1. #3781
    The thing about Magnus is that his mana is ASS. Arcanes are not an option, but mandatory, and that already locks him out of 8 STR/25 IAS. You could just get a carry with HotD and keep a manaburning satyr or whatever it was around and he'd be limited to tossing around two Shockwaves (or an Invoker with EMP lololo so skill rite guyise).

    Or... maybe just spread a bit around. Reverse Polarity does not have much of an AoE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupimus View Post
    The thing about Magnus is that his mana is ASS. Arcanes are not an option, but mandatory, and that already locks him out of 8 STR/25 IAS. You could just get a carry with HotD and keep a manaburning satyr or whatever it was around and he'd be limited to tossing around two Shockwaves (or an Invoker with EMP lololo so skill rite guyise).

    Or... maybe just spread a bit around. Reverse Polarity does not have much of an AoE.
    I think the main concern is Skewer and how it makes it a lot easier for him to get a good RP off without needing blink dagger.
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    Well, if the other team all manage to get caught by Skewer, then they deserve to lose anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiftero View Post
    Well, if the other team all manage to get caught by Skewer, then they deserve to lose anyway.
    He doesn't have to hit anyone to be able to use it as a supercharged Force Staff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Cailan Ebonheart View Post
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    Hilariously enough, I just played a game where my ally got FB'd at level 1 due to magic missile + skewer on to the dire ward spot next to ancients. Mags just used the first blood gold to crow and get a TP scroll. The distance skewer can carry someone is hilariously long, from dire bot's defensive river ward spot all the way through the river to the hill on the other side.

    He still lost that game to lothar's Sven though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    Hilariously enough, I just played a game where my ally got FB'd at level 1 due to magic missile + skewer on to the dire ward spot next to ancients. Mags just used the first blood gold to crow and get a TP scroll. The distance skewer can carry someone is hilariously long, from dire bot's defensive river ward spot all the way through the river to the hill on the other side.

    He still lost that game to lothar's Sven though.
    Glad to hear the idea I had about Pirate build Sven might actually be possible. Kunkka wishes Torrent was as good as stormbolt.
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    I still assert lothar's being a good choice on virtually any hero depending on the game and how fast you can build it. I've seen a lot of BH players making shadow blade for the free 150 damage on their jinada, easy 800 crits 15 minutes in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    I still assert lothar's being a good choice on virtually any hero depending on the game and how fast you can build it. I've seen a lot of BH players making shadow blade for the free 150 damage on their jinada, easy 800 crits 15 minutes in.
    Isn't it kind of a waste as you can already hit with +120 from Shadow walk?

    Obviously Jinada has a lower CD than Shadow Walk, but it still sounds like a waste of money and
    pushing your delicious desolator 1 shot further away.

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    My buddy disagrees that PA+Magnus would be a strong combo. I disagree that she needs a ton of farm to be useful - assuming you decide to play aggressive, Vanguard takes care of her immediate health needs (or maybe even Tranquil Boots since those seem to be trending lately), and even with just, say, a Yasha or some other minor damage item, plus Magnus' Empower, she's easily capable of huge crits even at low levels... and those crits cleave for 50%, too.

    She's already a phenomenal chaser and has limited escape options with her blink strike and free evasion/minimap hiding. Shit, she'd probably be even better than Anti-Mage in a tri-lane due to her dagger alone, 50% slow on a short cooldown with enormous range would make it really hard to avoid Split Earth/Ice Path/etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Cailan Ebonheart View Post
    I also do landscaping on weekends with some mexican kid that I "hired". He's real good because he's 100% obedient to me and does everything I say while never complaining. He knows that I am the man in the relationship and is completely submissive towards me as he should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by juzalol View Post
    Isn't it kind of a waste as you can already hit with +120 from Shadow walk?

    Obviously Jinada has a lower CD than Shadow Walk, but it still sounds like a waste of money and
    pushing your delicious desolator 1 shot further away.
    http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=369089

    Its not likely to be some superbuild, but it certainly is fun to play. it only requires good start and less opponents with CCs. Also Im gonna point out, even Korok and Bulba were playing with the idea and it was used in a tournament i think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermanni View Post
    you can consider yourself the big winner as I did indeed give up.
    Cool, so we both agree you lost. Awesome! Guess this is EOD, just glad I won though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarevokcz View Post
    http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=369089

    Its not likely to be some superbuild, but it certainly is fun to play. it only requires good start and less opponents with CCs. Also Im gonna point out, even Korok and Bulba were playing with the idea and it was used in a tournament i think?
    I don't understand Battle Fury on BH. I saw it all the time in games at my MMR level and it never made much sense to me. I get that BH can use some mana regen if he's roaming, but Bottle or even an Urn can take care of that and he isn't a carry, so it's not like he really benefits from the cleave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Cailan Ebonheart View Post
    I also do landscaping on weekends with some mexican kid that I "hired". He's real good because he's 100% obedient to me and does everything I say while never complaining. He knows that I am the man in the relationship and is completely submissive towards me as he should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaSHARK View Post
    he isn't a carry
    he is
    just not played as one in pro games (well at least not now, iirc in 2010 he was often picked for carry slot)

    bfury+jinada clear waves in 1-2hit so it is popular choice
    same reason ppl go for midas on furion even if its not optimal
    MORE GOLD ;d

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finear View Post
    he is
    just not played as one in pro games (well at least not now, iirc in 2010 he was often picked for carry slot)

    bfury+jinada clear waves in 1-2hit so it is popular choice
    same reason ppl go for midas on furion even if its not optimal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Cailan Ebonheart View Post
    I also do landscaping on weekends with some mexican kid that I "hired". He's real good because he's 100% obedient to me and does everything I say while never complaining. He knows that I am the man in the relationship and is completely submissive towards me as he should be.
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    Track gold.

  17. #3797
    Where the fuck is Medusa again?

    I wonder why they took so long to enable PRD in Dota 2, considering it was in DotA.



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  18. #3798
    no hero ;_;


    Quote Originally Posted by Hermanni View Post
    I wonder why they took so long to enable PRD in Dota 2, considering it was in DotA.
    you mean this?
    Pseudo Random chances are now enabled for these abilities
    it was already implemented for items afaik
    Last edited by Finear; 2012-11-28 at 10:58 PM.

  19. #3799
    Clearly DotA is fine as is and doesn't need any more heroes :x

    I certainly thought we were going to see heavy progress with the recent invite spam....maybe they're going to surprise us with 6 heroes at once. I guess we can just trust Premier Frog on this one.

  20. #3800
    I think Icefrog might still be on his holiday in China...

    @Finear I don't know, I just knew it wasn't enabled for (most?) abilities.



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