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  1. #1781
    I was doing my last 2 skill points with thief in norn area I was level 26 and came across these harpies, that were pretty much 2 shotting me, I had extremly hard time beating them and I could not take more than 1 on at a time. It noticeably became harder than in starter areas... but I also didn't spec right I think - went with power precision, shouldve gove trickery acrobatics now that ive read around..... but I used dual dagger & dual pistol....
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  2. #1782
    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeWurrum View Post
    It wouldn't be any more OP than what other professions are capable of with two weapon sets.
    last time i checked they had cooldown on their skills from 5-30 seconds and we have none.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solidsheep View Post
    last time i checked they had cooldown on their skills from 5-30 seconds and we have none.
    And last I checked they could use all eight of their cooldowns one right after another (and then repeat a few more due to shorter CDs coming back up), while we can barely use 3-4 skills in a row.

    Trade-offs.

    We also have exactly two sources of Daze/Stun. One comes from off-hand Pistol, the other comes specifically from Sword/Pistol. Doing Sword/Pistol and then Pistol/Pistol would still share initiative.
    The Daze from off-hand Pistol lasts for 1 second. The Stun from Sword/Pistol dual skill lasts for 0.25, in the last build we saw.

    Oh, there is a third, but that one requires you to be stealthed first and positioned behind your target.
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  4. #1784
    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeWurrum View Post
    Melee isn't really sub-par if you know how to survive in melee. It's not just dodging and #6.
    For someone like me who has always played a ranged class and will be going thief this time around, can you elaborate more on what i need to "know how to survive in melee" please?
    Humans are the only species on the planet smart enough to be this stupid.

  5. #1785
    Quote Originally Posted by Karazee View Post
    For someone like me who has always played a ranged class and will be going thief this time around, can you elaborate more on what i need to "know how to survive in melee" please?
    Make good use of your stealth skills as well as abilites that allow you to evade.

  6. #1786
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeek Daniels View Post
    Make good use of your stealth skills as well as abilites that allow you to evade.
    What constitutes "good use?" Obviously I know there's no need to defensively stealth if nobody's attacking me, but surely there's something that separates the average player from the truly skilled.
    Humans are the only species on the planet smart enough to be this stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karazee View Post
    For someone like me who has always played a ranged class and will be going thief this time around, can you elaborate more on what i need to "know how to survive in melee" please?
    It involves things like not standing still and paying attention to boss animations.
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  8. #1788
    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeWurrum View Post
    And last I checked they could use all eight of their cooldowns one right after another (and then repeat a few more due to shorter CDs coming back up), while we can barely use 3-4 skills in a row.

    Trade-offs.

    We also have exactly two sources of Daze/Stun. One comes from off-hand Pistol, the other comes specifically from Sword/Pistol. Doing Sword/Pistol and then Pistol/Pistol would still share initiative.
    The Daze from off-hand Pistol lasts for 1 second. The Stun from Sword/Pistol dual skill lasts for 0.25, in the last build we saw.

    Oh, there is a third, but that one requires you to be stealthed first and positioned behind your target.
    Imo I find it quite even, I don't feel other classes have advantage over me because they can swap to a weapon be able to use all 5 skills right away. I feel that we have plenty of options and tools to keep our initiative up that makes up for not having cooldowns on are skills and using a initiative resource mechanic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeWurrum View Post
    It involves things like not standing still and paying attention to boss animations.
    Also gonna add to drake's said, don't feel that because your playing a Thief you have to be in melee rage 100% of the time. Your gonna come across time's where you just wont be able to be in melee and you will need to step back and start using range abilities or running around a rezzing people.

  9. #1789
    so what did they do to sword/dagger

    last i checked it was crap cuz of flanking strike but it seems like more people are talking about it now and it sounds like they did somethin to make it better

    i was thinkin about goin sword/pistol but i dont like the root effect that pistol whip gives you so i was lookin at sword/dagger lately

  10. #1790
    I liked flanking stike, I used it as another evade and that is what a Thief is all about. Don't play it like a warrior.

  11. #1791
    So first time really trying a thief during this stress test. Infiltrators Arrow doesn't work if theres an elevation increase? I tried it over every little hill and ledge I came up to and it works fine going down but not up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balfire View Post
    So first time really trying a thief during this stress test. Infiltrators Arrow doesn't work if theres an elevation increase? I tried it over every little hill and ledge I came up to and it works fine going down but not up.
    there where some issues similar to this with scorp wire

    report it as a bug and try and see if it happens to shadow step
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  13. #1793
    WOW poison Thieves are amazing never had so much fun.

  14. #1794
    wow MH sword is pretty amazing, I liked it before but I love it even more now. It's like the single trolliest weapon I've ever used.

    You can teleport through walls and break stuns with the 2 skill. I was participating in multiple fights just teleporting back and forth whenever some1 targeted me. And even if you use the 2 skill then weapon swap you can still use the same return point (which is good and bad in some ways).
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  15. #1795
    Sylvari special, entangled wines or whatever it is - is it bugged or something. I know it is suppose to root the single target to the ground. But it kinda like has delay, by the time it emerges, player usually is long gone from that spot and never gets rooted thus.... am I misunderstanding here something?

    edit: its called Grasping Wines
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  16. #1796
    Was pretty good stress test and tried so many new stuff with my thief...PVP wise ofcouse...

    Tried sword+dagger combo, feels weird....Agains melee it is good because of flanking with skill and crazy mobility, BUT lower damage compare to dagger/dagger backstab style -> when in stealth with dagger, you do massive damage with backstab, but with sword, you just daze enemy....

    Next was short bow as second weapon...god weapon if you find yourself on cliff agains multiple enemies clusted up... spam hell out of bomb with poison and watch them die....BUT as finishing weapon, damage is low and playstyle is more like hit and run or hit and kite....

    Poison playstyle wise, it was blast compare to heavy backstab for damage style -> this one
    going in combat with spider poison (2 might) stunning your enemy with basillisk poison on first hit (another 2 might) and quick cloak and dagger for backstab is pretty good opener for hefty damage...

    In all and all, thief is so good to play, meeting with so many enemy thief, watching their different playstyle and outsmarting enemies, have to say GW2 is must buy for me....

  17. #1797
    Got some nice glory10 items thought I would share them.

  18. #1798
    Loved the Bayonets on my thief ( left picture). Such massive daggers, they looked like slightly shorter swords.
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  19. #1799
    Quote Originally Posted by PonyCannon View Post
    Loved the Bayonets on my thief ( left picture). Such massive daggers, they looked like slightly shorter swords.
    Was so happy to see they had giant daggers, like some other games. Loved the way it looks on my Thief :P Also had a cool pistol looked like deathray, but i destroyed it last stress test thinking we would not have another one.

  20. #1800
    What kind of builds were you guys running this stress test? I was playing a sword/dagger + sword/pistol build in pvp. Actually had no survivability issues due to the nature of swords on a thief (teleporting through walls and shit). I wasn't sure about it but it seemed like the sword 2 skill doesn't share a teleport anymore. The ability seemed to reset on swap.
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