1. #8021
    The whole case with SB and Night Stalker are that there are less gamble heroes to pick than them to be honest, that was always been the case, its not like the main complain of Dota is that tournaments always seem to have the same heroes..and for a reason.

    Its not that SB isnt good, but he isnt as good as others, of course with such an RNG stun, or Night Stalker, there is risk and gamble involved compared to other heroes.

    Then again many things changed since i actively played Dota, and since i restarted the last few months maybe things have changed that i am wrong, but oh well ;D

  2. #8022
    The risk with NS is that you let the game last for 50 minutes and he becomes nonfactor. Even with items and at night his late game damage is just pathetic in comparison to most heroes...mostly due to how little farm you will likely be getting if you do your job. I've seen many a Nightstalker (including myself) start out with 6, 7, 12 kills and still end up hiding in the back of team fights late game.

    SB will still have an AoE stun with charge and a target bash that goes through BKB, even if nothing else, he is useful for that. Black hole? Meet nether strike (and that's not even to mention the movespeed aura that can't be underestimated).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    The risk with NS is that you let the game last for 50 minutes and he becomes nonfactor. Even with items and at night his late game damage is just pathetic in comparison to most heroes...mostly due to how little farm you will likely be getting if you do your job. I've seen many a Nightstalker (including myself) start out with 6, 7, 12 kills and still end up hiding in the back of team fights late game.

    SB will still have an AoE stun with charge and a target bash that goes through BKB, even if nothing else, he is useful for that. Black hole? Meet nether strike (and that's not even to mention the movespeed aura that can't be underestimated).
    I remember someone telling me that the best way to fix Bloodseeker would be to make Thirst affect teammates. I'm pretty sure he was saying it with a straight face, too.

  4. #8024
    This game needs more Timbersaw.
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  5. #8025
    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    This game needs less trees.
    Fixed that bit.



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  6. #8026
    So tired of disconnects and abandonments....what a torture and a waste of time,the consequences for such behaviour need to be much stricter.
    And connection checks need to be extended to the first 3 minutes of the game.How often do people disconnect right after the picks?It's baffling.

    I'm keeping my reports for people who abandon now.There's nothing else that's more disturbing.
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  7. #8027
    Quote Originally Posted by ZRebellion View Post
    I'm keeping my reports for people who abandon now.There's nothing else that's more disturbing.
    Sorry to break this to you but the reports aren't meant to be used on people who abandon. There's a system in place that tracks leaves so it can automatically suspend players who leave too much, you don't need to put a report in for it. Your reports are for people who behave in disruptive manner, not for people who have to leave a game for whatever reason.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermanni View Post
    Sorry to break this to you but the reports aren't meant to be used on people who abandon. There's a system in place that tracks leaves so it can automatically suspend players who leave too much, you don't need to put a report in for it. Your reports are for people who behave in disruptive manner, not for people who have to leave a game for whatever reason.
    Yeah, I'm always surprised at people telling others to report a guy that leaves.

  9. #8029
    Quote Originally Posted by Ariadne View Post
    Yeah, I'm always surprised at people telling others to report a guy that leaves.
    I know there's something in place,but that doesn't mean I don't want to hasten the process.

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    Tobi won't be covering the eastern qualifiers.

    Bit of a disappointment. I'm quite displeased with BTS and 2GD so far, to the point where I simply cannot watch them - poor casters and the insight provided by the co-casters is nothing compared to what the likes of Hanni, Maelk and KuroKy have given us so far (not to mention that the latter 3 all synergize very well with Tobi).

    I don't give a damn about Tobi not being all that knowledgeable. He doesn't have to be.

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  11. #8031
    Quote Originally Posted by ZRebellion View Post
    I know there's something in place,but that doesn't mean I don't want to hasten the process.
    You're still not supposed to. The whole abandonment system is in place so that if anyone who is seldom met with an emergency (or even has a rare case of rage) and has to leave mid-game can do so without fear of punishment and the rest of the players can leave and proceed to a new game. When someone leaves in your game you can assume that either they're pathological leavers and will probably be sent to low priority right away, or maybe they're someone like me with nearly 3000 games and maybe 3 (legitimate) abandons. It's not your place to demand that almighty gaben smites that player from heavens for wasting 15 minutes of your time.

    If you read what the descriptions of the report categories in-game, you'll notice they're called "Communication", "Ability Abuse" and "Intentional Feeding." Did someone do something that doesn't belong to any of those 3 categories? Don't report it.
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  12. #8032
    Quote Originally Posted by Coffer View Post
    I don't give a damn about Tobi not being all that knowledgeable. He doesn't have to be.
    But does he have production value?
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    This game needs more Timbersaw.
    No, this game needs more Abaddon. And right now.

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    BTS is slightly better now that Merlini is there, but it shows that LD really needs a top tier co-caster in order to be good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZRebellion View Post
    So tired of disconnects and abandonments....what a torture and a waste of time,the consequences for such behaviour need to be much stricter.
    Agreed, seems atleast half of my games someone leaves in the first 10 minutes. Ive no idea what the punishment is but it needs to be stricter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coffer View Post
    BTS is slightly better now that Merlini is there, but it shows that LD really needs a top tier co-caster in order to be good.
    I find LD to be miles better than Tobi. Personal opinions huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillpapps View Post
    I find LD to be miles better than Tobi. Personal opinions huh?
    Not every opinion is equal, but whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coffer View Post
    Not every opinion is equal, but whatever.
    can you not

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiragana View Post
    Agreed, seems atleast half of my games someone leaves in the first 10 minutes. Ive no idea what the punishment is but it needs to be stricter.
    Or you could just have fun with it. I don't mind people leaving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saladin456 View Post
    Or you could just have fun with it. I don't mind people leaving.
    Il still finish the game, i dont leave just because someone abandoned. Just annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coffer View Post
    BTS is slightly better now that Merlini is there, but it shows that LD really needs a top tier co-caster in order to be good.
    How's that any different from JD? Tobi is a noisy, annoying soccer football announcer without a co-caster telling everyone why something happened and why it was important. At least LD isn't an annoying little prick, though I do think he's much better when he has a pro player co-casting with him. I like Lumi, but the dude's just a straight-up asshole a lot of the time... really unprofessional.

    I've been listening to 2GD for the western qualifiers and haven't had issues with their coverage of the games.

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