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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbamboozal View Post
    ahahha wow, you're not too bright are you? Where'd she get it?
    Now your being rude.

    I know where she got it from. What is your point, does it matter if she got it from her mother or father?

    Stop being silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbamboozal View Post
    ahahha wow, you're not too bright are you? Where'd she get it?
    Statistically speaking, if you look at English history and the roles of genders going back hundreds of years and apply the concept that last names for people who are not royalty come from professions and family traits..... Harry Potter's name came from a woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasierith View Post
    Allow me to ask again. Give a logical, rational response saying why the baby should be named after the father. I have given you my opinion on your rants already.



    Not at all. I am addressing a specific point in your argument, ie that names come from the father. The original source of your last name has nothing to do with your gender.
    b/c we are ALL named after our fathers.
    So unless you HAVE to be in bizarro backwards land all the time....
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    Quote Originally Posted by semaphore View Post
    Because I think it's an extremly bad reason. If you don't like the fact that I think it's a bad reason, tough.[COLOR="red"]
    And yet it IS a reason, and also the norm for our society. If you don't like it, tough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasierith View Post
    Statistically speaking, if you look at English history and the roles of genders going back hundreds of years and apply the concept that last names for people who are not royalty come from professions and family traits..... Harry Potter's name came from a woman.
    Nice, and only a slice of the picture, before they were english they were?
    And back then names came from?
    Follow it, you want to go historical, ok, but go back all the way. Don;t pick up in the middle and use it without the context of the rest of history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purlina View Post
    Now your being rude.

    I know where she got it from. What is your point, does it matter if she got it from her mother or father?

    Stop being silly.
    No, that is the correct response for an obvious trolling-esk post. If you got your name from your mother, she got it from her father, that means it's yet again a MAN's name, so she dressed it two-fold in bs to have a lol at me, and I just kept on. Rude is replying without spending the time to actually read the previous posts and have a clue.

    ANYWAYS, leaving this sad excuse for a thread for a thread with less self-fapping feministic misogynists who claim to understand all about children and such, though they clearly would never have them, especially with a MAN yuck! Some people need to stop doing everything backwards to reality just for the point of continuing to be unhappy in life anyhow.)

    OP, I stand by my first reply. If she needs to hold her FATHERS name over your own, it's not due to the child.
    Just be a good Dad, let the rest sort itself out, it will, I promise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbamboozal View Post
    b/c we are ALL named after our fathers.
    So unless you HAVE to be in bizarro backwards land all the time....
    Alright than, I'll play along. So what if the mother's last name comes from her father? In that case.... by taking her name, the child's name will have a male source, and because you seem to believe this to be of vital importance, there is absolutely nothing to lose from choosing the mother's fathers name over the father's father's name. So your argument cancels itself out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbamboozal View Post
    ahahha wow, you're not too bright are you? Where'd she get it?
    From her mother?

    Seriously though you are focusing on the wrong things, you assume a woman got a problem bearing a mans surname and then make some rubbish argument about all surnames being mans name, when in reality it problably got nothing to do with her having a problem with having a name that is a "mans" name, she might just simply like her name more, in OP's case where there seem to be little warm feelings left between him and the mother of his unborn child I could totally understand why the mother would want her own child to have her name, a name that she associate with good people, her parents and family.

    And OP wants his name because of similiar things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbamboozal View Post
    Nice, and only a slice of the picture, before they were english they were?
    And back then names came from?
    Follow it, you want to go historical, ok, but go back all the way. Don;t pick up in the middle and use it without the context of the rest of history..
    Going further back... Harry of London? Harry of Whales? Harry of.... so on and so forth. If he wasn't royalty, he didn't have a last name assigned to his lineage

  9. #329
    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbamboozal View Post
    Nice, and only a slice of the picture, before they were english they were?
    And back then names came from?
    Follow it, you want to go historical, ok, but go back all the way. Don;t pick up in the middle and use it without the context of the rest of history.

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    No, that is the correct response for an obvious trolling-esk post. If you got your name from your mother, she got it from her father, that means it's yet again a MAN's name, so she dressed it two-fold in bs to have a lol at me, and I just kept on. Rude is replying without spending the time to actually read the previous posts and have a clue.
    Nope, if one is polite a rude response is never deserved. And I was definitely not tolling.

    Anyway your point fails because:

    No one cares if the original source of the name was a male or female!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbamboozal View Post
    b/c we are ALL named after our fathers.
    So unless you HAVE to be in bizarro backwards land all the time....
    Not true. My sister has two kids, both with her last name, not the name of the father. Perhaps for those of us born back in the 70s - 80s, that may have been the pattern. Today, it really is up to the mother. That mother may have different ideas of what "should be", relying on culture, tradition or such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by senshu View Post
    And yet it IS a reason and also the norm for our society. If you don't like it, tough.
    That must be why I said, "it's an extremely bad reason".

    And really, what's your problem? You're the one who volunteered up a reason and I gave you my views on why I think it's a bad reason, so now you are all worked up over, what, something you claim to not care about?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasierith View Post
    Alright than, I'll play along. So what if the mother's last name comes from her father? In that case.... by taking her name, the child's name will have a male source, and because you seem to believe this to be of vital importance, there is absolutely nothing to lose from choosing the mother's fathers name over the father's father's name. So your argument cancels itself out
    That's been explained to him multiple times. I'm fairly certain he's not listening.
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  12. #332
    Quote Originally Posted by semaphore View Post
    That must be why I said, "it's an extremely bad reason".

    And really, what's your problem? You're the one who volunteered up a reason and I gave you my views on why I think it's a bad reason, so now you are all worked up over, what, something you claim to not care about?
    And, in turn, your opinion is a very bad one. Why? Because it's based on nothing more than fem-nazi nonsense, like most of the drivel you subject this forum to. They are free to give it any last name they choose, yes. But there is a societal and cultural norm here, and in most cases that is enough for people. That you think it's a poor reason is fine: yet you have no better reason to counter it.

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    Actually I believe that the norm is to take the mothers last name if she is going to be a single parent and raise the child...

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    Quote Originally Posted by senshu View Post
    And, in turn, your opinion is a very bad one. Why? Because it's based on nothing more than fem-nazi nonsense, like most of the drivel you subject this forum to. They are free to give it any last name they choose, yes. But there is a societal and cultural norm here, and in most cases that is enough for people. That you think it's a poor reason is fine: yet you have no better reason to counter it.
    But the point of this thread doesn't cover the societal norm. What matters is how the courts will view it. And seeing as there is a large amount of legal precedence against the father's name being used when a couple breaks up, there is obviously something more to the argument than "fem-nazi nonsense."

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    This thread has gone a little too far into the dark side.

    Closing.

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