1. #3581
    Quote Originally Posted by Finear View Post
    since when ?
    Nice catch. I confused it with warrior's execute. Too much WoW.

    It is related with hp. Something like 200/400/600 but that does not change the fact that you can't do anything to save your hp going under those tresholds other than staying in base.

    Time for me to go bed, its almost 2:30 am here.

    ps: I always had kind of association between culling blade and warriors execute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    Do you remember how ridiculous assassinate Rubick was before they give him the cast timer back?
    It was? thought that was like now always.
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  3. #3583
    Quote Originally Posted by NightFury Treann View Post
    It was? thought that was like now always.
    shit was crazy when he was released ;d

  4. #3584
    Quote Originally Posted by cudomix View Post
    Assassinate if used proper is almost always a guaranteed kill, range and damage are really good, late late game it's nothing to write home about, but by then you should be strongest 1v1 hero on the map (ministun goes through BKB, and if they get evasion, get MKB for ultimate stunlocking goodness). If you're not abusing assassinate's insane range, you're doing it wrong^^
    Headshot goes through evasion now, Sniper never needs MKB at all. So good~

    Anyway, I think Sniper would be way too good with any other ultimate. Give him some sort of CC or escape and he will be impossible to kill with his long range and shrapnel combined. Give him more damage and he will be hard carrying with just treads and manta...

  5. #3585
    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    Give him more damage and he will be hard carrying with just treads and manta...
    Pretty much, considering all his other skills are excellent (range increase, ministun, shrapnel is pushing/farming tool with slow atached), situational (but powerful) ultimate is what keeps him in line. Last thing i want to see is another morph or invoker.

  6. #3586
    But then again, Morphling was fine to begin with, he was just popular and in the hands of the best carry players in the world he made a lot of people mad.



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  7. #3587
    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    Biggest strength is that you can't stop it or see it coming.
    well, technically...


  8. #3588
    Quote Originally Posted by Longview View Post
    well, technically...

    Trick shot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermanni View Post
    But then again, Morphling was fine to begin with, he was just popular and in the hands of the best carry players in the world he made a lot of people mad.
    Morphling was OP as hell before those nerfs. He was simply too hard to kill. That's why he was popular - he was the only hard carry that was difficult to kill right from the beginning of the game, yet was still pretty strong late game. Cheap, easy strength morphing was entirely too forgiving of sloppy play.
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  10. #3590
    Not just sloppy play, he can outright engage your team by himself and run in first to kill people just to morph strength and ult away. Other carries have to wait for a hero like Tide to go in, morph can just wave form and eth/adaptive a support to death and then auto attack another support to death while morphing strength and then ult back to base like nothing happened.

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    Sven's being picked constantly in pro games now. I guess pros finally figured out how strong skillbolt is for setting up combos, and Sven himself isn't as big of a drawback anymore since his ulti and cleave got buffed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaSHARK View Post
    Sven's being picked constantly in pro games now. I guess pros finally figured out how strong skillbolt is for setting up combos, and Sven himself isn't as big of a drawback anymore since his ulti and cleave got buffed.
    He is definitely good, but its not like he is unbeatable. I liked most the game (mtw against someone?) with Sven/Magnus combo, those cleaves jesus... but there just as many games where he was build as support or just didnt make big enough impact even with hugeass farm. The "easiest" counter seemed to me like bkb on bane and ulti sven during his bkb.

    Last couple of days, i was trying Nyx and I havent had so much fun in dota... like ever. The ganking solo kills are definitely part of that, but well timed carapace is just hillarious since alot of people dont unfortunately stop animations on their spells. Carapace on Huskars Life break or on Linas ulti... hillarious. But i honestly have no clue how to build him, i just go arcane boots/dagon5 and at that point game is usually already over and if not, ill just get some neutral items like drums or linkens, but might try veil of discord depending on setup. Definitely fun hero, even in games I loose

  13. #3593
    NA > if support dagon -> guinsoos
    else diffusal -> manta -> guinsoos anyway

  14. #3594
    Two more invites yet again. Anyone is interested in playing long term other than just being curious about the game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarevokcz View Post
    He is definitely good, but its not like he is unbeatable. I liked most the game (mtw against someone?) with Sven/Magnus combo, those cleaves jesus... but there just as many games where he was build as support or just didnt make big enough impact even with hugeass farm. The "easiest" counter seemed to me like bkb on bane and ulti sven during his bkb.
    I'm not really sure which way Sven's more useful as. He's always capable of hitting hard due to his ulti, but if you build him as a carry he turns into a more consistent Pirate, but because he still provides skillbolt and a fantastic buff, he's pretty useful as a support, too...

    I've been surprised pros haven't been getting Soul Ring on him. It's so good on him, lets him spam the crap out of his skillbolt and pretty much completely eliminates any mana problems he might've had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaSHARK View Post
    I'm not really sure which way Sven's more useful as. He's always capable of hitting hard due to his ulti, but if you build him as a carry he turns into a more consistent Pirate, but because he still provides skillbolt and a fantastic buff, he's pretty useful as a support, too...

    I've been surprised pros haven't been getting Soul Ring on him. It's so good on him, lets him spam the crap out of his skillbolt and pretty much completely eliminates any mana problems he might've had.
    One of the more interesting things is Sven's tower-killing capability: it seems like only DP and....bugger, Ward-Ult guy (makes, 8 of them) have greater pushing potential at level 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimoron View Post
    One of the more interesting things is Sven's tower-killing capability: it seems like only DP and....bugger, Ward-Ult guy (makes, 8 of them) have greater pushing potential at level 6.
    You're thinking of Rhasta/Shadow Shaman

    I'd say Leshrac probably has the best tower-pushing power at any level. Diabolic Edict causes enormous damage in a short amount of time if you can keep it from wasting hits on creeps.

    Sven's ability to kill towers isn't very good without carry items... his attack speed is pretty slow since he's a STR hero and towers have a lot of armor. Once he has a few carry items, then yeah, he tears up towers (and everything else.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Cailan Ebonheart View Post
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  18. #3598
    sven is horrible support pick him as carry or just dont
    Last edited by Finear; 2012-11-21 at 10:57 AM.

  19. #3599
    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaSHARK View Post
    You're thinking of Rhasta/Shadow Shaman

    I'd say Leshrac probably has the best tower-pushing power at any level. Diabolic Edict causes enormous damage in a short amount of time if you can keep it from wasting hits on creeps.
    Lesh is far from as good as Clinkz. Even a naked Clinkz is gonna do more damage faster than Lesh will besides maybe really early into the game when Clinkz doesn't have both fire arrows and strafe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finear View Post
    sven as support is horrible pick him as carry or just dont
    Great reinforcement for your position there.

    Support Sven is still extremely useful - brings probably the best skillbolt format stun in the game (at least tied with CK's Chaos Bolt, anyway) and his buff is seriously underappreciated. It gives 16 bonus armor to heroes AND creeps, PLUS a huge move speed boost (12%!) with a little under 50% uptime when it's maxed. That translates into almost doubling your creeps' HP versus enemy creeps and towers and it's a straight up counter to TA's armor pierce, Slardar's ultimate, Medallion of Courage, and Desolator.

    For the earlier phases of the midgame, his right click damage is still very relevant even without damage items due to his ulti and decent STR, and his high AGI gain (for a STR hero) makes him a little less reliant on IAS and armor than other STR heroes.

    I'd counter by saying that Sven is a terrible pick as a pure carry. There are much better choices for a hero that wants to right-click things to death. Sven has more of an "AOE carry" niche, a lot like Pirate. If I just wanted a hero that could show up and right-click heroes to death in a few hits, one by one, there are a lot of better choices - hell, if you roll a 20 instead of a 10, PA's probably the best hero in the game at doing that and she's damned near impossible to peel off her target once she has her BKB.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lycoris View Post
    Lesh is far from as good as Clinkz. Even a naked Clinkz is gonna do more damage faster than Lesh will besides maybe really early into the game when Clinkz doesn't have both fire arrows and strafe.
    He's talking about ~level 6. Clinkz is by far the best tower killer once he has some items (Clinkz with just orchid and MKB is fucking comical), but for pushing/taking towers before the 20-25 minute mark, I don't think it gets better than Leshrac. Edict just does so much damage if you can give him a few seconds of free time to use it on a tower.
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