If an individual wants to pray to himself for wisdom guidance what have you and its not affecting his ability to pay attention to whats going on and do his job i'm ok with that. This however taking a five minute prayer session is simply cutting into the work day. Try that at any other job. If your belief states that you must pray for 5 minutes before you start your work day wake up 5 minutes earlier?
Again, this is not about middle eastern nations. Britain does not have any laws separating church and state. If people want to protect the right of minority, then they should work through legislature to make a law that does that. Otherwise, that protection does not exist.
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Is it appropriate? Is it a "greater wrong" for Saudi Arabia to liberalise?
This is about Britain, but your remarks are concerning nonetheless. You have made it a standard that the majority has the right to demand any law they like.Again, this is not about middle eastern nations. Britain does not have any laws separating church and state. If people want to protect the right of minority, then they should work through legislature to make a law that does that. Otherwise, that protection does not exist.
I'm asking you how far you go on that.
Actually the law that separates church and state has been twisted. It was originally intended so that the government couldn't dictate where you were allowed to pray. You were supposed to be able to pray in school or any government building or anywhere you want (freedom of religion). It has since been twisted so you can't pray in any government building including schools which is unconstitutional.
Article 1 : France shall be an indivisible, secular, democratic and social Republic. It shall ensure the equality of all citizens before the law, without distinction of origin, race or religion. It shall respect all beliefs.
umm.. isn't the Queen of England also the head of the church?
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You do realise that England has a state religion right?
The Church of England/Anglican and all. There is no separation of church and state like there is in several other secularised countries.
I would just show up 5 minutes later after it was done. People can do that on their own time, when you gather a group of people you are wasting everyone's time. So just get it over with and get done, don't add what you don't need.
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However lets assume the government breaks down tomorrow you honestly think if people can't accept our political leaders they will accept the authority of her majesty? In my opinion that doesn't sound very plausible, I think there would be civil unrest until a new government is formed.
It is also worth pointing out that this power being activated by the government for councils to have prayer meetings here in the UK is being activated without any kind of knowledge on popular consensus on the matter and also contrary to a ruling by the High Court. If you believe many statistics also, Christianity amongst citizens here is a minority.
I don't see why not. they're allowed to hold these meetings, not obliged to if they don't want to.
if atheists attend, they can either respect the religious among them or go and whine to their higher ups.
if i were in a council that would hold prayer at the beginning of every meeting, i would yell satanistic verses every time, saying that it's a prayer of my religion and there would be nothing they could do about it..
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Religion should be kept separate from politics on principle. I know it's hardly a major problem; but it's wasting a few minutes of the council's time every time they convene. I'm sure your house can accommodate your morning prayers or whatever.