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    Quote Originally Posted by crica View Post
    oh - well, then they get divorced and find someone else to be happy with.

    so what?

    still not sure why it matters?

    if the military person don't want to be married to a fat person, all they have to do is speak up and tell them before they leave.

    then its up to the spouse to decide if they want to get fat and divorce or not hehe
    Not trying to argue in the least, I have nothing against heavyset people. Nor does anyone in this thread I think; we were merely making an observation that military spouses seem to put on lots of weight when their significant other goes off on deployment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clevername View Post
    Not trying to argue in the least, I have nothing against heavyset people. Nor does anyone in this thread I think; we were merely making an observation that military spouses seem to put on lots of weight when their significant other goes off on deployment.
    not all of them do, and those that do prolly find food to be comforting to them while alone

    they prolly think its nice to be able to live in a place where they can get fat while alone instead of stuck in a place where they would starve if alone
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    Quote Originally Posted by crica View Post
    not all of them do, and those that do prolly find food to be comforting to them while alone
    Yeah pretty much, if you read most of the posts you'll see that most of us get the fact that military spouses usually eat due to the depression issue. I saw it all the time while I was in and was one of the main reasons I never got married while in the service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clevername View Post
    Yeah pretty much, if you read most of the posts you'll see that most of us get the fact that military spouses usually eat due to the depression issue. I saw it all the time while I was in and was one of the main reasons I never got married while in the service.
    because you dont want a fat spouse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crica View Post
    because you dont want a fat spouse?
    Well that's one of the stipulations yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clevername View Post
    Well that's one of the stipulations yeah.
    then just tell the person you marry that you dont want to be with a fat person

    why would you not get married out of fear that they will get fat?

    divorce them if they get fat and find a skinny person to be with again

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    Quote Originally Posted by crica View Post
    then just tell the person you marry that you dont want to be with a fat person

    why would you not get married out of fear that they will get fat?

    divorce them if they get fat and find a skinny person to be with again
    You sound very shallow indeed, not to mention broke if you attempt to do that. Divorces are expensive things.

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    It is a common fact that most wives tend to let themselves go in a marriage if they feel they are comfortable where they are at in the marriage. Meaning: The wife knows shes not getting divorced anytime soon and has complete faith in the spouse to not cheat on her.

    Heh, with my husband, hes gained a bit a weight since we've been married. He is by no means fat, but he is starting to get a little bit of a beer belly. I'm fat, but then again, I'm pregnant and due in like 2 weeks. :P

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    I'd be kinda bummed out to come back from a tour of duty only to find that a whale moved into my house =(
    And imagine you also had to fuck her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ita View Post
    Why? If the husband is putting his job before hes wife and family, it's only fair when the wife puts her needs before the husbands.

    But yea, OT, I can perfectly understand them. Being married to a military husband would either need the wife to be very selfish, so once they have a man "hooked" they just don't care about their looks any more and start eating and using the paycheck and the privileges. Or just spend time with other men and backups.

    Personally I wouldn't get married to a military man unless he agrees to change hes job though and if he wanted to do it after getting married it would be "forget about it or divorce, honey"
    Saw this one and couldn't let it go unanswered.

    Military members don't put there "jobs" before there families (most dont anyway). Part of the job requires us to be deployed for long periods of time. When someone marries someone in the military they know what they are getting into. You don't marry into that lifestyle and just say "oh well your not home so its your fault." If the spouse is a female, and you need sexual satisfaction that badly while hes gone...get a vibrator or another toy, don't break the trust and commitment of your marriage just because you need to get yourself off.

    The spouse overseas is supposed to be faithful as well, to me it falls into the category of integrity. If I can't depend on one of my soldiers to be loyal to their spose, how can I expect them to stay loyal to your squadmembers when the shit hits the fan.

    I see it all the time downrange. A soldier doing there job, working hard, providing for their family only to have a selfish spouse back home running around on them. Ive seen shitty sposes make more soliders non-combat able due to depression and lack of focus them ive seen from injuries sustained during combat.

    At least you have the integrity to say that youwouldn't marry into that lifestyle because it would make you unhappy. Unfortunately there are lots of women who have NO problem marrying into the military, getting the housing and educational benefits, medical benfits, and other privledges and not do their part and not be a whhorebag while we are gone.

    anyway back to the oringinal question.

    1. Yes we do see it, but i can understand depression causing weight gain. What bugs me are the ones that have their husband home, and still go out to walmart in pajamas and have NO pride in their appearance.

    2. I haven't seen this here at FT. Riley to much, but if you go to a TRADOC base such as FT. Eustis, it is crazy. Whole first rows dedicated not just to current officers and SGM's, but retired as well. I got into a argument with a officers wife once because a VERY pregnant friend of mine took a space reserved for a retired colonel.

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    Last i checked, Adultery is against the UCMJ. If I can get figuratively and financially crucified for it, I don't see why a spouse should deserve a free pass.

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    This isn't uncommon for any marriage, #1 that is. Probably worse for military spouses because their spouse isnt there to support them emotionally, and eating produces a chemical that can provide you comfort. My wife and I gained weight when we got married almost 12 years ago and we lost it together later, we never loved each other less because of our weight.

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    It ever occur to anyone out there that some fit guys might like fat chicks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by raist474 View Post
    Last i checked, Adultery is against the UCMJ. If I can get figuratively and financially crucified for it, I don't see why a spouse should deserve a free pass.
    I'm inclined to agree, but spouses are not covered under UCMJ, and the system is geared towards favoring women.

    What needs to happen is for he military to fix its broken housing system. The biggest reason soldiers get married before they are ready is because they want to get out of the barracks and live their off time like a normal person.

    1. I would make singles rate BAH available to soldiers who are E-5 and above and 25 years old and above. That would just be a start of course.

    Hell I would legalize prostitution within the U.S. as well (regulated for safety of course) that might take care of the "marrying for sex" problem as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by supertony51 View Post
    I'm inclined to agree, but spouses are not covered under UCMJ, and the system is geared towards favoring women.

    What needs to happen is for he military to fix its broken housing system. The biggest reason soldiers get married before they are ready is because they want to get out of the barracks and live their off time like a normal person.

    1. I would make singles rate BAH available to soldiers who are E-5 and above and 25 years old and above. That would just be a start of course.

    Hell I would legalize prostitution within the U.S. as well (regulated for safety of course) that might take care of the "marrying for sex" problem as well
    Unfortunately, I don't see the former happening. The military is somewhat of a sacred thing here, to the point where people who question how it's handled are verbally crucified. Politicians who do the same simply aren't in office long, either. The latter might be a possibility in the next 20 years.

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    1. I would make singles rate BAH available to soldiers who are E-5 and above and 25 years old and above. That would just be a start of course.
    I wasn't saying that spouses should be subject to it.

    How would your system work for older troops? I joined the Air Force at 23, and living in the dorms was like moving back in with my parents, minus the good parts. I got kicked awake so many times for random inspections by NCOs and Officers were somehow ignorant that not everyone worked during the day, and missed countless meals because of inadequate chow hall hours. Not to mention they ruined breakfast for me. Not everyone joins right after high school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raist474 View Post
    I wasn't saying that spouses should be subject to it.

    How would your system work for older troops? I joined the Air Force at 23, and living in the dorms was like moving back in with my parents, minus the good parts. I got kicked awake so many times for random inspections by NCOs and Officers were somehow ignorant that not everyone worked during the day, and missed countless meals because of inadequate chow hall hours. Not to mention they ruined breakfast for me. Not everyone joins right after high school.
    under my system, at the age of 25 a soldier will be given the choice (under approval from their commander and a counseling from their immediate supervisor) to either continue to live in the barracks or recieve single rate BAH and live on the local economy. This of course will be offered to MATURE soliders with no history (or unrelated) UCMJ action or negative counselings based upon issues that would be determental to living off base (I.E. paying their bills, Alcohol incidents etc etc.)

    Id also make it a incentive for E-5's, and would be futher motivation to get soldiers to advance their careers. Its difficult for me to believe that a 19 or 20 year old butter bar is more mature than a SGT with 4+ years in the military.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supertony51 View Post
    Its difficult for me to believe that a 19 or 20 year old butter bar is more mature than a SGT with 4+ years in the military.
    Its a holdover from when there was a distinct class system in society. I know in the Air Force that wall is constantly being chipped at. I never get tired of an Officers shock when they find out I'm just as educated if not more so than them.

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    The way our military is set up is extremely detrimental to all that serve and their families. Playing World Police ruins so many families. Kids grow up without parents and marriages are put to the ultimate test. For what?

    The only thing that I knew that I did not want to do when I grew up was be in the military.

    I have heard my old man's stories about what goes on overseas when he gets tipsy. He always prefaces everything with "this was before your mother and I got married", but they met and were dating in college. A lot of it sounds too tempting to avoid and there was also the pressures to partake from all those around you. Also the cost of living in some places being so low that guys kept second wives for when they were deployed they could crash there and be serviced like a boss.

    Wondering if anyone heard of "smiling contests"?

    Oh ya, god bless GI babies. Some of the prettiest girls I have known were GI babies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supertony51 View Post
    Saw this one and couldn't let it go unanswered.

    Military members don't put there "jobs" before there families (most dont anyway). Part of the job requires us to be deployed for long periods of time. When someone marries someone in the military they know what they are getting into. You don't marry into that lifestyle and just say "oh well your not home so its your fault." If the spouse is a female, and you need sexual satisfaction that badly while hes gone...get a vibrator or another toy, don't break the trust and commitment of your marriage just because you need to get yourself off.

    The spouse overseas is supposed to be faithful as well, to me it falls into the category of integrity. If I can't depend on one of my soldiers to be loyal to their spose, how can I expect them to stay loyal to your squadmembers when the shit hits the fan.

    I see it all the time downrange. A soldier doing there job, working hard, providing for their family only to have a selfish spouse back home running around on them. Ive seen shitty sposes make more soliders non-combat able due to depression and lack of focus them ive seen from injuries sustained during combat.

    At least you have the integrity to say that youwouldn't marry into that lifestyle because it would make you unhappy. Unfortunately there are lots of women who have NO problem marrying into the military, getting the housing and educational benefits, medical benfits, and other privledges and not do their part and not be a whhorebag while we are gone.
    That's assuming you marry someone already in the military and know what you're getting into. I'd say a more common situation is when the couple marries young, possible after high school and then the husband runs off to join the army for whatever reason but without the wife's consent. There isn't much the wife could do about it really.

    Now she's faced with 3 options. Suffer through it and "take one for your country", divorce or just live well on the husbands money and seek the company of better men. Personally I haven't had this situation in my life before but I've had to deal with selfish men a lot and they aren't all the white knight types who discuss everything with their wives or girlfriends. Usually it's "I'll do what I want, stop nagging and suffocating me even with decisions that greatly affect both". I'd call the last option the most reasonable since when he didn't think of the wife, it's only fair to be selfish too and use him till you find someone better or if he really loves you, make him jealous and force him to quit the military.

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