear.

And why do you care about 5's now?

[Mudor]

Ban PvE gear in general, no reason to just ban the daggers.

All though this is a PvE game, PvP is just a sidenote of it. I only PvP since wrath because the raids are only a challenge on HC mode, and I dont have time to raid on a schedule because I got my schedule for RBGs.

If blizz would separate PvE and PvP, both sides would be happy. But why wont they? Because $$$ when people get easytrinkets from DS to streamroll teams who dont.

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Usually terrible players don't just randomly get 8/8 heroic, and then use PvP gear.

And why do you care about 5's now?

I don't care about 5s. I dont play it. I simply pointed out that Braindeadly and Jimos is gonna carry vodka in 5v5 for r1/glad because vodka carry them in PvE.

[Chonar]

This issue is part of a larger problem. Why *wouldnt* you want to use gear you worked hard for to bash other people's faces in? PVE gear will always lack resilience nowadays, so isnt the trade-of always more damage while being more vulnerable?

I remember back in Vanilla, I entered Warsong Gulch with Earthshaker and spiky Might Shoulders, the first of the few before anyone. It was glorious, the countless nights of wiping in Molten Core were being paid off with the blood of my enemies.

Seeing you teethgritting PVP fanatics moan about this just makes me think back to those days, and laugh. :P