This case rouses a question. If people encounter a stranger with a gun to search him, does he has the right to self defend himself? In this case, a murderer said he killed for self defense. That opened the door to bandit to rob people without any risk. If he failed, he could kill the victim then claim he is self defense. That is the point.
Zim shouldn't of followed him. However if this kid did in fact assault Zim, then the act is justified. Hopefully the investigation returns fruitful.
This in no way makes me question my support of armament laws, dead kid or not I would like that option to defend myself.
The fact you have become so emotionally involved in this, shows me you lack an unbiased viewpoint, something you say I lack, yet I have offered nothing buy what the evidence shows, and have constantly shown people what that evidence is.
You say speculations are stupid, then start speculating. uh.....okay
Last edited by Droids; 2012-03-27 at 11:20 PM.
Again, glad I understand.
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The 911 operator (who is not an officer of anything at all) told him "They don't need you to do that" when he said he was following the kid. That is not an order.
So, in conclusion, a person with no authority to give orders made a very noncommittal statement that he was doing something that didn't need to be done. Not even that he shouldn't do it, just that it didn't need to be done.
Can we stop it now?
Even though someone died as a result of this situation, it's important how it plays out and the public opinion over it, because protecting gun rights and the ability to use them is important.
It's better to be allowed to carry and use firearms and never have to use them, than to be barred from carrying and using them and not having one when you need it. Criminals will always have access to illegal firearms, and if we take away the right for law abiding citizens to carry and use them in self defense, we give the upper hand to nefarious individuals.
Zimmerman didn't shoot Trayvon while "standing his ground."
Zimmerman shot Trayvon while Trayvon was on top of him bashing his head into the concrete for close to a minute while Zimmerman was calling out for help.
Standing your ground is an action you take pre-emptively before any physical violence happens, and you believe there will be.
Self Defense is an action you take after there is already a physical assault occurring.
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Unless you've been attacked by someone intent on doing you harm, it's easy to say "oh man what a wimp his life wasn't in danger." However, you don't know the mental state of the person beating you, or what their intentions are. If you think they are going to stop at some point, and just take it, the risk of being wrong is your life.