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    Healers not getting enough credit in WZ?

    I find it annoying when I heal for over 300k and still only earn 6 medals if I am lucky. Its to the point where I should just respec, get new pvp gear and start dpsing. It would be nice if they would give healers more credit in WZ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinjinn View Post
    I find it annoying when I heal for over 300k and still only earn 6 medals if I am lucky. Its to the point where I should just respec, get new pvp gear and start dpsing. It would be nice if they would give healers more credit in WZ.
    Generally, its a good idea to keep up to date with upcoming changes before moaning on a forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GallowsZA View Post
    Generally, its a good idea to keep up to date with upcoming changes before moaning on a forum.
    I think what he might be talking about is they're adding 14 new medals in an upcoming patch. Is it 1.2?

    Also, you could always throw around some damage. I know some people don't like to because it's not their playstyle, but it's always an option.

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    Please, i healed 430k in a game with my lvl 35 scoundrel and i got 3 medals for it.
    (and 1 MVP vote, where guy at the top with 6 medals got 4)
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    Quote Originally Posted by grandpab View Post
    I think what he might be talking about is they're adding 14 new medals in an upcoming patch. Is it 1.2?
    Could you possibly link a source? I'd be interested to check it out because I, very much, sympathize with the OP. Most medals are easily beyond healers to acquire and it does seem really unfair, when you consider the fact that tanks and dps players are in much better position to earn more by just simply doing what they do.

    Quote Originally Posted by grandpab View Post
    Also, you could always throw around some damage. I know some people don't like to because it's not their playstyle, but it's always an option.
    The problem is that when I try to go hybrid, I end up doing both jobs really poorly. I've found that, unless the situation is really critical (like ball carrier about to score) or I'm just helping someone finish a guy off, it is best to stick to what I do best, which is healing. My damage for the most part, at least as an operative, is usually pretty low and I feel almost disgusted when I try to hack at an enemy on my own. Their health bars barely register.

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    isnt 6 medals pretty good? i think the most a healer can get is probably 7 depending on the warzone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dannyl View Post
    Could you possibly link a source? I'd be interested to check it out because I, very much, sympathize with the OP. Most medals are easily beyond healers to acquire and it does seem really unfair, when you consider the fact that tanks and dps players are in much better position to earn more by just simply doing what they do.
    The website is down right now, but when it's up this should be the link for it... http://www.swtor.com/blog/community-qa-feb-17th-2012

    This is the direct quote for it, it was part of their last Q&A.

    Gladoss, titdiscus, Leoran: What do you plan to against Warzones’ AFK, more particularly about players who leave Warzones ? Will there be sanctions for this type of behavior?

    Gabe Amatangelo: It is not sanctioned behavior. In Game Update 1.2 we will be making changes to the Warzone rewards system, which will de-incentivize this type of behavior. This will include the removal of the interim bag/quest system, the introduction of the direct purchase of gear from Warzone and Ranked Warzone commendations, 14 new objective-based medals and participation scaling the rewards. Additionally, players will have the option to vote kick idlers. Kicked players will not be able to re-queue for several minutes.

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    As a healer i usually get from 5 to 12 medals depending on matchtime and warzone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grandpab View Post
    The website is down right now, but when it's up this should be the link for it... http://www.swtor.com/blog/community-qa-feb-17th-2012

    This is the direct quote for it, it was part of their last Q&A.
    Thats objective based medals, not healer-based medals.
    So everyone who does the objectives will be able to get them.
    And healers will still be generally 3-6 medals behind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazomir View Post
    Thats objective based medals, not healer-based medals.
    So everyone who does the objectives will be able to get them.
    And healers will still be generally 3-6 medals behind.
    They are not behind, if play properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milla View Post
    They are not behind, if play properly.
    And by properly, he means healers have to dps and kill, i.e. not healing.

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    As a marauder in hutball even if i cap 3ish time trying my best to get win you can end with only 2-3 medals.
    And I totally hate that bg as a melee with no knock bacl very frustrating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannypoos View Post
    As a marauder in hutball even if i cap 3ish time trying my best to get win you can end with only 2-3 medals.
    And I totally hate that bg as a melee with no knock bacl very frustrating.
    Xcept for the fact that you can skip big distances with force charge... little bit offtopic arent we.
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    The medal system does need some work - looking forward to seeing the changes. It rewards hybrid play the most and is on the verge of punishing objective related play (no medal for huttball assists and scores!?!)

    While I spend 80% of my time healing in warzones, as an operative healer I will help focus down targets, especially the huttball carrier in addition to applying slows. I find the occasional hidden strike/backstab combo usually nets me the 2.5k hit medal and I often pick up 10 kills and 1 killing blow too. The majority of the time on my server, people will reward the top healer with a few MVPs so that normally makes up for the lost valor (this is just for 50 wzs tho, I think in 10-49 ppl don't always understand the system).

    I'd like to see 'smart healing' medals - e.g. healing done on the huttball carrier, landing a direct heal on someone <25% health, although it does sound like the new medals will mostly focus around warzone objectives as opposed to healing sadly. I read 14 new medals - makes me think 3-4 per warzone (if you count the one coming in 1.2).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eleu View Post
    I'd like to see 'smart healing' medals - e.g. healing done on the huttball carrier, landing a direct heal on someone <25% health, although it does sound like the new medals will mostly focus around warzone objectives as opposed to healing sadly. I read 14 new medals - makes me think 3-4 per warzone (if you count the one coming in 1.2).
    I agree 100%. It would really nice to see medals that accommodate healers because, despite what some people like to say, if I am there as a healer, I expect to do just that, heal. Not dealing damage, unless really necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinjinn View Post
    I find it annoying when I heal for over 300k and still only earn 6 medals if I am lucky. Its to the point where I should just respec, get new pvp gear and start dpsing. It would be nice if they would give healers more credit in WZ.
    I would agree. I play a tank in WZ and I can easily pull 7-9 medals a game with a healer partner, yet the healer partner get 4-5 for the same game with them hitched to my side. I would say this is a large disparity, and Bioware needs to add more medals for healing or something to compensate a healer.

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    I agree that healers need more medal love.

    As a tank its stupid easy to get 7 medals every time, while a healer will have to work his ass off to get 5. I once saw a vanguard get 10 medals, then 4 mvp votes, with 70k guarded (which is damn impressive) and their main healer (only healer) who did over 350k healing and like 40k dmg walk away with 5 and no votes.

    14 for tank, 5 for healer. Come on...
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    Because healing in TOR is crap. It has no StratEgic element and is boring and dull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lentus View Post
    Because healing in TOR is crap. It has no StratEgic element and is boring and dull.
    Can you elaborate a bit? What is your definition of strategic? You cannot simply spam your biggest heal, you have to use more efficient heals or you will be... well the ToR equivlent of 'oom'.

    I am interested in what you think could improve healing, or why you think it is crap...
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    I'm personally interested in seeing what the new medals they are introducing are for, and what they favour in terms of roles and play style in PvP.

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