The ONLY reason why its harder to get into dota 2 than is because there are no "noob games" for people to learn harder things in somewhat relaxed conditions, instead they are thrown into matchmaking with the likes of you who expect from them impossible tasks and throw a hissyfit every time they dont do something properly. They dont NEED to learn harder things from the get go, they however absolutely NEED to get a good feel of the game pace and need to get comfortable playing the game and heroes and against heroes/combos without being called noob every two minutes.
The game needs to get tutorials asap for sure, but the mentor program and game going live free for everyone are the more important things. I went with friend who has played like 2 hours of LoL before, he picked easy hero and was stomped nontheless, because even after i warned him dozen times, he still dived enemy tower against dazzle yurnero. But he was HAVING FUN... Until two wannabe-pros started flaming him.
The issue arent the newbies or the knowledge they have or dont have. Its those seasoned players that cant get over few missteps of those newbies that might cost them the game.
I havent played quake like at all, since it was just not my thing, I always preferred CS, but again, the only reason SC2 is easier to get into is because you get matched against opponents on your level of (no)skill, this just isnt possible in dota2 at this time with the regular matchmaking and the ammount of people that (can) play. If half of their matches were against low masters, you can bet new people wouldnt play SC2 for more than few games, too.
What kind of bothers me is that it seems like a lot of people who try to teach newcomers seem intent on overloading their subject(s) with information. Learn these things, memorize all this, read these guides... for what? To have fun? Are you introducing your friend to a game so that they could enjoy playing it or are you just trying to train a personal wardbitch out of someone? What do you think a new player cares about more, making it to the high end matchmaking or just having fun?
Just let new players try and enjoy the game and figure things on their own unless they actually tell you they want to learn everything and be great players at any cost. Let them ask questions and get used to one thing at a time instead of demanding that they get good so they're ready for matchmaking with you. When I was first asked to play DotA I had no idea what the game looked like or how it was played, now I probably know more about the game than 98% of the players, but between those two there isn't any time when I weren't having a great time just playing the game.
P.S. I used the word "you" a lot, but this post wasn't directed to anyone in particular.
Saying DotA 2 has FUCKIIING INSANE AMOUNT OF INFO TO MEMORIZE is an insult to human brain and capability. Commit 1 month extensive study over dota, you will be master on paper. The problem is getting enough experience to execute the knowledge which comes with playing a lot.
About Russians...At first the Russian players I was playing was great and then it started to fuck up. I, too, sometimes speak my own language in-game chat but when foreign people try to communicate with me I reply in English. This is what Russians are not doing because very few of Russians can speak English. I'm going to say that the players in my country are like Russians. Not because they are trolls, because they just can't speak English. All in all, I prefer to ignore those who resist to communicate or when I'm annoyed by their language instead of racist nerdrages.
Last edited by Kuntantee; 2012-12-04 at 03:10 PM.
Would you suggest people in your yard who play soccer, actually learn ALL the rules?
The point Im trying to make is, the crowd is big, and the crowd consists of averages.
Dota22 community also consists of averages.
Mostly, but not all.
Sure as sure