1. #10841
    Think of it as general sport: theres only one court to play on with different settings/players. Personally I dont see anything wrong with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunkenvalley View Post
    So been playing some Elder Titan. My god that guy can push really, really fast with lvl 4 Spirit and some Natural Order levels (at least, I think it negates the enemy creeps' armor and increases the damage of the Ancestral Spirit landing on the creeps?).

    Actually, now I'm not sure. Does the Ancestral Spirit's Natural Order kick in as he spawns, before dealing damage, or after? (I'm guessing it spawns first with the aura before the damage is dealt.)
    Aura works before dmg .

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    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaSHARK View Post
    He's one of the better bullshit pub heroes. Warlock with a refresher orb and ult stick can pretty much indefinitely defend base from pushes, and is as good at attacking as he is at defending.

    You can easily have four golems out at a time, and because they last so long, by time the golems are dead, it's not really too much longer before you can ult again, despite the ult's long cooldown. Drop your golems, kill the enemy team, push the lanes with the golems, by time the enemy team reassembles and pushes your base again, you can repeat it.

    It's not overpowered, because it does require those two (expensive) items, but that's not really hard to pull off in a pub, especially since Warlock doesn't really need items. Not overpowered, but complete bullshit.

    Warlock becomes op when he has a aghs and even before then he is strong

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    8 losing streak right now. have to find a way to avoid the russians
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    embrace the russians

    play like one of them

    become them

    only then you may win

    (realtalk though russians in my experience >>> most other non-english people to play with. at least russians dont give up and russians manmode like crazy)
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    Playing in an amateur tourney tomorrow with 32 teams for fun, no prize money, just for aussies/NZ, gonna be fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roosky View Post
    Playing in an amateur tourney tomorrow with 32 teams for fun, no prize money, just for aussies/NZ, gonna be fun!
    Good luck and have fun ^_^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    8 losing streak right now. have to find a way to avoid the russians
    But the enemy teams had for sure russians as well ! :P

  9. #10849
    Quote Originally Posted by Longview View Post
    embrace the russians

    play like one of them

    become them

    only then you may win

    (realtalk though russians in my experience >>> most other non-english people to play with. at least russians dont give up and russians manmode like crazy)
    Problem is russians arent bad , they are many !
    Valve stated clearly ukraineans playing dota is same as americans , and thats 1 country .
    Go figure there is all russia + plenty of ex ussr countries which speak russian . So thats a lot of russians .

    So if bad players are around 20% ? russian 20% is waaaaaaaay bigger >>>>>>> then any other nation's 20% .
    And also often when wining people dont bother "notice" they won due to russians . Only when they lose they tend to see it .

    Happens very often enemy team when loosing saying : gg won thanks to oure x y (being russian) and oure replay usually is : to bad only 2/5 , we are 5/5 russians and we won .

    I get often credit and congratz for wining the game very often , but not a single time for wining it as russian player .
    And i get blamed 100% of the times when loosing for being russian .
    People tend to remember this only when they want it . Oh well ...

  10. #10850
    I've played with Russians a lot. Sometimes they're good, sometimes they're bad. My main gripe is rarely with how they play, but rather that they're usually completely unwilling to try and communicate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunkenvalley View Post
    I've played with Russians a lot. Sometimes they're good, sometimes they're bad. My main gripe is rarely with how they play, but rather that they're usually completely unwilling to try and communicate.
    This can be really annoying indeed, but it's not related to Russians only. I don't mind someone making mistakes or feeding (unintentionally), but when I use the setting to be matched only with people who speak English I expect the others to do the same and queue only for the regions/languages they know/want to communicate in. I mean the only thing worse that a Pudge that can't land a hook to save his life is a Pudge that can't land a hook to save his life who constantly spams the chat in Russian, Portuguese, Spanish, Chinese or whatever other langue that the other 4/5th of his team don't understand.

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    The most infuriating is getting 4/5 Russians and not one of them understand English, or flat out don't care. I'm only queued for English, mind you...

  13. #10853
    This discussion kind of relates to what I was trying to say in this post and then expanded on in this post. Not speaking/refusing to speak English does not automatically make a player bad, but it can be very frustrating when you can't communicate with half of your team because they do/will not speak English. It gets even more frustrating when you can't communicate with them and they are lousy players, because then you can't even attempt to help them. I'm more than happy to try to teach new players (I'm pretty sure I even have a couple of teaching commendations!), but I can't when we don't speak the same language.

    Like you guys said, this is completely avoidable if they'd just set their preferred language, but plenty don't.
    Last edited by noteworthynerd; 2013-09-13 at 12:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noteworthynerd View Post
    This discussion kind of relates to what I was trying to say in this post and then expanded on in this post. Not speaking/refusing to speak English does not automatically make a player bad, but it can be very frustrating when you can't communicate with half of your team because they do/will not speak English. It gets even more frustrating when you can't communicate with them and they are lousy players, because then you can't even attempt to help them. I'm more than happy to try to teach new players (I'm pretty sure I even have a couple of teaching commendations!), but I can't when we don't speak the same language.

    Like you guys said, this is completely avoidable if they'd just set their preferred language, but plenty don't.
    are you really supporting the russians
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    are you really supporting the russians
    I don't think you read the same post I did if that's what you got from it.

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    Meh nationality has little to do with actual skill of the player, also they got matched with you so chances are they are of equal skill anyway.

    Communication is all I want. Only the other day I had some Russian mid laning and he kept saying stuff in Russian on his mic and never called missing. Near the end of the match when the blame game started one of the other players chimed in (who spoke English but also understood Russian) and mentioned that he had been calling missing. In Russian.

    That's what annoys me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scummer View Post
    Meh nationality has little to do with actual skill of the player
    Russia is like 20% of the player base. they had 1 team at ti3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Russia is like 20% of the player base. they had 1 team at ti3
    how is that relevant at all unless that is the skill level you are playing dota pubs at
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  19. #10859
    What it comes down to is the Russians have their own servers and yet they play on the eu east/west servers and fuck over people that are trying to communicate in English.

  20. #10860
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Russia is like 20% of the player base. they had 1 team at ti3
    Yes, but a lot of the people that get called 'Russians' aren't necessarily from Russia, just a Russian-speaking (or another language that uses cyrillic) country. Consider that TI3 had almost 2 teams worth of players from Ukraine, which is almost as many as Americans. Now consider that all Ukrainian Dota 2 players almost outnumber all American players and suddenly it's pretty hard to use TI3 representation to make an argument for nationality having anything to do with skill.
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