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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by nektar View Post
    Some things I want to point out:

    - You can't make an assassin and start in nightfall, you need to start in factions instead. In order for you to get access to nightfall with your assa you need to get to kaineng city, which requires you to finish the first 2 missions of factions.

    - EoTN can be very challenging for new players, so be warned.

    - I suggest you try to get 2 of the 3 necromancer heroes asap. You can do this by doing 2 of the following: the whole Asura questline in EoTN (challenging for new players), short quest in Lions arch (very easy) or 1/3 of the nightfall campaign (easy but time consuming).

    - I highly suggest you pick up the ritualist from the norn fighting tournament. You can do this at the beginning of EoTN. All you need to do is defeat her in the tournament and she joins your group. Your opponent in the tournament is always picked at random, so you won't always get a chance to fight her. Luckily she can only appear in round 2 so all you have to do is defeat the 1st opponent and see who the 2nd one is. If it's her, defeat her, if not just use your map to teleport out and rejoin the tournament.
    Ah I see. Thanks a lot ! I thought that classes available in one campaign were also available in subsequent campaigns as starter toons. So I'll have to reorganize this so as to be able to start with Factions. Gonna see what I can do. Any comments on the lore aspect ? Can I start in any order and still experience the entire lore with no spoilers/mess ?

    ---------- Post added 2012-02-28 at 11:36 AM ----------

    What do you guys think about this :

    Factions -> Unlock EotN
    Complete EotN
    Complete Nightfall
    Go back to Factions and complete it
    Complete Prophecies
    Start Guild Wars Beyond

    There are two little details that I need to clear up with this plan :

    1) When I unlock EotN from Factions, would it automatically mean that I would have also unlocked Nightfall ? Or do I need to quest more ? I want to start Nightfall right after EotN.

    2) There is that "Go back to Factions" that is still a little confusing to me. Should I just write down the last quest I did in Factions before starting EotN and go back to pick up the follow up when I come back to Factions, or is it more involved ?
    Last edited by DrunkenBeard; 2012-02-28 at 11:38 AM.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenBeard View Post
    Ah I see. Thanks a lot ! I thought that classes available in one campaign were also available in subsequent campaigns as starter toons. So I'll have to reorganize this so as to be able to start with Factions. Gonna see what I can do. Any comments on the lore aspect ? Can I start in any order and still experience the entire lore with no spoilers/mess ?

    ---------- Post added 2012-02-28 at 11:36 AM ----------

    What do you guys think about this :

    Factions -> Unlock EotN
    Complete EotN
    Complete Nightfall
    Go back to Factions and complete it
    Complete Prophecies
    Start Guild Wars Beyond

    There are two little details that I need to clear up with this plan :

    1) When I unlock EotN from Factions, would it automatically mean that I would have also unlocked Nightfall ? Or do I need to quest more ? I want to start Nightfall right after EotN.

    2) There is that "Go back to Factions" that is still a little confusing to me. Should I just write down the last quest I did in Factions before starting EotN and go back to pick up the follow up when I come back to Factions, or is it more involved ?
    I don't know enough of the progression with GW1, so I will just follow your lead.
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  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenBeard View Post
    Aside from the tutorial zones of Factions and Prophecies, would I miss anything by doing things in this order ? Also, does this order mess up continuity ? (No spoilers ! O_O)
    It goes in this order Prophecies-> Factions-> Nightfall-> Eye of the north. I would recommend starting prophecies if you want to learn story. I suppose it doesn't matter much lore vice if you play factions before prophecies, but I highly recommend not going to EOTN or finishing nightfall before finishing these 2 campaigns. Specially EOTN will give you quite big spoiler very early on it if you didn't play prophecies first.

    Prophecies is also one that got slowest learning curve so it give you time to learn the game where other campaigns got very quick learning curve and give you heroes and you most likely don't have skills for them. You can do prophecies missions just fine with henchmen and wiki have good details of what skills they bring so you can pick the ones which support your profession best (example). Also I would recommend guild if you feel you need help learning the game or get stuck on some harder missions. You can find some of these here http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Category:Guilds like here is one list http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Category:Notable_guilds (not all active) got quite few good guilds you could join, there is also recruitment forum on gwguru that get posts frequently.

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenBeard View Post
    Ah I see. Thanks a lot ! I thought that classes available in one campaign were also available in subsequent campaigns as starter toons. So I'll have to reorganize this so as to be able to start with Factions. Gonna see what I can do. Any comments on the lore aspect ? Can I start in any order and still experience the entire lore with no spoilers/mess ?
    There are some spoilers if you play the campaigns out of order. Some quests and missions in nightfall make references to events in prophesies and factions, EoTN makes references to prophesies. Guild Wars beyond is basically an extension of the story of all previous campaigns, so I would definitely play that one last.

    If you definitely don't want any spoilers you need to play them in this order: prophesies (or factions) -> factions (or prophesies) -> nightfall (or eye of the north) -> eye of the north (or nightfall) -> guild wars beyond.

  5. #25
    Thanks a lot leipuri, that was very informative. I guess I'm just going to do it this way :

    Factions
    Prophecies
    Nightfall
    EotN

    Hopefully there are no spoilers if I do it in this orders. The only potential spoilers would be when going from Factions to Prophecies, are there any ?

    EDIT : Just saw your post nektar. So you confirm that I can go Factions before Prophecies ? That's great I'll decide between EotN and Nightfall later.
    Last edited by DrunkenBeard; 2012-02-28 at 11:54 AM.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenBeard View Post
    Thanks a lot leipuri, that was very informative. I guess I'm just going to do it this way :

    Factions
    Prophecies
    Nightfall
    EotN

    Hopefully there are no spoilers if I do it in this orders. The only potential spoilers would be when going from Factions to Prophecies, are there any ?

    EDIT : Just saw your post nektar. So you confirm that I can go Factions before Prophecies ? That's great I'll decide between EotN and Nightfall later.
    As far as I know I don't think there are any spoilers to proph in factions, but you want to be on the really really really safe side play them in the order that leipuri suggested.

  7. #27
    Problem with that nektar is I can't go Assassin. Unless ... I start a Factions character and go Prophecies at the first chance I get, then go back to Factions when I'm done with Proph.

  8. #28
    I honestly don't remember a single prophesies reference in factions. While there are characters from prophesies in factions they don't mention any of the events of the first campaign. Play factions first, there are no assassin skills available in prophesies and that would make playing one there really boring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenBeard View Post
    What do you guys think about this :

    Factions -> Unlock EotN
    Complete EotN
    Complete Nightfall
    Go back to Factions and complete it
    Complete Prophecies
    Start Guild Wars Beyond
    If you play for lore reasons you are doing it way out of the timeline and a few things won't make any sense to you if you do it that way (like one of the last Nightfall missions involves bosses from Prophecies and Factions).

    The only reason you should do it as you suggest would be for ease of play (getting heroes and such).

    The timeline in GW is (using the Mouvelian calendar)

    1070 Prophecies turorial
    1071 Prophecies Campaign
    1072 Factions Campaign
    1075 Nightfall Campaign
    1078 EotN expansion
    1079 Guild Wars Beyond

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Maklor View Post
    If you play for lore reasons you are doing it way out of the timeline and a few things won't make any sense to you if you do it that way (like one of the last Nightfall missions involves bosses from Prophecies and Factions).

    The only reason you should do it as you suggest would be for ease of play (getting heroes and such).

    The timeline in GW is (using the Mouvelian calendar)

    1070 Prophecies turorial
    1071 Prophecies Campaign
    1072 Factions Campaign
    1075 Nightfall Campaign
    1078 EotN expansion
    1079 Guild Wars Beyond
    Thanks for the Timeline As much as I want to start with Prophecies (I really do), I also want to play an Assassin. So it's either one or the other, and right now I think I'm going with the Assassin as long as jumping from Factions to Prophecies doesn't have any spoilers. I'll just treat Prophecies as sort of a Caevrns of Time when I get to it.

  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenBeard View Post
    Thanks for the Timeline As much as I want to start with Prophecies (I really do), I also want to play an Assassin. So it's either one or the other, and right now I think I'm going with the Assassin as long as jumping from Factions to Prophecies doesn't have any spoilers. I'll just treat Prophecies as sort of a Caevrns of Time when I get to it.
    I don't really care about learning the lore from the game, I hardly learned any of the lore from Warcraft by playing the game. I learned most of it by finding an interesting character and going to their wiki and going for topic to topic to character to event and learned most of it that way. Unless there wa sa special event like the Firelands one. If I want to learn most of the lore I will learn it by doing the same way. :P

    So again, I'll be following your pace in the game, doesn't matter to me what path you want to start in~
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  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Maklor View Post
    If you play for lore reasons you are doing it way out of the timeline and a few things won't make any sense to you if you do it that way (like one of the last Nightfall missions involves bosses from Prophecies and Factions).

    The only reason you should do it as you suggest would be for ease of play (getting heroes and such).

    The timeline in GW is (using the Mouvelian calendar)

    1070 Prophecies turorial
    1071 Prophecies Campaign
    1072 Factions Campaign
    1075 Nightfall Campaign
    1078 EotN expansion
    1079 Guild Wars Beyond
    I surprised by the gap between the factions and nightfall campaign. For example when you finish Istan (the starting island) there is a quest in which Menlo recruits you to join the fight against the Afflicted, thereby allowing you to travel to Cantha. I always thought that the events in factions and nightfall occurred more or less simultaneously and that the one in Cantha ends earlier (for obvious reasons).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allanon the Mystic View Post
    I don't really care about learning the lore from the game, I hardly learned any of the lore from Warcraft by playing the game. I learned most of it by finding an interesting character and going to their wiki and going for topic to topic to character to event and learned most of it that way. Unless there wa sa special event like the Firelands one. If I want to learn most of the lore I will learn it by doing the same way. :P

    So again, I'll be following your pace in the game, doesn't matter to me what path you want to start in~
    This is kinda BS, that applies to WoW not to GW AT ALL the main difference is you pretty much forced to play the story so will get the lore by doing missions.

    @drunkenbeard
    Swapping Factions and Prophecies won't make much of a difference, the only real common thing between those two are some of the storyline related henchmen that you get in Prophecies.

    Do not however play Nightfall/EotN until you are done with the other two.

    Quote Originally Posted by nektar View Post
    I surprised by the gap between the factions and nightfall campaign. For example when you finish Istan (the starting island) there is a quest in which Menlo recruits you to join the fight against the Afflicted, thereby allowing you to travel to Cantha. I always thought that the events in factions and nightfall occurred more or less simultaneously and that the one in Cantha ends earlier (for obvious reasons).
    As I recall that quest actually says you are going back in time, not the actually quest text but some text on the screen will say something like "you are witnessing past events" or something like that.
    Last edited by Maklor; 2012-02-28 at 02:45 PM.

  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Maklor View Post
    This is kinda BS, that applies to WoW not to GW AT ALL the main difference is you pretty much forced to play the story so will get the lore by doing missions.
    I don't see how it's BS at all, leveling up I didn't learn a lot of lore in game, so after a while I just rushed to max.
    And I personally don't see in taking my sweet time in GW1 atm to learn all the lore since I am more interested in getting the HoM before beta/release.

    Yes, I am interested in the lore, I just don't see myself having the time to learn it in game, and will most likely learn most of it from their wiki or once I buy the books.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allanon the Mystic View Post
    I don't see how it's BS at all, leveling up I didn't learn a lot of lore in game, so after a while I just rushed to max.
    And I personally don't see in taking my sweet time in GW1 atm to learn all the lore since I am more interested in getting the HoM before beta/release.
    The thing is this thread isn't about what YOU think, I believe the OP was interested in the lore.

  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Maklor View Post
    As I recall that quest actually says you are going back in time, not the actually quest text but some text on the screen will say something like "you are witnessing past events" or something like that.
    Ah, that explains it, must have forgotten that. It's been such a long time since I had to do that quest.

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Maklor View Post
    The thing is this thread isn't about what YOU think, I believe the OP was interested in the lore.
    And I SAID that I will follow along with HIS pace, but my opinion is that I don't care what HE does, since I will just be following and playing along. We are leveling together in case you didn't read the whole thread :x
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