How can you see something that dosen't exists?
The world is only build up around what you can register with your sense.
And ofc that so called sixth sense, sensing, thought i have my doubts about that one.
So everthing you can't see, hear, smell, taste or touch, dosen't exist. SIMPLE!!!!
So much arrogant people on this thread. mostly reason i dont hang out here and talking about ghost is because most of the comunity are hurr durr do no exist -.-
I like the subject of Paranormal and mythology and aliens. yes am a dude, deal with it!
Kenjinitari, we have more then just 5 senses, its been proven by fact link from cracked: http://www.cracked.com/article_19296...dergarten.html
Sure i cannot prove they exist, and schientist have come with sugjestion about particle from either space reflect ghost.
My Aunt and Uncle was ones at a new apartment they just bought, when they were going to sleep there for the first time, my uncle woke up one night and see`s a man standing besides their bed. Uncle rises up from the bed and got into fighting position while my aunt screamed. however the Man simply vanish from thin air. later that night they both talked to eachother about what they saw, they both said the same, a man standing by the bed. they spoke to the previous owners and found out that there was a decreased man that used to live there.
but i gotta agree with the sceptics about 1 thing. 90% of all UFO and Ghost videos of the Internet are bullshit. same with the picture, some have dust particle or raindrop at the photo. there are only few clips ive seen i think are amazing
this is one that i think are nice. 0.16 at Disney
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furthermore there is absolutely zero evidence outside of anecdotal evidence that suggests ghosts exist.
the only hurr durr is coming from people who have to believe in their possibility.
Again, you only see "ghosts" because you want to see them. I only see funny effect that could be caused by dozens of different things much more plausible than "a dead person walking around as a misty shape".this is one that i think are nice. 0.16 at Disney
Uncertain, I do not believe it was a ghost but another, "paranormal" being.
My main experience has been with missing objects having a miraculous reappearance in an emergency (an insulin kit (with sugar pills) left 100 miles away suddenly reappearing in your lap when a diabetic's blood sugar is at 20 for instance (about to go into a coma). Twice in life or death scenarios there has been results that were just unexplainable.
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There are no "ifs", "buts" or "maybes". We can NOT measure their communication, all we can say is that the noise is there. Until we quantify it (which we can't), we're going off guesswork. If that's what passes for science these days, I worry for the future.
Here is why you believe what you do, and why you think it's correct:
Science explains everything that exists.
Science doesn't explain ghosts.
Therefore, ghosts don't exist.
At first pass, that looks great - perfectly logical. Except for the fact that both premises have to be accurate before the conclusion can be considered necessarily correct and, in this case, they're not. Science does not explain everything that exists, meaning the conclusion is false straight off the bat.
Now you can snide and sneer, or "find amusement" in whatever you like - I honestly don't mind. But what you clearly can't do is shift out of your little box of duality and accept things that are logically self-evident. For you, every single post you've made, boils down to this:
Either you can scientifically prove something, or it doesn't exist.
Any erudite person knows that there is very little difference in your position to that of a Christian fundamentalist. You "believe" something to be true (despite overwhelming volumes of evidence to the contrary) so anything that doesn't conform can't be right.
At a guess, you're not far out of college. Once you've gotten involved in paranormal research of any kind, you'll find that your basis of "real" and "impossible" changes quite remarkably.
Good luck getting that through any logical scrutiny.
The fact you're still sticking to ugly terms like "speaking" means you really don't get the point at all.
Almost funny, because it's actually a bit tragic.
For my money, it was a convoluted attempt by their father to reinvigorate a fading congregation. My only disagreement with you lies in your dismissal of phenomena without a full grasp of what occurred (which I don't have either, incidentally).
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These are not paranormal, but are very interesting avenues of research.
i mean shit dude, I really could make a simple movie like that in photoshop. It's not difficult. there's a reason why every bit of 'evidence' has been nothing more than 'footage' from shitty cameras. because shitty cameras are faulty, because rigging a film is easy, and because there IS NO SUCH THING AS GHOSTS.
seriously dude, i dont know what point that mindless dribble was supposed to make but pick up a fucking physics book. explain how something can consist of no detectable matter but can still be seen and heard and somehow move intangibly through objects and defy the laws of gravity whilst still complying with them.
I say it is a matter of definition. What if we define word "ghost" mean just a human shaped halucination that people often see in same general area? Notice how I didn't say anything that sceptics couldn't agree (I think).there IS NO SUCH THING AS GHOSTS.
Why can't this discussion be objectively about something like that. I'm often sceptic about lot of things, but I did see something. Lets say it was a generally human shaped halucination then. I didn't hear any noises or anything, but those are also attributed to "ghosts" often so just term "halucination" isnt enough.
When talking about ghosts people immediately have their own ideas about it. I do not believe its a dead person or anything. But why do they apear in same areas and people tend to see/hear same things. Not to mention some weirder things that HAVE been recored on video (not talking about light spots or anything...thats dust or bugs). What is it for real? People are bashing it down immediately a discussion is started about it so it never gets anywhere.
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I get tired of people thinking that every time they experience something they do not understand, it's something spiritual or ghostly. See where I'm going with it? As a scientist, I do not believe I know or understand everything, I just have never experienced ghosts, nor seen properly documented events of them, thus I do not believe. If you came to me and asked; Would you believe in creatures who aren't like us in any way, that could perhaps act like ghosts, exists on other planets in the universe, I'd be more with you. But currently on Earth, I just don't see any reason to believe them existing here.
no, all instances of "ghost" activity have been possible to prove wrong. my GF believes in them but i definitely don't.
there is other reasons why it accurate, many, and im not gonna discuss them all now.
one is hallucination, from different reasons. like when your very sick, or VERY tired, or also wishful thinking can course hallucination
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I find it amazing that you accuse me of holding a double standard when you do this yourself. I say because we cannot measure anything related to ghosts then there is no evidence of their existance. You say oh, but theres a lot of things we cant measure and go on about your dolphins. And then you say you measured something which cant be ghosts since you just said they arent measurable and if they are then why dont they hold up to scrutiny
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As for myself, I cannot make an absolute statement, either way. Why?
To do so, I would have to be able to rely on any related constant that cannot be altered. But such does not exist.
So I cannot say Ghosts do not exist. Simply for the reason that I would lack proof. To base such statement on physics is short sighted. Simply for the fact that both, the laws of physics and physical law have changed or altered equally to mankind's progress.
For the same reasons I cannot say Ghosts do exist. I'd lack the same points.
In overall, no absolute statement can be made, as of now. Both sides can only say "I believe"...
For what we do know, and evidence for it exists plentyful, there are unsolved mysteries, and unexplained phenomena.
Our intellectual evolution should have taught everyone to NOT deny, even less refuse anything, Rather strive to solve the unknown.
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Those damn socks.. There MUST be a socks universe. I guess everyone believes that. hehe
The one i refer to is when you are making a movie clip and put the same background on top of the other but turn up the transparancy so you can make it look like a shadow following someone while its just a normal person - I used this technique when i was making a movie where we were trying to show a person being a paranoid schizophrenic