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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermanni View Post
    http://blog.dota2.com/2013/04/your-new-wingman/

    Looks like they will start handing out chat bans to players who are abusive in chat.
    I got one!

    Me getting one has to one of the most damn frustrating things I've had happen to me so far. I have no idea why I got one. I haven't been foul or anything of the sort and I'm just left stumped. It's left me seriously peeved off to say the least.

    If anything it's made me reluctant to ever speak again in a game that isn't "missing" etc etc. I'm left feeling confused as to what I could've said that could've gotten me banned.

    The worst part is that even "Y + direction" commands don't work so you can't call missing which directly damages other players who haven't been chat banned.

    Does anybody know the reports are handled and if there's a way to inquire into your bans? I'm currently mythed as to how this has happened.
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  2. #7522
    Any tips on how to get past the (extremely infuriating) tutorial for DotA2? I'm starting to get really annoyed by Razor being killed by minions because he spawns as soon as the tutorial starts(instead of only being there for the "cinematic"), which bugs the ending(?).
    Basically when I get to the watchtower and have to kill the 3 creeps, Razor is just standing there, getting murdered by my creeps(and accidental damage from my fire breath). If I proceed, he just gets killed again and again whenever he spawns, which messes with the later parts of the tutorial where I have to last hit to "get gold" for items I've already bought.
    Then when I get to level 6 and the game tells me to pop my ulti and kill Razor, he never gets to any part of the map I can even access.

  3. #7523
    Quote Originally Posted by wynnyelle View Post
    Ouch, that is a shitty situation right there. Your League friends are like a lot of League players, I think. I have some friends who are like that too and it really sucks. I'd offer to play with you myself, but I"m still really new and am gradually still learning so I wouldn't want to hold you back. Good luck though! Don't be discouraged. It sounds like you just had a bad day.
    Usually because league is an easier game to get into, since it has a few simplistic mechanics that are easy to understand. The game is getting stale pretty fast though. It was easier for me to get back to DOTA, especially since I played the original DOTA between 2006-2008.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drathos View Post
    Any tips on how to get past the (extremely infuriating) tutorial for DotA2? I'm starting to get really annoyed by Razor being killed by minions because he spawns as soon as the tutorial starts(instead of only being there for the "cinematic"), which bugs the ending(?).
    Basically when I get to the watchtower and have to kill the 3 creeps, Razor is just standing there, getting murdered by my creeps(and accidental damage from my fire breath). If I proceed, he just gets killed again and again whenever he spawns, which messes with the later parts of the tutorial where I have to last hit to "get gold" for items I've already bought.
    Then when I get to level 6 and the game tells me to pop my ulti and kill Razor, he never gets to any part of the map I can even access.
    Killing razor ends the tutorial, and all you really do to him is right click and watch him die, so it doesn't actually matter from a learning perspective. I have no idea how to fix it though.

  5. #7525
    Quote Originally Posted by Varix View Post
    Is there a way to practice teamfighting?
    The easiest way is to assign your duty before combat, then its just a matter of execution and review whats wrong after each failed clash. It might turn into blaming game sometimes, but if you are good friends it shouldnt last to the next clash. That was how we did.

  6. #7526
    Gotta hand it to Valve for the most ridiculous report system I've seen to date, this is some HoN level bullshit.



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  7. #7527
    Chat banned twice already trololol
    Glad the community is cleansed of my team direction, now people just have to watch my pings and pray they can guess the difference between engage and run for it.

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    Yeah the chat ban is stupid, i got one and played a couple games after that and it is almost impossible to play with pubs at that point. I guess i deserved it i have no idea, im never down right offensive. I hope this doesnt turn out to be like LoL, where you get reported for the most minor shit, i kind of like a bitch of banter between teams, it adds to the experience for me.

  9. #7529
    From what we understand it's pretty much automated, like, if you do what I do and say "You get NOTHING, good day sir." in all chat when you culling blade someone and the enemy team is just having such a bad day that all 5 of them report you for abusive language you can get instantly chat banned just that fast.

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    So it appears I can get scolded for bringing me teammates and enemies' parentage into question? Not fun
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    Sure as sure

  11. #7531
    hey everybody, i started playing dota 2 a few days ago and wanted to ask a short question. I like playing Viper (and also Venomancer which is kind of the same) and normally go for Ring of Basilius first for the mana reg. After that its Power threads and then shadow blade so i can easily open on someone with ulti.

    Is that an OK build? And normally the game is won/lost up until that point but what should i go for next in line? I normally go for mjollnir after that.

    Thanks in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by hastilavista View Post
    hey everybody, i started playing dota 2 a few days ago and wanted to ask a short question. I like playing Viper (and also Venomancer which is kind of the same) and normally go for Ring of Basilius first for the mana reg. After that its Power threads and then shadow blade so i can easily open on someone with ulti.

    Is that an OK build? And normally the game is won/lost up until that point but what should i go for next in line? I normally go for mjollnir after that.

    Thanks in advance
    Basilius is always good item but don't buy it from start. You need regenration items and some branches for extra HP and mana. Treads is fine. Shadow Blade is also fine. However, Venomancer is usually played as a support in higher tier games which means you should be buying chicken and wards throughout the game. Don't expect to get any big items if you play support. Boots, wand and bracer is usually what you can be happy with.

    Mjollnir is bad on both those heroes. Its main purpose is for farming and those two heroes don't need to farm that much. I also don't think Mjollnir works with Viper's first skill, which is an orb effect I think.

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    Medic Panda, now this is a hilarious idea


  14. #7534
    Quote Originally Posted by Ariadne View Post
    Basilius is always good item but don't buy it from start. You need regenration items and some branches for extra HP and mana. Treads is fine. Shadow Blade is also fine. However, Venomancer is usually played as a support in higher tier games which means you should be buying chicken and wards throughout the game. Don't expect to get any big items if you play support. Boots, wand and bracer is usually what you can be happy with.

    Mjollnir is bad on both those heroes. Its main purpose is for farming and those two heroes don't need to farm that much. I also don't think Mjollnir works with Viper's first skill, which is an orb effect I think.
    thanks for the input, i will give it a try

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    Chat banned twice already trololol
    Glad the community is cleansed of my team direction, now people just have to watch my pings and pray they can guess the difference between engage and run for it.
    Yeah, even I got one. I had Void for the second AR game in a row, can't talk, Shadow Demon comes bot with me and starts autoattacking creeps and pushing the lane... can't even draw on the map, so I can't combine pings and lines to indicate that he should start pulling.

    I just abandoned the game. It really is just about impossible to play with pubs if you can't communicate.

    I dunno. This new system is definitely showing the downside to automated systems.
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    This new report system would be a bad idea even if it was remotely possible to get the manpower and administrative structure that would make reviewing each and every report viable, because dota is a team game, and I would rather have someone flaming everyone on the team for the slightest mistake, so that they could alert the team to something at a crucial moment, than have them be muted. Also, what's the deal with allowing people to ping? That's probably the single most annoying thing anyone can do.

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    Well from a new player perspective i can kind of see why they did it, when i first started people were raging at me. Now im the kind of person that would go google wtf 'feeding' etc was so i learned from it.
    One of my friends though that also started in the last week or so was so put off from the abuse he was getting in games that he didnt want to play online again at all.
    I know you need a thick skin to play these kind of games, but i cant blame valve for trying their best to not put off new players, since more players = more money.

    Personally i only report people if they really annoy me, like calling members noobs constantly without giving them any advice on what they should be doing instead.

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    I report pretty much anyone that's being a douchebag. If they can't be civil and friendly, they probably shouldn't talk at all. Of course, there's a difference between telling someone that Battle Fury is probably a bad idea on Void after their 12 minute Hand of Midas and going OMFG STUPID NOOB FEEDER, GET WRECKED KID, but most people won't differentiate.

    I know that my buddy almost certainly got chat-banned for a day because the enemy South American stack all chain-reported him and his two buddies (probably his entire team, but he was only queueing with two buddies) for... saying gg at the end of the game, I guess.

    EDIT: Obligatory "fuck Magnus." Watching G-1 League games and LGD's going to the LAN finals almost certainly because they had Magnus. Zenith would have a fight mostly going their way, then - nope, lol, blink RP while Anti-Mage with two Battle Furies cleaves everything to death.

    I'm sick of watching Magnus (and Nyx) ruin games at the comp level. Making pubs a joke is one thing, but when actual money is on the line... the hell is taking Icefrog so long?
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    I also do landscaping on weekends with some mexican kid that I "hired". He's real good because he's 100% obedient to me and does everything I say while never complaining. He knows that I am the man in the relationship and is completely submissive towards me as he should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaSHARK View Post
    'I'm sick of watching Magnus (and Nyx) ruin games at the comp level. Making pubs a joke is one thing, but when actual money is on the line... the hell is taking Icefrog so long?
    Yeah they're so OP they barely even get banned any more, clearly the players feel the same way.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermanni View Post
    Yeah they're so OP they barely even get banned any more, clearly the players feel the same way.
    No, instead they're usually first pick. You are probably the only person I've ever seen that doesn't think Nyx and Magnus are gamebreaking.

    Watch VP vs Mouz game 3 from G-1. Tell me Magnus isn't completely fucking broken. Twice VP gets a good initiation on Mouz, when Mouz overextends or plays sloppy, then all it takes is Magnus clicking blink and clicking R, Gyro clicks R on top of Magnus, clicks Flak Cannon, free rampage.

    I can't think of any hero who can so dramatically change teamfights with nothing but a blink dagger. Epicenter does a crapton of damage, but it's channeled and it doesn't stun. Black Hole stuns for 4 seconds, but it's channeled and doesn't do as much damage (compared to the RP+Shockwave+Skewer combo.) Ravage is really good, but it can be blocked by BKB. Rexxar only stuns 1 target, etc.

    And it's not just RP. Shockwave functions as a better Dragon Slave, and Empower is effectively a free Battle Fury for your carry - and even if they're ranged and can't benefit from the cleave, it's still a very substantial damage bonus.

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    Watch the fights at 21:10 and 26:28. Not perfect play by VP, but in both causes they catch Mouz out of position and then Magnus just runs in, clicks RP, and instant team wipe. It's not even just the instant Black Hole, but the sheer damage Magnus puts out on top of that - 300 from Shockwave, 280 from Skewer, and about another ~300 or so from RP itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Cailan Ebonheart View Post
    I also do landscaping on weekends with some mexican kid that I "hired". He's real good because he's 100% obedient to me and does everything I say while never complaining. He knows that I am the man in the relationship and is completely submissive towards me as he should be.
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