Should I switch from WoW?

[vizzle]

WoW bored me to tears so I came to SWTOR. The game is still exciting to me but that is probably because I can't play it for 8-10 hours a day and suffering from burnout like so many others seem to be reporting.

It seems like the WoW mentality followed itself here and some people are still in the 'race-to-endgame-to-get-the-best-gear mindset. To each his own. I'm still having fun and plan on having fun for a long time with this game.

The game has been out 2 months. I can assure you, I was not racing to endgame, but I'm also not a turtle so it doesn't take me several months to get to 50.

---------- Post added 2012-02-23 at 09:31 AM ----------

Half of your post is senseless and not thought out very well at all not to mention just plain wrong in some cases. The Imperial/Republic fleet consists 3 ships not just the single main area you speak of. In addition to these other two ships you happen to completely ignore , all of the ships on the fleet are multi-level. You are whining because you didn't bother to explore the rest of the game. Did you know there is a museum on one of the floors of the other ships? there is actually many places to check out. I think the main area with all the vendors and quest hubs is great, I don't need to travel to 3-5 different points in a massive city just to pick up daily quests and then to 2 other cities just to pick up more daily quests.

The point I'm trying to make is that there is no little things about the game that makes it a real world/universe. Everything is streamlined, everything has a purpose. In a real world, this isn't true. WoW is brilliant at this. You have all these NPCs that don't have any purpose except just to be there. In TOR, you can't even mouseover most NPCs, and they do nothing but dance mostly. It's lifeless. In WoW you'd see houses, I'd at least expect to see rooms in TOR. Nope.

You argument about general chat not being universal is invalid also. I really enjoy the look and feel of vashjir but I don't expect to be able to hang out in the ocean all day and still be able to read and take part in trade chat. If you find general chat to be that hard to tare your self away from then go join a chat room or something and you can put up a desktop background and make believe you are anywhere you wish, all without the 15$ a month fee too.

That's great, but in WoW (and I hate saying that, I'm not a WoW fanboy but I'm going to compare it anyway) you have the option to be in either Org, TB, Undercity, Silvermoon, or SW, IF, and etc etc. Back before Cataclysm ruined it so that everyone was forced to be in SW/Org, I would hang out in IF just because I liked the setting more. In TOR you don't have this option, you have to sit in the dreary fleet if you want to keep up with trade chat. And it's not about the chat, it's about the fact that if you're not in it, you might miss the next "LFM raid/LFM premade". So calm down, buddy boy.

Your statements on questing are even worse. It is apparent that you spent little to no time questing during your campaign to level 50. Sure for the first 1-25 levels or so you wont see packs bigger than 3 because most classes dont have their AoE or many other abilities yet but when you reach the higher level more difficult content you will find groups or 1,2,3,4,5, and even 6. Not sure I even wanna touch your take on the bonus missions but I guess I will..... every MMO I have ever played has sent you back to areas you have already been to do "bonus" or "Follow-up" quests it is just how it works. Someone can't send you out to pick up materials for a poison/bomb and then magically turn those into the poison/bomb for you without returning to them.

I think you completely missed the point of me mentioning that "mobs stand in groups of 3". Okay, some of the groups are in 4! That makes me completely wrong, right?! Rofl. It's not about the number, it's about the fact that they just STAND THERE in a group, so convenient for your AoE, waiting for you to get there. They don't pat, they don't move, a few of them pat but most of them don't. They're just SO CONVENIENTLY PLACED for your AoE. It's just XP fodder, and Bioware doesn't mask it at all.

And as for the bonus quests, please stop blindly defending the game and use your imagination for a bit. What's better design? Let's say you have point A and point B. To go to point B you have to go through point A. Now let's say the first bonus quest is "kill 25 people", and you do this in point A. Okay, great, done. Now that you're done with that, you should be in point B by default, since you just went through point A. The follow up quest, "collect 10 bombs", should be in point B, since that's where you are now, instead of making you turn around to point A. Instead, Bioware makes you farm point A for 25 kills, and then farm point A for 10 bombs. In fact, why the fuck can't you just do both quests at the same time? There's no point making them followup quests when they're exactly in the same area. This is one of the things where WoW was great at - they'd give you 4-5 quests at a time, and all those quests could be done at the same time, in the same area. In TOR, the bonus quests make you keep turning around and around.

Ilum has it's share of problems on the more unbalanced servers but on my server ilum is the most fun I have ever had PvPing in any MMO. My server is pretty balanced and very high population thus ilum is very enjoyable. Most tuesday's you will find battles of 60v60 or possibly even larger all day long.

Good for you, I don't care about your server, on my server I sit inside the Republic base 90% of the time waiting for the Imps to get tired and let us kill a few stragglers. Ilum is retarded design, and I have no faith in a company that ever allowed it to happen in its current iteration.

I don't know what you expect from an MMO but end game is all about raiding and pvp. Thats what there is to do , if you don't like either go level another toon and shutup. You have to realize this their first EVER attempt at raids and warzones. The warzones are actually very very unique and have no WoW feel to them at all so I don't know how you cam to that conclusion. The raids are much different also, we see a few puzzle bosses( Something WoW has more or less NEVER done. chess doesnt count cause it wasnt about the puzzle of chess) we have one boss/council where it is every man for themselves , even the healers, everyone has to fight a mob on their own. Both of these bosses were very unique and original to SWToR and not something they copied from a WoW Formula. Just because a few bosses are more basic doesn't mean they are not unique.

It's very obvious you've never played an MMO other than WoW if you can't imagine an MMO without constant raids. Get back to me when you open your experience/mind a bit.

Your only fair point in your whole post is the optimization. The game engine needs to be reworked to handle large groups of people in single areas. From my understanding the engine is built to be optimized on the fly and something like this will take time but will get patched in.

That's great, but I spent the last two months lagging like shit in the only place where I wanted to play - warzones. I lost patience. The rest of the world is fine, the fleet is fine, hell Ilum is "fine" with its 5 fps, at least I can see stuff. In Warzones my problem was that I would have 30 fps at one second, and then next second I would freeze for several moments.

Edit: You wanna go to nar shadda to hang out in a cantina? This makes absolutely no sense, there is a really nice cantina on the fleet with more to look at then there would be in a smaller cantina in ANY CITY. I don't see the point of being in a "beautiful city" if your gonna sit in the cantina.

I don't even want to bother explaining it to you. As I said to someone else on this forum,

If you can't understand now, then you never will, and any amount of explaining is a waste of words.

[Miah]

Right, I couldn't agree more. Swtors end game is equivalent to that pile of crap that is Dragon Soul. Thank you for the support.

@Miah

I didn't take the time to read your wall of text because the lack of punctuation and space makes my eyes bleed. I did skim it to the point where you said your wife is super casual and she enjoys swtor. Well, of course she enjoys swtor, it is SUPER CASUAL and lends itself to people who can't be asked to dedicate alot of time to one character, why else do you think people are raving about rolling alts?

Dedicate alot of time to one character...........snicker, You mean dedicate alot of time to their 7 toons....................per server. I've heard it all now. We will just talk PvP here, You can max an 85 in what, like 4 days now, or are they giving out 100x XP these days to easy mode you to 85.

Now get into your Premade Rated BG or Arena and nothing is stopping you from getting fully geared, get your weekly max in a couple hours and wait til next week. I've seen Valor Rank 70s without full Battlemaster Gear since its RNG.

Or maybe talk PVE where most these days are one shotting PVE night one, at least they did in Firelands, the last time I could bring myself to play that tired old remake

[frogger237]

Personally I just cancelled my SWTOR subscription here are some of my pros and cons to the game:

Pros-
New worlds to explore and really interesting story lines.
New classes to try.
Companions.
Modifiable gear. -Orange gear changes its "lvl" by changing the mods in it, you could literally take an entire orange set to max lvl if you keep changing the mods
Similar playstyle to WoW (dungeons, pvp, raids,dailies)

Cons-
Terrible customer service.
Terrible frame rate if you dont have a good computer.
Game should still be in beta. They released it too quick without fixing alot of the problems like some companions not receiving quest/orange/pvp weapons (consular's first companion) and some companions having items with the wrong stats and several other things.
Similar playstyle to WoW (dungeons, pvp, raids,dailies)


Personally I regret shelling out 300$ for the collectors edition and a 6 month sub. But I recommend you to try it for a month and see how you like it.

[Vegemeat]

Dedicate alot of time to one character...........snicker, You mean dedicate alot of time to their 7 toons....................per server. I've heard it all now. We will just talk PvP here, You can max an 85 in what, like 4 days now, or are they giving out 100x XP these days to easy mode you to 85.

Now get into your Premade Rated BG or Arena and nothing is stopping you from getting fully geared, get your weekly max in a couple hours and wait til next week. I've seen Valor Rank 70s without full Battlemaster Gear since its RNG.

Or maybe talk PVE where most these days are one shotting PVE night one, at least they did in Firelands, the last time I could bring myself to play that tired old remake

You whole post is just someone who who wants their new toy to be more special than somebody elses old toy. ENJOY THE GAME! If star wars does it for you good for you, im glad you like it. I however listed several reasons I feel it's not worth the sub, if it offended you im sorry, I don't like your game. When it swtor becomes fun i'll resub. As it stands now, I have more fun sitting in SW talking in trade than trying to play the pile that is Swtor.

This is how pvp in swtor works: Whoever managed to stack exploit wins. Ilum is laughable and should never be mentioned as anything good. PVE is dull and boring and nothing new, please, bioware STEP OUTSIDE THE BOX and make something interesting. Being the new kid is not an excuse for all the problems it has when it's been in development for 5 years? They had the time to make it better, they didn't.

THIS IS ALL MY OPINION ON THE STATE OF SWTOR AS IT STANDS TODAY WHEN COMPARED WITH A GAME THAT WAS RELEASED 7 YEARS AGO.

Warning - Removed the offensive part. ~Rag

[A Challenger!]

There's simply nothing better in the MMO market than WoW atm.

This is quite possibly the most subjective statement in this entire thread, and I could not disagree more.

[Tarazai]

Wait until late march tbh. Right now the endgame is lacking but bioware are adding a new flashpoint and operation in 1.2 + dailies and other such crap. It's a great game but it's also lacking much to do at level 50 if you only care about the story then buy it now, if not then wait until the end of march.

I left WoW after 7 years for this game and i've not looked back, it is lacking no one can deny that but that should change in time unless bioware want to see the game collapse faster than the cataclysm expansion.

[obdigore]

I guess I'm confused how people are saying the endgame is lacking when the endgame that TOR currently has is, in my opinion, better than DS in almost every way.

[Miah]

You whole post is just someone who wants their new toy to be more special than somebody elses old toy. ENJOY THE GAME! If star wars does it for you good for you, im glad you like it. I however listed several reasons I feel it's not worth the sub, if it offended you im sorry, I don't like your game. When it swtor becomes fun i'll resub. As it stands now, I have more fun sitting in SW talking in trade than trying to play the pile that is Swtor.

This is how pvp in swtor works: Whoever managed to stack exploit wins. Ilum is laughable and should never be mentioned as anything good. PVE is dull and boring and nothing new, please, bioware STEP OUTSIDE THE BOX and make something interesting. Being the new kid is not an excuse for all the problems it has when it's been in development for 5 years? They had the time to make it better, they didn't.

THIS IS ALL MY OPINION ON THE STATE OF SWTOR AS IT STANDS TODAY WHEN COMPARED WITH A GAME THAT WAS RELEASED 7 YEARS AGO.

This might be the most hysterical piece of hypocrisy I've read in years, Thank you.

Its funny you blame being terrible at PvP on exploits instead of just being bad and under geared but thanks for clarifying exactly why you like Wowsies and find SWTOR too complicated to PvP. Sitting around in SW is pretty much all WoW has had to offer since around .............. mid BC, glad you enjoy it. OK mods go ahead and send me another PM about how non productive my posts are whilst clowns like this are allowed to post this silly rambling turd sandwich. They state they dont like SWTOR, think its terrible but hang around in here and try and tell us WoW is a great game in some delusional attempt to get us to come back to their tired game I guess??? Why else would they hang out in forums of a game they don't play?

Maybe I should go find some rift forums and tell them how terrible the game is they enjoy playing even though I've never played it, or dont have enough computer to run a game, so fabricate bugs, exploits and what ever other jibberish I can to try and persuage them they dont enjoy what they enjoy.

[Vegemeat]

I don't want you to come back to WoW, in fact I hope you enjoy Swtor and stay as long as you like. My sub to swtor runs out next month, I have my founder title ;-)

Please, do try to be less angry when you post, I never said WoW was a great game, you coming in here all angry only helps to devolve the thread into a bunch of angry nerds trying to puff their chests out.

[SamR]

They state they dont like SWTOR, think its terrible but hang around in here and try and tell us WoW is a great game in some delusional attempt to get us to come back to their tired game I guess??? Why else would they hang out in forums of a game they don't play?

If you go to the main mmo-champion site(http://www.mmo-champion.com/) look at what it says in the title bar.

"MMO-Champion - World of Warcraft News and Raiding Strategies"

It's not surprising there are a lot of WoW players current and former on these forums since this is a WoW fansite.

This thread in particular even has WoW in the title! It's requesting a comparison between SWTOR and WoW.

[jvbastel]

Wait until late march tbh. Right now the endgame is lacking but bioware are adding a new flashpoint and operation in 1.2 + dailies and other such crap.

This right here sums up why I quit the game. Not because it's bad or anything, but because

1. They did no effort whatsoever to set SWTOR apart from the other games in the genre. It's dungeons and raids, while waiting for a new dungeon and raid.
2. Even then, what they did for endgame is severely lacking.

Tor was the best mmorpg I played, until I hit 50 on my IA. The levelling experience is great.
However, since 85% percent of what you'll do on your alt is exactly the same as what you did on your main,
this game is even less alt-friendly than wow for me.

Endgame pvp is an absolute joke and BW should be ashamed of releasing it in that state.
Endgame pve is a clone of WoW endgame pve.

Where rift is going more and more away from the MMO-standard with solo/duo challenges, the instant adventure thingy, AA, open world pvp rifts, SWTOR is just "ctrl+c/ctrl+v"-ing in the hope that they'll make back their money.

I'm glad 2012 looks to become a better year for MMO's with innovative titles like GW2,Tera, TSW and Archeage.

We don't need another WoW, we need something new

[Flimsy]

Nope if your bored of WoW then apart from a decent questing experience TOR wont offer much in the long term, the end game is so similar to WoW (only less polished IMO) its not worth the switch, before I get flamed for saying this Id like to point out this is only my opinion.

[Ordieth]

Alot of people complain that SWTOR isnt that innovative, and I would just like to say that what they have shown me so far I like. I have no desire to re-invent the wheel as it were. The Loot grind system has been in place for ages, since pen and paper, and if you dont like that type of system then move along please. Personaly I dont mind it one bit, but then again several years of raiding in wow rarely burned me out either.

PS On a side note I checked out some GW2 videos that have been flying around the net lately and all I have to say is that looks like the biggest piece of crap ever. I find it funny that people talk about GW2 as being some MMO Messiah thats going to save us all from the horrible MMO genre! What a bunch of crap. If you like a game you like it, and if you dont then do not play it. But to contantly reference it like you would hand over first born to thier publishers is getting a bit out of hand.

I got out of SWTOR exactly what I was looking for, which is a game similar to WoW but with a new engine and better graphics. I feel like I got my money's worth so far. The thing is that if your tired of WoW then SWTOR may seem to similar for you to enjoy. I like to balance my game time to prevent this kind of burnout with Shogun 2 at the moment, but several games go into the rotation.

[jvbastel]

Alot of people complain that SWTOR isnt that innovative, and I would just like to say that what they have shown me so far I like. I have no desire to re-invent the wheel as it were. The Loot grind system has been in place for ages, since pen and paper, and if you dont like that type of system then move along please. Personaly I dont mind it one bit, but then again several years of raiding in wow rarely burned me out either.

PS On a side note I checked out some GW2 videos that have been flying around the net lately and all I have to say is that looks like the biggest piece of crap ever. I find it funny that people talk about GW2 as being some MMO Messiah thats going to save us all from the horrible MMO genre! What a bunch of crap. If you like a game you like it, and if you dont then do not play it. But to contantly reference it like you would hand over first born to thier publishers is getting a bit out of hand.

I got out of SWTOR exactly what I was looking for, which is a game similar to WoW but with a new engine and better graphics. I feel like I got my money's worth so far. The thing is that if your tired of WoW then SWTOR may seem to similar for you to enjoy. I like to balance my game time to prevent this kind of burnout with Shogun 2 at the moment, but several games go into the rotation.

Well the complaint that SWTOR isn't innovative is quite valid, since, well, it just isn't
It's the reason I quit the game, because there's no reason whatsoever why I would go trough the same thing again, I quit WoW because I got bored of doing boring dailies,hc's and raids every day, so I won't do it in another game.

That said, SWTOR is not a bad game at all, and if someone new to mmo's would ask me what MMO they should play, I'ld say SWTOR.

Also, I'm curious why you would say GW2 is the biggest piece of crap ever? I've yet to see a single negative review. It's one thing to say why you don't like a game (which most of the people in this thread are doing), but just mindlessly bashing a game is plain trolling.

[CommanderSheephard]

PS On a side note I checked out some GW2 videos that have been flying around the net lately and all I have to say is that looks like the biggest piece of crap ever. I find it funny that people talk about GW2 as being some MMO Messiah thats going to save us all from the horrible MMO genre! What a bunch of crap. If you like a game you like it, and if you dont then do not play it. But to contantly reference it like you would hand over first born to thier publishers is getting a bit out of hand.

I watched that video with the garr (spl?) going around with a blunderbuss shooting crap and then fighting underwater.

Looked sluggish. Unresponsive. The UI looked convoluted. The struggle mechanic looked like something you'd see on the Wii.

Honestly. I will be letting someone else buy it and then borrowing it for a weekend. I will try it but I do not think that this game will revolutionize anything.

[nerfmagesffs]

Well if you are not addicted to playing some kind of game (I find myself being very bored when not having a subscription to any game for a longer period), I would suggest you stopping, untill a week or so before MoP comes out

In that way the expansion will feel more epic, if you know what I mean

[Vexies]

Also, I'm curious why you would say GW2 is the biggest piece of crap ever? I've yet to see a single negative review. It's one thing to say why you don't like a game (which most of the people in this thread are doing), but just mindlessly bashing a game is plain trolling.

I would argue with your statement about SWTOR and innovation but that would just be wasted effort. Personally there are things I find quite refreshing and innovative..but thats another discussion entirely. However I just have to delve into this GW2 and innovative stuff we keep hearing over and over and over again. First let me say I plan to check it out because.. well I tend to check out all new MMO's I just like them. That said I fail to see this "innovation" and great end game that everyone seems to push. In fact my biggest concern about that game is lack of content at all. You have, if I understand it right, questing in the form of "dynamic events" which is questing that just happens wether you participate or not, cool sure ..but its just questing so, innovative? I guess in the same way that companions are. you have PVP that you que for.. NO world pvp at all with the exception of weekly realm vs realm events and... small dungeon runs.. So where is all this innovation and massive end game at? Sure you can run dungeons.. they will add new ones JUST LIKE SWTOR.. there are BG's where you pvp.. JUST LIKE SWTOR and.. what else? where is all this content and innovation? I just dont see it. You dont see negative reviews yet simply because the game isnt out yet but dont worry you will see the same rabid community turn on it too.. its just what people do these days.

On topic the game is very fun, I find it a lot more fun that WoW and personally I was looking for a classic MMO with raids and SWTOR delivers so.. I say play it and profit. You will experience a great game that can only get better. Me personally? I could never go back to wow. I hope SWTOR is my new home but if not, well hopefully they will make a good game but I just dont see anything coming out or out atm that competes with it. Hopefully, I am wrong.

[vizzle]

I would argue with your statement about SWTOR and innovation but that would just be wasted effort. Personally there are things I find quite refreshing and innovative..but thats another discussion entirely. However I just have to delve into this GW2 and innovative stuff we keep hearing over and over and over again. First let me say I plan to check it out because.. well I tend to check out all new MMO's I just like them. That said I fail to see this "innovation" and great end game that everyone seems to push. In fact my biggest concern about that game is lack of content at all. You have, if I understand it right, questing in the form of "dynamic events" which is questing that just happens wether you participate or not, cool sure ..but its just questing so, innovative? I guess in the same way that companions are. you have PVP that you que for.. NO world pvp at all with the exception of weekly realm vs realm events and... small dungeon runs.. So where is all this innovation and massive end game at? Sure you can run dungeons.. they will add new ones JUST LIKE SWTOR.. there are BG's where you pvp.. JUST LIKE SWTOR and.. what else? where is all this content and innovation? I just dont see it. You dont see negative reviews yet simply because the game isnt out yet but dont worry you will see the same rabid community turn on it too.. its just what people do these days.

I don't know.

WoW kept me satisfied for 3 years. TOR kept me satisfied for 2 months. I didn't jump off the bandwagon when Warhammer, Aion, or Rift came out. I'm not one of the "MMO-hoppers", believe me. I stopped playing WoW when I got tired of it, and I stopped playing TOR when I got tired of it. TOR was just not very interesting.

And you're the guy who always talked to me about how "what did you expect in a game? Of course there's going to be raids" well now that there's an MMORPG without raids (GW2) you say that it lacks content? Just wait, and let's see honestly. The game isn't based around you keeping your sub, the game is based around buying it and having fun. You don't have to play your money's worth.


TOR has no innovation. The most innovative things TOR has is Companions and Morality, both of which are thrown out the window at max level. They only apply during leveling, because when you're at 50, it doesn't really matter if you're light side or dark side, and you never use your Companions in the level 50 activities anyway (raids/warzones). You use your companions for professions and whenever you do dailies, though I never did dailies because they were pointless.

At least Guild Wars 2 is trying something different, instead of copying WoW and hoping to steal some of WoW's success.

[Woeful]

I am going to add two cents to this discussion and tell you to wait.

If you are a fan of star wars and think you will love the questing/leveling part of the game then buy the game and enjoy. It has a lot of similarities to wow but the cut scenes and voice acting does a better job of telling the story.
The cut scenes are not for everyone. If your goal is to race through content to get to 50, then you miss the best SWTOR has to offer. Don't buy the game.

Addressing the call that there is a lack of end game. I am going to respectfully disagree. WoW has about 7 current level dungeons (5 mans). WoW has one current level raid (Dragon Soul). SWTOR has about 7 level 50 Flashpoints (4 mans) and has two current level raids (Eternity Vault and Karagga's Palace)

WoW has the LFR difficulty level. SWTOR has normal mode.
Wow has non-heroic difficulty level. SWTOR has hard mode.
Wow has heroic level. SWTOR has nightmare.

In PvP there is no real comparison. 6 battlegrounds vs. 3 war zones. One planet Illum that is broken and in bad need of repair. The class balance is not fantastic in SWTOR, but the game is designed to be more of war of attrition rather than one shot one kill, first one to shoot wins.

The main differences is not in the lack of content. The main differences are:

1. SWTOR does not have a LFD or LFR tool. You are not spoon feed your daily quests. You are forced to form friendships. You help each other out and you stay in touch with the people that you like. You join guilds with like minded people. You have to make groups.

2. The raids are not tuned as well as some would like. For the elite player in SWTOR, they have geared and burned the end-game content. The elite player in wow has also geared and burned the end-game content. For the normal more casual player. Normals are challenging but not impossible. The guilds are new, the people are still learning how to raid together and the bosses have bugs. The lack of a combat log makes working through the mechanics of a boss, more of a challenge, but not impossible. Raiding and such is more frustrating and can therefor be less fun.

3. The tools that you had in wow that made wow easier to play are missing. Next patch we get target of target. The raid frame scales but the buffs and debuffs are not scalable. Simple things that we took for granted in wow, or (we down-loaded an add-on) are missing. HOWEVER, SWTOR has consistently pushed out improvements to the UI. I think they learned that having little to no customization was bad. I think they are working to correct it.

Bottom line.

Wait. The bugs are getting smashed. The features we expect from wow are coming, and more "end-game" content, (Another war-zone, another flash point, another operation) is coming.

If these features are important to you then wait. See if Bio delivers. Then make up your mind.

Peace

[Vexies]

you're the guy who always talked to me about how "what did you expect in a game? Of course there's going to be raids" well now that there's an MMORPG without raids (GW2) you say that it lacks content? Just wait, and let's see honestly. The game isn't based around you keeping your sub, the game is based around buying it and having fun. You don't have to play your money's worth.

Well I wouldnt say that nor am I a MMO hoper. I played WoW for 6 years while I played other MMO's as well as I just love the genre as I have said. I just recently left wow because I just couldnt stand the direction the game is being taken but id be the first to say that "product" is solid just the vision is flawed. Im not sure I follow what your saying but it sounds like its free to play so it doesn't have to have content? yeah.. but that sounds pretty crappy to me. I want it to be good.. but it looks like pvping in the same BG's over and over again until they release more BG's.. no raids at all to break up the monotony and dungeons.. so really? Dont get me wrong it looks all flashy the graphics are phenomenal looking, character creation looks top notch.. but you strip that away and what do you have? a MMO with less content than other ones but thats ok because its free? Do you really think they will be releasing tons of new Dynamic events all the time? and even so replayablity.. once you have done them now what?

im not hating just bringing up my concerns and kinda already tired of seeing people make the same mistakes with GW2 they made with SWTOR by building it up to better than Jesus on toast only to be disappointed in the end with a game that cant possibly live up to the hype.