1. #481
    So Mesmers got a bitch of an update!

    http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mesmer_skills

    Shatter

    Distortion - replaced reflection, now grants you 1 second of distortion (which evades all attacks) for each clone shattered.
    Diversion - replaced stun, now dazes foes

    Greatsword

    Mirrored blade - Replaced feigned escape, now sends an illusionary sword that bounces between targets that gives vulnerability to foes and might to allies.

    Staff

    Winds of Chaos - Replaced spam attack 1, has no cooldown and same effect it did before
    Feigned escape - Was once a greatsword skill now a staff skill! It replaced the old summon a clone that inflicts conditions, now its roll back and summon a clone that inflicts conditions!
    Chaos armor - Replaced old winds of chaos, whenever you are struck you gain a boon and inflict a condition to the foe.

    Scepter

    Counter Spell - New chain attack with illusionary counter, after illusionary counter use counter spell to blind the foe. Only available if illusionary counter fails.

    Sword (Prepared to be blown!)

    Blurred Frenzy - Replaced old leap (summon a clone to leap at your target), now sends out a flurry of attacks (channeled) while channeled you evade all attacks.
    Swap - New chain attack after using new leap (leap at your target summoning a clone at the old location) now switches places with you and the summon clone!

    New Traits:

    Domination
    Cleansing conflagration - Torch skills now remove conditions
    Glamours(?!?!) confuse foes that enter and exit its area
    Harmonious Mantras - Mantras can be used twice before having to recharge
    Shattered concentration - Shatters now remove boons

    Dueling

    Blurred inscriptions - Using a signet gives 1 second of evading
    Far-reaching Manipulations - The range of your manipulation(?!?!?!) skills is increased
    Furious interruption - Gain 3 seconds of fury when you interrupt a foe
    Mantra mastery - Recharge on mantras is reduced by 20%
    Sharper Images - Illusions cause bleeds on critical hits

    Chaos

    Bountiful Interruption - Gain a boon when you interrupt an enemy
    Chaotic Interruption - When you interrupt an enemy they gain a condition
    Chaotic Revival - Gain 5 seconds of Chaos Armor when you rally.
    Cleansing Inscriptions - Activating a signet removes a condition.
    Illusionary Defense - 3% reduced damage for each illusion you have in the world.
    Master of Manipulation - Manipulation skills have 20% shorter recharges.

    Inspiration

    Glamour Mastery - Recharge for Glamour skills is 20% faster.
    Malicious Sorcery -+50 Malice when wielding a scepter.
    Medic's Feedback - Create a Feedback bubble while reviving an ally.
    Mender's Purity - Remove a condition when you heal.
    Shattered Conditions - Using a Shatter skill removes a condition from you.
    Temporal Enchanter - Your Glamour skills last longer.
    Warden's Feedback - Focus skills reflect projectiles.

    Illusions

    Blinding Befuddlement - Cause confusion when you blind an enemy.
    Compounding Power - +3% extra damage for each illusion you have created.
    Dazzling Glamours - Blind foes at target location when you execute a Glamour skill.
    Illusionary Elasticity - Bouncing attacks bounce an additional time.
    Illusionary Invigoration - Recharge all of your Shatters at 50% health. (90 second cooldown)
    Illusionary Persona - When Shattering illusions cause the shatter effect on yourself as well.
    Imbued Diversion - Diversion hits multiple targets.
    Masterful Reflection - Distortion (F4) also grants reflection.

    So the big question is, wtf is a glamour and what counts as a manipulation skill?
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  2. #482
    Quote Originally Posted by zito View Post
    So the big question is, wtf is a glamour and what counts as a manipulation skill?
    Was wondering the same thing.

    Love the changes, skills that do something more than just summon illusions are a great direction. More of that please.

  3. #483
    What's good about the changes is they actually sat down and said about the mesmer:

    "Ok what the hell was stupidly redundant and how do we change it"

    Sword was probably the biggest piece of crap in terms of weapons but now it is just amazing.

    Staff also lacked some escape mechanic, turning the just a clone into a dodge roll clone was a good move, a long with the spam attack.

    HOWEVER


    There are still some stupid glaring issues:

    -Clone spawning time is still slloooowwwwwwwww, takes like 3 seconds, you are not confusing someone when it takes that long to summon up the thing you use to confuse
    -We still don't know if summoning a clone drops the target
    -We don't know if they changed per-cloning to where you can actually.... pre-clone....
    -Still nobody tested mantras (OMFG RLLY, pissing me off). First thing I god damn do in aprils beta.... TEST THE DAMN MANTRAS
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  4. #484
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    Not sure if I like the new Distortion. Will it immediately blow up all the illusions, or will the illusions run in, explode for damage, and then you get Distortion?

    Preferred the old version.
    I hope you haven't forgotten my role in this little story. I'm the leading man. You know what they say about the leading man? He never dies.

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  5. #485
    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeWurrum View Post
    Not sure if I like the new Distortion. Will it immediately blow up all the illusions, or will the illusions run in, explode for damage, and then you get Distortion?

    Preferred the old version.
    The choice in this matter is, do you want damage or do you want to freaken live? That's why there is 4 shatters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zito View Post
    The choice in this matter is, do you want damage or do you want to freaken live? That's why there is 4 shatters.
    I get their reason for doing it...

    It just seems an odd way to go. Your illusions practically EXPLODE... and somehow that causes you to gain a defensive boost.

    Saywha?!

    It could be argued that stunning them isn't different enough from dazing them.
    What about a knockback? Or a fear?

    Hell, if they wanted to keep it defense-oriented, the fourth one should apply weakness. Which would, however, call for a shorter CD.
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    If you give into your impulses in this world, the price is that it changes your personality in the real world. The player and character are one and the same.

  7. #487
    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeWurrum View Post
    I get their reason for doing it...

    It just seems an odd way to go. Your illusions practically EXPLODE... and somehow that causes you to gain a defensive boost.

    Saywha?!
    It's not exploding in terms of big gang boom, its like shattering a mirror. You shatter a mirror, it surrounds you and it... distorts your image..?

    Look what happens when you get technical.
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  8. #488
    Quote Originally Posted by zito View Post
    Sword was probably the biggest piece of crap in terms of weapons but now it is just amazing.
    Yeah, but now I cant decide between a sword of scepter. Pistol as off-hand is a must.
    Quote Originally Posted by zito View Post
    -Still nobody tested mantras (OMFG RLLY, pissing me off). First thing I god damn do in aprils beta.... TEST THE DAMN MANTRAS
    I'm taking your word for it, if you get in before me, I expect e-mail with some details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zito View Post
    It's not exploding in terms of big gang boom, its like shattering a mirror. You shatter a mirror, it surrounds you and it... distorts your image..?

    Look what happens when you get technical.
    It just seems too offensive of a move for defense to work in that manner. It would make more sense, to me, if maybe... you applied Weakness or Blind (especially Blind). That can be seen as a defensive move, just applied through a condition.

    What I'm getting at is, you're supposed to be fucking with their mind. Yes, you're creating a distortion around yourself, I get that... but doesn't it seem more "mind-fucking" to blind them?
    I hope you haven't forgotten my role in this little story. I'm the leading man. You know what they say about the leading man? He never dies.

    If you give into your impulses in this world, the price is that it changes your personality in the real world. The player and character are one and the same.

  10. #490
    Quote Originally Posted by Eternal Champion View Post
    Yeah, but now I cant decide between a sword of scepter. Pistol as off-hand is a must.


    I'm taking your word for it, if you get in before me, I expect e-mail with some details.
    With the new leap, pistol will play extremely well with the sword. But you are sacraficing some survivability by going pistol, so you should pick up more surv moves from 7-9

    I'll be pre-purchasing like everyone else so yea I'll be in next beta :x Unless they pull a blizzard

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeWurrum View Post
    It just seems too offensive of a move for defense to work in that manner. It would make more sense, to me, if maybe... you applied Weakness or Blind (especially Blind). That can be seen as a defensive move, just applied through a condition.
    I'm not understanding your logic... are you saying shattering something is too offensive for you to see it as defensive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zito View Post
    I'm not understanding your logic... are you saying shattering something is too offensive for you to see it as defensive?
    I guess I just don't see the Mesmer in general as using defensive moves of that nature, but with this particular mechanic it feels off to me.

    Doesn't it make more sense to do something to their brain directly with these moves, rather than apply some magical distortion about you?
    I hope you haven't forgotten my role in this little story. I'm the leading man. You know what they say about the leading man? He never dies.

    If you give into your impulses in this world, the price is that it changes your personality in the real world. The player and character are one and the same.

  12. #492
    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeWurrum View Post
    I guess I just don't see the Mesmer in general as using defensive moves of that nature, but with this particular mechanic it feels off to me.

    Doesn't it make more sense to do something to their brain directly with these moves, rather than apply some magical distortion about you?
    Shattering a clone or phantasm is like breaking a mirror as seen in videos. It creates fragments in the very space itself that cause distortion in the area.

    That distortion can either by you some time (evade), cause harm to enemy's with its... pointy fragments (wreck), cause mental confusion or hinder a certain move.

    Makes sense to me. Though talking about space....
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    I see what you're getting at, it just bothers me. I think Blinding enemies brings about the same defensive boost, while still following with the idea that the Mesmer is messing with their heads directly. After all, the illusions exist only in the head of the person you cast it on.

    It might just be OCD tendencies niggling at me. "ONE OF THESE DOES NOT BELONG!"
    I hope you haven't forgotten my role in this little story. I'm the leading man. You know what they say about the leading man? He never dies.

    If you give into your impulses in this world, the price is that it changes your personality in the real world. The player and character are one and the same.

  14. #494
    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeWurrum View Post
    I see what you're getting at, it just bothers me. I think Blinding enemies brings about the same defensive boost, while still following with the idea that the Mesmer is messing with their heads directly. After all, the illusions exist only in the head of the person you cast it on.

    It might just be OCD tendencies niggling at me. "ONE OF THESE DOES NOT BELONG!"
    However people can launch more then one attack in 3 seconds. Things like aoe or fast casting, or pets, etc will launch off more attacks then blind can handle.

    Also this is the same as the old reflection shatter, except its now called distortion.

    I'll fix the first post
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  15. #495
    Distortion in time and space. This is why I love the Mesmer.

  16. #496
    Quote Originally Posted by Eternal Champion View Post
    Distortion in time and space. This is why I love the Mesmer.
    Your ranger sig irks me.

    BEGONE BETRAYER
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  17. #497
    Quote Originally Posted by zito View Post
    Your ranger sig irks me.

    BEGONE BETRAYER
    I refuse.

    But in all seriousness, I'm hoping professions in GW2 will actually be fun and able to hold you for a long time. Not like in WoW, where everyone played everything.

  18. #498
    Quote Originally Posted by Eternal Champion View Post
    But in all seriousness, I'm hoping professions in GW2 will actually be fun and able to hold you for a long time. Not like in WoW, where everyone played everything.
    On the contrary. I hope all GW2 professions will be fun so you'll want to try everything. And so far it's shaping up to be

  19. #499
    Quote Originally Posted by Eternal Champion View Post
    I refuse.

    But in all seriousness, I'm hoping professions in GW2 will actually be fun and able to hold you for a long time. Not like in WoW, where everyone played everything.
    WoW can't make the classes too interesting because nobody would play an alt. For some reason that's their thing where you are bored you make an alt and play the same content you did.... before...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eternal Champion View Post
    I refuse.

    But in all seriousness, I'm hoping professions in GW2 will actually be fun and able to hold you for a long time. Not like in WoW, where everyone played everything.
    Everyone will still play everything.
    I hope you haven't forgotten my role in this little story. I'm the leading man. You know what they say about the leading man? He never dies.

    If you give into your impulses in this world, the price is that it changes your personality in the real world. The player and character are one and the same.

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