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    Huge logical inconsistency that ruins Toy Story?

    I just can't get over this now. If Buzz sincerely believed he was not a toy throughout the first half of Toy Story, why did he act like one when Andy was around? It just blows my mind how this is overlooked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salandrin View Post
    I just can't get over this now. If Buzz sincerely believed he was not a toy throughout the first half of Toy Story, why did he act like one when Andy was around? It just blows my mind how this is overlooked.
    Perhaps he thought Andy was a large alien and Buzz was playing dead in order to prolong his life and develop a strategy to fight back.

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    I don't think 5 year olds are supposed to think about these kinds of things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reg View Post
    Perhaps he thought Andy was a large alien and Buzz was playing dead in order to prolong his life and develop a strategy to fight back.
    Yup. Or maybe he even thought to himself "Hey, the natives are doing this, probably
    best if I do so as well, it could be for safety."
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    Maybe it's not voluntary. Maybe it's in toy DNA to go inert when a human is in line-of-sight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eschatological View Post
    Maybe it's not voluntary. Maybe it's in toy DNA to go inert when a human is in line-of-sight.
    But they eventually come to life in front of Sid. At least Woody and the mutants do.
    ('Woody and the Mutants' sounds like a band...)
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    I'm more concerned with how a toy in the toy story universe becomes a living thing. What "qualifies" it for life? Things like rubber balls and globes don't come to life. How are "toy souls" distributed? When do they come to life in the manufacturing process? And how long has this been happening for? Since people have been making toys?

    And then think about someone like Sid. The kid was already clearly messed up and unhappy. Now he's also the only person in the world that knows that toys are alive. No one else would ever believe him. He'd be totally and 100% paranoid at all times that inanimate objects were watching and judging him, with no one to go to to overcome the issue.

    And then, hey, think of other pixar movies, like Monsters University. At the time of Monster's inc, they thought that humans were toxic, and that anything they touched was potentially lethal. Yet, years prior in the events of monster's university when Mike and Sully are trapped at the summer camp in the human world, they extensively utilize human-world objects to set their trap.


    Of course then I remember they're just nice kids movies that don't need such amounts of undue thought put into their fantasy world.
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    Well, I'm not familiar enough with Toy Story to know who Sid is. Is that the kid who likes to melt toy soldiers in the first movie? He can eventually see toys come to life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eschatological View Post
    Well, I'm not familiar enough with Toy Story to know who Sid is. Is that the kid who likes to melt toy soldiers in the first movie? He can eventually see toys come to life?
    Yeah, Sid is the kid in the first movie that messes with the toys. The toys come to life in front of him to rescue Buzz and stop him from torturing toys. He is the only person in the Toy Story universe that has seen toys alive. There plan seems to have worked in the first movie, by Toy Story 3 you see him again grown up working as a trash man and looking happy, so no long term psychological problems from seeing the toys alive:




    Another fun Toy Story fact: Buzz and Woody are the same names as Andy's mom's toys.

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    This 'complaint' in the OP is how I view most wow complaints these days...

    It just makes me go "Really? Who the hell cares come on....."


    No offense meant of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nonon Jakuzure View Post
    Yeah, Sid is the kid in the first movie that messes with the toys. The toys come to life in front of him to rescue Buzz and stop him from torturing toys. He is the only person in the Toy Story universe that has seen toys alive. There plan seems to have worked in the first movie, by Toy Story 3 you see him again grown up working as a trash man and looking happy, so no long term psychological problems from seeing the toys alive:
    I always suspected that metal heads always had childhood trauma of seeing toys come to life.
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    Buzz's priority is to play with his owner first, kill Zerg later. Go rewatch Toy Story 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CR77 View Post
    While entertaining, the Pixar theory falls apart at Brave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CR77 View Post
    I always hated this pixar theory. It doesn't make sense, as much as the creator tries to make it so.
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    The non-sequitur derp is reaching critical mass...and it's not even page 2 yet.

    Talk about peaking early.

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    Never thought about it, still don't really care honestly. Nothing could ruin Toy Story for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nonon Jakuzure View Post
    Another fun Toy Story fact: Buzz and Woody are the same names as Andy's mom's toys.
    :/ Why would you say that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salandrin View Post
    I just can't get over this now. If Buzz sincerely believed he was not a toy throughout the first half of Toy Story, why did he act like one when Andy was around? It just blows my mind how this is overlooked.
    Yea, that is what is wrong with a movie where toys come alive

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    Sooo much cocaine! But still a fun read.
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    I think we're overanalyzing a kids movie folks. Just roll with it and enjoy the damn movie.

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