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    I really do like it when devs give cohesive logic towards magic and super natural stuff in their game. Hell, even diablo 3 barbs have an explanation for why they can do super human feats. It's poor story telling when they just go "lol they can jump through wallz becuz we seyd so"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roggles View Post
    I really do like it when devs give cohesive logic towards magic and super natural stuff in their game. Hell, even diablo 3 barbs have an explanation for why they can do super human feats. It's poor story telling when they just go "lol they can jump through wallz becuz we seyd so"
    You'll enjoy the D20 setting I'm creating then. Originally was an attempt to convert iron kingdoms 3.5 into pathfinder rule set but...evolved

    I'm hoping to post a base idea in a few weeks (open to everyone who wishes to use it). I place strong emphasis on the physics of the magic

    On topic
    Shouts are just commands or motivational/ demotivational shouts that affect things or self
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glytch View Post
    On topic
    Shouts are just commands or motivational/ demotivational shouts that affect things or self
    I really just can't agree with that.
    I hope you haven't forgotten my role in this little story. I'm the leading man. You know what they say about the leading man? He never dies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durzlla View Post
    Yelling at my dog to make him run 33% faster doesn't work either... nor does it make him tougher/more resilient to damage...

    And find me one person out there where by you yelling at them/singing to them causes their wounds to heal? As far as i'm concerned that's magic, magic, and magic!! Shouts = same magic a bard uses.
    Well since you're a ranger you have a spiritual connection with your pet. Which I would assume lets you communicate with him in ways other people can't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glytch View Post
    then you need to train him more

    shouts arent magic

    period

    i am the loremaster and i have spoken

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    no "shouts" heal, thats all from chants, which are songs and from echos
    http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/%22I%...monster_skill)
    http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/%22Fall_Back!%22
    http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/%22Help_Me!%22
    http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/%22Incoming!%22
    http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/%22Never_Surrender!%22
    http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/%22We_Shall_Return!%22
    http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/%22Victory_Is_Mine!%22

    So... no shouts are magical huh? BULL SHIT if i can rez people by yelling "We Shall Return!" then i'm gonna say there's some magic there... Glytch just admit you're wrong!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeWurrum View Post
    I really just can't agree with that.
    If I shout "watch yourself!" you're going to start paying attention more to incoming attacks, rolling with the blows to minimize damage taken, hence the armor

    That's the basis of shouts

    Also don't take the direct quote as law, 95% of shouts are pop culture so you need to assume the spirit of the shout

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    All of those are regen such as a second wind or heal over time


    Also try to look up morale boost

    And get this out of my thief thread go to the magic thread
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    not all abilities are canonical with the lore. Some are just there for convenience of gameplay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glytch View Post
    If I shout "watch yourself!" you're going to start paying attention more to incoming attacks, rolling with the blows to minimize damage taken, hence the armor

    That's the basis of shouts

    Also don't take the direct quote as law, 95% of shouts are pop culture so you need to assume the spirit of the shout

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    All of those are regen such as a second wind or heal over time


    Also try to look up morale boost

    And get this out of my thief thread go to the magic thread
    bottom one is not regen, we shall return is not regen...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roggles View Post
    not all abilities are canonical with the lore. Some are just there for convenience of gameplay.
    do we have proof of this lol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Durzlla View Post


    do we have proof of this lol?
    Its only a flesh wound
    Tease
    Go for the eyes
    Nothing to fear
    None shall pass
    Can't touch this
    You will die
    Yellow snow

    all of rollerbeetle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Durzlla View Post
    then again i'm pretty sure you're smarter then the average dumbass

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glytch View Post
    Its only a flesh wound
    Tease
    Go for the eyes
    Nothing to fear
    None shall pass
    Can't touch this
    You will die
    Yellow snow

    all of rollerbeetle
    Yeah yeah yeah, that's nice that we know which moves they are, the question was do we have proof that they're not canon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glytch View Post
    If I shout "watch yourself!" you're going to start paying attention more to incoming attacks, rolling with the blows to minimize damage taken, hence the armor
    How do you know I won't just roll my eyes and go "Gawd, I know, dick!"

    Only to result in me missing what I should have been watching for.
    I hope you haven't forgotten my role in this little story. I'm the leading man. You know what they say about the leading man? He never dies.

    If you give in to your impulses in this world, the price is that it changes your personality in the real world. The player and character are one and the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeWurrum View Post
    How do you know I won't just roll my eyes and go "Gawd, I know, dick!"

    Only to result in me missing what I should have been watching for.
    The only correct course of action is to ban warriors in competitive PvP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durzlla View Post
    Yeah yeah yeah, that's nice that we know which moves they are, the question was do we have proof that they're not canon?
    ok look, i've explained it

    you refuse to listen, fine continue thread in magic

    bye

    enjoy being wrong.
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    then again i'm pretty sure you're smarter then the average dumbass

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    Can't decide if I want to use withdraw or hide in shadows for my heal. Both are really good.

    ---------- Post added 2012-06-05 at 02:20 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Glytch View Post
    You'll enjoy the D20 setting I'm creating then. Originally was an attempt to convert iron kingdoms 3.5 into pathfinder rule set but...evolved

    I'm hoping to post a base idea in a few weeks (open to everyone who wishes to use it). I place strong emphasis on the physics of the magic

    On topic
    Shouts are just commands or motivational/ demotivational shouts that affect things or self
    I'm meh towards d20. A lot of the classes have a restricted alignment when they shouldn't. Assassin is an example. Not all assassins are evil. Why do assassins have to be evil yet eldritch fucking knights don't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roggles View Post
    Can't decide if I want to use withdraw or hide in shadows for my heal. Both are really good.

    ---------- Post added 2012-06-05 at 02:20 AM ----------

    I'm meh towards d20. A lot of the classes have a restricted alignment when they shouldn't. Assassin is an example. Not all assassins are evil. Why do assassins have to be evil yet eldritch fucking knights don't?
    thats only 3.5/PF rules, GMs can override that stupid rule anyway (they should) plus even if you do use 3.5 or PF rulesets your setting can tell them to go fuck themselves and assassins are not always evil

    not all d20's are 3.5, pathfinder for example is d20 but not 3.5 (strictly speaking, its actually like... a bazillion times better than 3.5)
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    then again i'm pretty sure you're smarter then the average dumbass

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    hmm, interesting. Will have to try that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roggles View Post
    hmm, interesting. Will have to try that.
    well the PF book states that in golarion (the setting for pathfinder) both assassins and red mantis assassins (not in PF core rulebook) must be evil

    but...fuck golarion. ill make my own setting

    with hookers, and warjacks

    actually... forget the hookers (for now)

    (this is a warjack from iron kingdoms)




    as far as assassins being forced evil... guild wars gets the comparison down PERFECTLY

    rangers are the guardians of nature
    assassins are the guardians of society

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    beta TODO list:

    see how much init signet use gives

    if tooltips are working see if the healing:0 on hide in shadows is increased by +healing and compassion

    post more
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    I just realized that the throwing knife animation is actually fairly accurate to how you actually throw a knife in real life.

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    Am I the only one who doesn't like the lead attacks trait? Just feels like another pointless reason to watch my initiative in an already action oriented game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roggles View Post
    Am I the only one who doesn't like the lead attacks trait? Just feels like another pointless reason to watch my initiative in an already action oriented game.
    im withholding judgement from all traits until i see how messed up everything is
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