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  1. #861
    Okay, I am really bad at math and trying to figure out skill damage, especially the way it's laid out in GW2. I'm trying to figure out which 3 "traps" (one of them technically isn't a trap) are the best out of 4 options: Spike Trap, Flame Trap, Viper's Nest, and Shrapnel Mine.

    I usually load up my bar with traps during events and AoE situations and I'm just wondering what's the most bang for the buck given the limited slot skill space?

  2. #862
    Quote Originally Posted by Lane View Post
    Okay, I am really bad at math and trying to figure out skill damage, especially the way it's laid out in GW2. I'm trying to figure out which 3 "traps" (one of them technically isn't a trap) are the best out of 4 options: Spike Trap, Flame Trap, Viper's Nest, and Shrapnel Mine.

    I usually load up my bar with traps during events and AoE situations and I'm just wondering what's the most bang for the buck given the limited slot skill space?
    I could be totally off here cause I haven't really read up on anything about GW2 from players that look more deeply into stuff, but it seems to me anything with fire tends to do more dmg with the downside of some mobs being immune to fire.
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  3. #863
    Fire has the most damage but has the shortest duration and can't be stacked (it only resets the length of the burning).

  4. #864
    Way better off using the aoe on Axe/Torch than loading up on traps. Hopefully your flip weapon is a bow with Arrow Piercing. So all you have to do is use free aim to AOE bleed most zerg mobs in like 1/s. For open world stuff, natch.

    In dungeons, Axe/Warhorn is a slightly better kit than Axe/Torch. Though the latter is not too shabby, tbh.

    The optimal Ranger trap is the one with shortest CD & highest damage per tick: Fire Trap.

  5. #865
    Quote Originally Posted by Fencers View Post
    Way better off using the aoe on Axe/Torch than loading up on traps. Hopefully your flip weapon is a bow with Arrow Piercing. So all you have to do is use free aim to AOE bleed most zerg mobs in like 1/s. For open world stuff, natch.

    In dungeons, Axe/Warhorn is a slightly better kit than Axe/Torch. Though the latter is not too shabby, tbh.

    The optimal Ranger trap is the one with shortest CD & highest damage per tick: Fire Trap.
    I forgot about piercing. (I have it, just forgot about it. :P) And for some reason it never even occurred to me to use torch. x_X I've been using warhorn, mostly for the speed boost.

    I guess I'll have to play around with it. Throwing down traps everywhere has thus far been really effective, especially when mobs are all over the place. What about Sharpening Stone + Poison Volley with piercing?

  6. #866
    Throw down that torch bonfire skill and stand in it while firing off axe #1 with quickening zephyr up. Faceroll your way to hundreds of gold and a full karma set in a week.

    Conversely, torch #5 is also great for single target if using a bow. Torch #5 -> Ra1-> QZ/SS -> Longbow #3, 2, 1. Profit as one of the hardest hitting combos in the game. Only a Thief will out do you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fencers View Post
    Torch #5 -> Ra1-> QZ/SS -> Longbow #3, 2, 1.
    Nice. I caught all of that except Ra1?

    Also, what pet(s) do you use/recommend? I haven't played with many of them. The Pink Moa could be the most OP pet out there and I wouldn't know it. :P

  8. #868
    Rampage as One. Elite skill.

    Brown bear for solo, raven for blind. Any ranged pet/raven for dungeons. Cats are good but fragile.

    Rainbow jellyfish/armored fish for underwater.

  9. #869
    Quote Originally Posted by Fencers View Post
    Rampage as One. Elite skill.

    Brown bear for solo, raven for blind. Any ranged pet/raven for dungeons. Cats are good but fragile.

    Rainbow jellyfish/armored fish for underwater.
    Blind is nice and ravens are even worth using for looks alone but it's worth noting that both eagle and hawk have a pretty powerful bleed on a very short CD (6s) and it now hits almost instantly wich it never did before so they fixed that.
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  10. #870
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    I realize no one has posted in this thread for some time, but this is the ranger thread...

    Can anyone explain all the hate for the greatsword ranger? I've read a couple sparse threads on the main site about how awful it is, but I just started using it @lvl 40 and I'm loving it. It does just as much damage as anything else except that for clumps of melee mobs it far better for AOE.

    Is it just at max level that the bow builds are far superior, especially considering how much easier it is to be ranged on higher events/dungeons?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kittyvicious View Post
    I realize no one has posted in this thread for some time, but this is the ranger thread...

    Can anyone explain all the hate for the greatsword ranger? I've read a couple sparse threads on the main site about how awful it is, but I just started using it @lvl 40 and I'm loving it. It does just as much damage as anything else except that for clumps of melee mobs it far better for AOE.

    Is it just at max level that the bow builds are far superior, especially considering how much easier it is to be ranged on higher events/dungeons?
    I dont know where the hate is coming from either. Using a lowbow and greatsword atm, the greatsword generaly does more damage and im spec'd for bow damage. But the bow lets me have alot more security. But yea for fast aoe i just switch to the GS and win
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  12. #872
    The GS hate comes mainly from PvE (dungeon) players. GS is a defensive weapon (gazillion evades on auto attack+block+daze. This makes it very subpar for PvE (you want dps).

    I'm not certain of the skill mods otherwise I'd be 100% certain about the next statement: "you rely on 2skills to dps and your auto attack is very weak".

    Also there is no way to "spec for bow dmg" as there are no ranger talents that specifically increase Bow dmg (unless you're using a longbow which is a whole lot of fail in itself but that wasn't the question...).

    If you really want to aoe there are two (or three depending on how you look at it) ways of aoeing. Longbow 5 (very strong actually) and traps + axe 5 ofcourse you should be using a drake pet now.. GS is the only weapon that cleaves (sword might but I'm not sure...) which is handy but the problem is that the attacks that do cleave hit for nothing. You're better off just rapidly spiking stuff with your sb/pet combo (birds or cats) since they do far more damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayp View Post
    I dont know where the hate is coming from either. Using a lowbow and greatsword atm, the greatsword generaly does more damage and im spec'd for bow damage. But the bow lets me have alot more security. But yea for fast aoe i just switch to the GS and win
    That has been my experience as well. I actually used the shortbow b/c as much as everyone says longbow is top damage, it woefully underperforms for me while leveling for me and I am spec'd for bows as well. Since I got a decent greatsword I've been running GS/Shortbow and it feels much better than anything I've played so far. I feel like if I reinvested points towards survivability and sword damage I would be more efficient (at leveling anyways).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meledelion View Post
    Also there is no way to "spec for bow dmg" as there are no ranger talents that specifically increase Bow dmg (unless you're using a longbow which is a whole lot of fail in itself but that wasn't the question...).
    I believe there is also a trait for shortbows combined with some other weapon...maybe it was shortbows and axes, but I can't remember atm.

    And what you said might pan out in dungeons or max level, but I haven't shared any of those experiences in solo leveling play. The aoe on longbow is pretty miserable, it feels like throwing noodles at them. And this is with all weapon dps being about the same, so it's not like I have a horrible longbow and awesome everything else.

    Does shortbow with piercing arrows actually 'turn' into an aoe? If so, does it apply the bleed to everything it hits or just the first target? If it stacks the bleed with piercing, then that seems far superior to anything for aoe at range, just from auto attacks.
    Last edited by Kelimbror; 2013-04-11 at 02:21 PM.
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  14. #874
    AFAIK there only is a 5% dmg buff for longbows and 20% recharge reduction on both SB and LB.

    For solo leveling/exploring it really doesn't matter what you run since your pet will solo everything anyway.
    The AoE on longbow actually is one of the hardest hitting skills in the game.

    And yes, piercing arrows works the way you think, remember though that you need to be flanking for SB bleeds to apply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meledelion View Post
    And yes, piercing arrows works the way you think, remember though that you need to be flanking for SB bleeds to apply.
    Yeah that's not really a problem with an ursine pet...they are champs. I think knowing that piercing works that way I will stick to running a GS/SB combo for leveling and make sure to have piercing arrows. Seems to fit my style well. I will probably want to farm that way too.

    Thanks for the responses.
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    I don't really know. I just like sword + warhorn way more, while the wings charge on greatsword is cool, the fighting style of the sword is priceless.
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  17. #877
    The GS hate comes mainly from PvE (dungeon) players. GS is a defensive weapon (gazillion evades on auto attack+block+daze. This makes it very subpar for PvE (you want dps).
    I don't play a ranger but I'm pretty sure GS auto attack has no evade attached to it, the 1h sword does and GS daze increases pet damage. Other then the block on GS there really isn't anything defensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zito View Post
    I don't play a ranger but I'm pretty sure GS auto attack has no evade attached to it, the 1h sword does and GS daze increases pet damage. Other then the block on GS there really isn't anything defensive.
    Yeah it has auto dodge on it...third strike I think? I discovered that yesterday when 20 dodges was one of the daily requirements. Going to remember that cheese for the future.
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  19. #879
    Personally, I run axe/torch + traps and I find it very effective. My weapon swap is short bow, but I'm not a huge fan of it. Frankly, I've found the majority of the ranger arsenal to be lackluster for one reason or another.

  20. #880
    Hi
    This is my build: http://tinyurl.com/d6kwzd9

    My set is the power, precision, crit from CoF with the superior runes of ranger, the weapons are the long and short mystic bows (condition damage) with the superior sigil of precision, I got the ascended accessories, neck, earrings and rings of power, precision, crit...
    I play mostly PvE and WvW, I really love the range part of the rangers and cant stand close combat...

    Any suggestions to tweak my build to make it better?

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