1. #5421
    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaSHARK View Post
    Drow is very strong after her changes and is extremely easy to play. Riki... well, in most pubs invisibility = invincibility. He's still strong at higher levels of play, especially once he finishes his Diffusal.
    I hear this all the time, but I cant remember the last time people actively didnt buy anti-invis items, and Im pretty sure Im bad enough to play in relatively low skilled games. maybe its different in US, I dont know, I play EU west and east, but there is dust and wards in almost all games with invis heroes, regardless if our team or the opponents have one and I play invis decently enough, Nyx is my top pick ever since they brought him to dota2 and gondar isnt far behind, so i figure out pretty quickly they have wards when i try to jump those supports and they melt me coz they were baiting me

  2. #5422
    Quote Originally Posted by Sarevokcz View Post
    I hear this all the time, but I cant remember the last time people actively didnt buy anti-invis items, and Im pretty sure Im bad enough to play in relatively low skilled games. maybe its different in US, I dont know, I play EU west and east, but there is dust and wards in almost all games with invis heroes, regardless if our team or the opponents have one and I play invis decently enough, Nyx is my top pick ever since they brought him to dota2 and gondar isnt far behind, so i figure out pretty quickly they have wards when i try to jump those supports and they melt me coz they were baiting me
    People mostly buy consumables for invisible heroes in my games but friend of mine who's new in DotA and playing in low MMR. I can, without a doubt, say that I haven't seen any truesight consumable in any of his games. He tends to pick rikimaru a lot.

  3. #5423
    I go entire games without true sight all the time, I'm pretty sure its a pub thing and not a MMR thing. Even good players can be too "lazy" to buy dust/sentries in public games.
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  4. #5424
    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    I go entire games without true sight all the time, I'm pretty sure its a pub thing and not a MMR thing. Even good players can be too "lazy" to buy dust/sentries in public games.
    I usually base my true sight purchase off how well the individual hero is doing... unless its riki then I get a gem asap.

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    https://dotabuff.com/pages/dbr

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  7. #5427
    I honestly don't understand the fuzz about this. Winrates are alreay avaible, why this matters so much?

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    https://dotabuff.com/matches/104290686

    Im the doombringer, it was literally impossible to kill phantom lancer, but because I was so fed this made me sad. Any tips for killing PL in the future?

  9. #5429
    Quote Originally Posted by Tommo View Post
    https://dotabuff.com/matches/104290686

    Im the doombringer, it was literally impossible to kill phantom lancer, but because I was so fed this made me sad. Any tips for killing PL in the future?
    Have more than a single AoE nuke across an entire team.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jangri- View Post
    I honestly don't understand the fuzz about this. Winrates are alreay avaible, why this matters so much?
    Winrates say far less than a rating system would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommo View Post
    https://dotabuff.com/matches/104290686

    Im the doombringer, it was literally impossible to kill phantom lancer, but because I was so fed this made me sad. Any tips for killing PL in the future?
    Get some dmg items?

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    I meant as a solo player, I cant exactly force my random team to pick what I want.

  12. #5432
    https://dotabuff.com/pages/dbr

    "As you can see above, win rate is indeed a very poor way to judge player skill.
    CALCULATION FACTORS
    The only factors considered in determining the change in your rating is match outcome and skill difference between players. "

    They are definitely not the smartest bunch. Oh well, people really need to understand that these systems only work for ranking teams in certain games or in 1v1 SC2, but alas people need to jack off to their e-peens in every game...

  13. #5433
    Quote Originally Posted by Daraiki View Post
    https://dotabuff.com/pages/dbr

    "As you can see above, win rate is indeed a very poor way to judge player skill.
    CALCULATION FACTORS
    The only factors considered in determining the change in your rating is match outcome and skill difference between players. "

    They are definitely not the smartest bunch. Oh well, people really need to understand that these systems only work for ranking teams in certain games or in 1v1 SC2, but alas people need to jack off to their e-peens in every game...
    I agree, I can't wait to see how horrible the system is at judging people.
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  14. #5434
    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    I agree, I can't wait to see how horrible the system is at judging people.
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  15. #5435
    You can rate "optimal play" for each role. This will generate a rating that is reliable to a certain degree but there is no way you can calculate skill levels in pubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lycoris View Post
    Oh look, they're copying the absolute worst fucking part about SC2's ladder, designed to completely shit up a 1v1 game, and applying to a 5v5 game.

    What could possibly go wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaSHARK View Post
    Oh look, they're copying the absolute worst fucking part about SC2's ladder, designed to completely shit up a 1v1 game, and applying to a 5v5 game.

    What could possibly go wrong?
    lol angry bronze player
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  18. #5438
    Oh god... I don't want my rating and such public.


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  19. #5439
    Quote Originally Posted by Daraiki View Post
    https://dotabuff.com/pages/dbr

    "As you can see above, win rate is indeed a very poor way to judge player skill.
    CALCULATION FACTORS
    The only factors considered in determining the change in your rating is match outcome and skill difference between players. "

    They are definitely not the smartest bunch. Oh well, people really need to understand that these systems only work for ranking teams in certain games or in 1v1 SC2, but alas people need to jack off to their e-peens in every game...
    Win rate is not a good way to judge skill, but a rating based on wins alone is probably the best system you can wish for (however bad that may or may not be.) Any attempt to weight additional statistics into the equation will increase the inaccuracy by a lot. I doubt there is any reasonable way to take KDA or GPM into account, even if you could detect when players are playing support or hard carry there's still a hundred things messing with the statistic.

    And I'm not saying ratings are ever accurate or that they could not be completely wrong, nor do I support the system, but still after having played HoN with multiple accounts all I can say the difference between playing in games with very different MMR range was pretty easy to notice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everything Nice View Post
    Oh god... I don't want my rating and such public.
    I think there was a possibility that viewing other people's rating would require you to pay for their premium service, which I doubt that many players will do. And there was also talk of the possibility to set your rating as private if you login to their site. But that's just rumours at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommo View Post
    https://dotabuff.com/matches/104290686

    Im the doombringer, it was literally impossible to kill phantom lancer, but because I was so fed this made me sad. Any tips for killing PL in the future?
    Phantom Lancer relies heavily on early and mid game farming, also a decent PL sends his illusions to go jungle for him or her, you can cut those off. It takes a degree of knowledge (and luck) to decipher what are his illusion and what is him. Best thing you can do is look at the damage output.
    Also aoe helps taking em out!
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