1. #3501
    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    Psi blades are easy to avoid, refraction doesn't start out with 15 charges per use. TA takes levels to be a hero just like sand king.
    Storm is way easier to avoid and refraction has 3 charges with 17s CD and duration, waves have 4 creeps with 30s intervals, the math is easy on this one. If you cant handle this, then maybe you are not as good as you think you are.

  2. #3502
    Quote Originally Posted by Sarevokcz View Post
    Storm is way easier to avoid and refraction has 3 charges with 17s CD and duration, waves have 4 creeps with 30s intervals, the math is easy on this one. If you cant handle this, then maybe you are not as good as you think you are.
    I watched few of his games and witnessed a fail TP to mid and bunch of other mistakes. I'm not trying to be jerk here, it's easier to catch mistakes while watchin but he's claiminig the most experienced and skilled dota player in Universe but that fail was not a kind of fail where extremely skilled and experienced player would do. He also claims he's playing with pros on a daily basis yet there was no sign of pro players on his match history. I only did this because he was making sense way back but now all bullshit. He's just another interweb user with over 9K ego.
    Last edited by Kuntantee; 2012-11-17 at 12:20 PM.

  3. #3503
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuntantee View Post
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    Take your rage elsewhere if that's all you're good for. You didn't put forth the slighest bit of effort to research me when you added me on steam and contacted me. I told you via PM and I told you via steam that if you wanted to see real games in my history YOU were going to have to find them as I have nothing to prove to some rando who is far below me. My history is full of team queues with new players, I would wager that I have more games played below my actual MMR than I do "fair" games. I don't need to teach every kid on the internet how to breathe, I'm more than willing to entertain myself with discussion but when it comes to actually playing DotA I end the hobby at just that - playing DotA. If I cared about proving myself I would join a pro team, though you'd probably still find a way to call me bad.

    As to the discussion at hand, I haven't played a TA I couldn't stomp flat by mid game. She's only scary for people who refuse to buy dust, otherwise, outside of one blink meld hit she doesn't actually do much damage because, surprise, she has no items since she blew all her gold on that positional. It's your fault if you consistently run around with 600 health, but hey, most people preserve the status quo and weak supports are huge right now.

    Also, sand storm easier to avoid than psi blades when it has the same range but is a permanent AoE that doesn't need to be aimed? I think you're just arguing for the sake of arguing at this point.
    Last edited by Lysah; 2012-11-17 at 01:16 PM.

  4. #3504
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuntantee View Post
    I watched few of his games and witnessed a fail TP to mid and bunch of other mistakes. I'm not trying to be jerk here, it's easier to catch mistakes while watchin but he's claiminig the most experienced and skilled dota player in Universe but that fail was not a kind of fail where extremely skilled and experienced player would do. He also claims he's playing with pros on a daily basis yet there was no sign of pro players on his match history. I only did this because he was making sense way back but now all bullshit. He's just another interweb user with over 9K ego.
    >Last 60 games in match history are all queueing with friends.

    Stay small, my friend.

  5. #3505
    @Lysah

    Zero rage here. I just wrote what I think about you.

  6. #3506
    I'm sorry that I'm so important to you.

  7. #3507
    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    I'm sorry that I'm so important to you.
    Same here since that post pissed you off hard.

  8. #3508
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuntantee View Post
    Same here since that post pissed you off hard.
    In all your time spent stalking me you seem to have missed the part where this is how I post regardless of what mood I'm in.

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    I am astonished by pub's inability to counter Invis heroes to begin with.

  10. #3510
    More on topic, Slark's pretty fun.
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    Consider this philosophical question: If Blizz fails, but noone is there to see it. Will there still be QQ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sackman View Post
    More on topic, Slark's pretty fun.
    and pretty cheat in pub's due to inability to buy bloody wards and because its cool to roam alone in pubs.

  12. #3512
    Pretty serious stalking going on here, no? I don't really give a damn how anyone plays as long as they make up for good discussion, but anyone making unfounded statements with the air of a god talking their opinions from heavens will get my undivided attention.

    Silencer (and Clinkz) is good because few heroes or players can stand for long against relentless Glaive spam. Often it's easy to completely zone your enemy off the creeps, and even if you can't, your lasthitting is superior and a tiny misstep from your enemy will let you take half their health. OD is good because not only has he serious autoattack damage and ability to deny you with Prison, by the time he hits level 3 or 4 he can eat away your whole manapool if you're not an int hero, and even if you are you won't be able to do much with what you've got left.

    Batrider was always supreme, I wondered a lot why he didn't make his way to Dota 2's pro scene until he was buffed (considering he was a top pick in DotA). He didn't even need the strength buffs, he's a beast with just the movement fixes and the new Flamebreak.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermanni View Post
    Pretty serious stalking going on here, no? I don't really give a damn how anyone plays as long as they make up for good discussion, but anyone making unfounded statements with the air of a god talking their opinions from heavens will get my undivided attention.
    At least I deigned to notice you.

    Batrider was always supreme, I wondered a lot why he didn't make his way to Dota 2's pro scene until he was buffed (considering he was a top pick in DotA). He didn't even need the strength buffs, he's a beast with just the movement fixes and the new Flamebreak.
    I can't remember the reason I was told why he wasn't picked, especially once TA started getting popular right after she got ported to Dota 2. Saw a lot of him last week, though... napalm is such a pain in the ass to deal with in lane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaSHARK View Post
    I can't remember the reason I was told why he wasn't picked, especially once TA started getting popular right after she got ported to Dota 2. Saw a lot of him last week, though... napalm is such a pain in the ass to deal with in lane.
    I dunno why professional scene is not picking him but I don't pick him because that auto attack animation feels very clunky and looks very cheap.

  15. #3515
    If i remember correctly batrider was somewhat bugged in dota2 considering turn rates and napalm, and then they fixed that in the same patch they applied buffs, so he imidietly got back to popular.

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  16. #3516
    bat was a lot stronger in dota1 because of bugs in dota 2 (turn rates, napalm)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finear View Post
    bat was a lot stronger in dota1 because of bugs in dota 2 (turn rates, napalm)
    I thought the turnrate thing was a straight buff. It was a bug? He had that fast turnrate in War3 all along?
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    I also do landscaping on weekends with some mexican kid that I "hired". He's real good because he's 100% obedient to me and does everything I say while never complaining. He knows that I am the man in the relationship and is completely submissive towards me as he should be.
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  18. #3518
    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaSHARK View Post
    I thought the turnrate thing was a straight buff. It was a bug? He had that fast turnrate in War3 all along?
    He handled a lot worse in Dota 2 than DotA for sure, there even was a long thread on dev forums about it. There was also a slew of other small things in WC3 about him, like him being immune to roots like Frostbite, Entangle and Troll Warlord net during Firefly due to engine limitations.
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  19. #3519
    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    A caustic SK who knows how to time creep deaths can beat almost anyone in lane. If he knows what he's doing your only choice is to back off when creeps get to half health, because once he tags them all one burrow strike and you just ate a 600 damage nuke at level 5. Sandstorm is just a bonus that makes it impossible for her to get kills on him or even abuse him with the refraction spam she usually does to people.
    I don't see how that'll work out. At level 1 TA will dominate the lane due to better damage. What will you take at level 1 here as Sand King? Caustic Finale first? Gj pushing lane and no way to get rid of Refraction to get your Caustic to damage her. At level 2 you still are behind in experience and last hits, a level one Burrowstrike won't do shit and you still got no way to get rid of Refraction. By the time you get to level 5 Lanaya is already level 6-7. She can just simply right-click you out of the lane.

    But let's assume that you aren't struggling and what you say works (even though I don't see it happening). You will still push the lane a lot and TA will still get her levels and some farm. I don't see how that is considered a "stomp" since SK is pretty useless with early game farm compared to most mid heroes.

  20. #3520
    A level 1 TA already winning her lane? Sorry, I don't buy it. She takes psi blades and you simply avoid them. She takes refraction and she only has melee range, she will eat the creeps trying to fight you.

    All of you keep pretending that TA starts the game with 400 range and 6 stack refraction. She is just as weak at low level as any other hero, probably more so. She needs ALL THREE of her abilities to be useful. Low psi blades? No range. Low meld? No damage. Low refraction? No survivability. TA is a bad hero because she's just as bad at winning her lane as any other hard carry; how often do you see PL go mid? TA goes mid because she HAS to, and that will end when people figure out that they don't need to send Invoker or QoP mid 100% of the time.

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