1. #3401
    Quote Originally Posted by Hermanni View Post
    No hero in the game does everything great either, but you already knew that.


    Wasn't diretide supposed to end the 12th?
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  2. #3402
    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaSHARK View Post
    Exactly. Stormbolt-style stuns, which require no real skill on the caster's part, should not do as much damage as they currently do. You're getting a stun that doesn't have to be aimed or positioned ahead of time - you should not also get a powerful nuke with the package. It should do some damage, but it really shouldn't be competitive with more dedicated nuke skills, which don't have a disable. I'd probably experiment with a 10% damage nerf (about 90/158/203/270 damage or so) to all stormbolt-style skills and see where that leaves things.
    I understand what your saying but I agree with Varix. My reasoning lies with Skeleton Kings stun. Its "storm bolt" style as you put it. but its Damage is reduced because of a dot that deals very minuscule damage and slows. If all "Storm bolt" style stuns followed this, it would hinder some hero play styles. Like Svens, who's current stun hits in an aoe and hits the main target fairly hard, which is in line with that hero's play style - cleaving with large dmg.

  3. #3403
    Quote Originally Posted by Longview View Post
    Wasn't diretide supposed to end the 12th?
    Pretty sure, yeah. My egg is gone from my steam inventory at least, haven't had time to check ingame.

  4. #3404
    Quote Originally Posted by Lycoris View Post
    Pretty sure, yeah. My egg is gone from my steam inventory at least, haven't had time to check ingame.
    11PM Valve time was nine and a half hours ago. Chests have yet to actually expire.

    I guess I'll keep on farming, hoping for some unusual essences.

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  5. #3405
    Quote Originally Posted by Longview View Post
    11PM Valve time was nine and a half hours ago. Chests have yet to actually expire.

    I guess I'll keep on farming, hoping for some unusual essences.
    No I'm pretty sure 11 PM Valve time is about 3 years into the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichy View Post
    I understand what your saying but I agree with Varix. My reasoning lies with Skeleton Kings stun. Its "storm bolt" style as you put it. but its Damage is reduced because of a dot that deals very minuscule damage and slows. If all "Storm bolt" style stuns followed this, it would hinder some hero play styles. Like Svens, who's current stun hits in an aoe and hits the main target fairly hard, which is in line with that hero's play style - cleaving with large dmg.
    Leoric's stun does the same 300 damage as Sven's. It's dealt over time instead of up front, but that can be an advantage in some ways (eats refraction charges, breaks blink dagger, etc.)

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    Well, whatever. Combined with the moronic shit I've seen in recent pro games coupled with the usual bullshit of pubs, I'm done with Dota. If Icefrog can't get his head out of his ass and figure out how to fix all the stupid, no-skill-required bullshit mechanics in that game, it ain't worth the time.

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  7. #3407
    Pendragon released the database to dota-allstars.com earlier today. Most images are lost, but all posts are still there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longview View Post
    Pendragon released the database to dota-allstars.com earlier today. Most images are lost, but all posts are still there.
    Only took him three years...

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  9. #3409
    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaSHARK View Post
    Well, whatever. Combined with the moronic shit I've seen in recent pro games coupled with the usual bullshit of pubs, I'm done with Dota. If Icefrog can't get his head out of his ass and figure out how to fix all the stupid, no-skill-required bullshit mechanics in that game, it ain't worth the time.

    Hermanni, Lysah, the rest - nice talking to you.
    Considering the amount absurd or vague complaints you've spouted and the amount of disrespect you've showered at Icefrog it's about time. Perhaps one day you will pull your head out of whichever cavity it's been stuck in, master the 'no-skill mechanics' and come back with less QQ.

    If you need some perspective on game balance, however, I recommend checking out HoN.

    @Longview: Tide does a lot of things well, besides carrying, but he is great at only a few of them.

    I don't know what Pendragon is trying to achieve with his stunt, I seriously doubt he will ever redeem himself in the eyes of the dota community. This is the comment his posted in reddit about it: http://www.reddit.com/r/DOTA/comment...stored/c70dlon
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  10. #3410
    Pendragon at his finest

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    i heard that chess is pretty balanced not sure tho devs slacking with updateds lately

  11. #3411
    Quote Originally Posted by Hermanni View Post
    @Longview: Tide does a lot of things well, besides carrying, but he is great at only a few of them.
    Yeah, that was a joke.

    Quote Originally Posted by llDemonll View Post
    Only took him three years...
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  12. #3412
    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaSHARK View Post
    Leoric's stun does the same 300 damage as Sven's. It's dealt over time instead of up front, but that can be an advantage in some ways (eats refraction charges, breaks blink dagger, etc.)

    ---------- Post added 2012-11-13 at 11:08 AM ----------

    Well, whatever. Combined with the moronic shit I've seen in recent pro games coupled with the usual bullshit of pubs, I'm done with Dota. If Icefrog can't get his head out of his ass and figure out how to fix all the stupid, no-skill-required bullshit mechanics in that game, it ain't worth the time.

    Hermanni, Lysah, the rest - nice talking to you.
    would you be as kind as to elaborate on your view on how and what is unbalanced in dota besides imba-stuns?
    pretty please?


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    i heard that chess is pretty balanced not sure tho devs slacking with updateds lately
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  13. #3413
    Chess is totally unbalanced, the devs should work on the inherent advantage of playing white.

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    Sorry, two years.

    Either way, it's a lousy cop-out that "he ran out of time" when his site was an ad for LoL. He moved to Riot, and abused his site in doing so.

    It doesn't take two years to move web servers, it takes a competent, semi-motivated person a week at most

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  15. #3415
    Is ThisisBob's Axe guide still alive? That was probably greatest thread ever written on dota-allstars. Sniff, i still remember double/triple Aegis strategy, one of most imbalanced things ever in history of gaming.

  16. #3416
    Quote Originally Posted by Hermanni View Post
    Stacking stuns was a great mid-tier HoN strategy (which I suppose applies to dota too), after that it will cease to be as effective.
    ....wat? Pro lineups stack stuns just as much as anyone else. The team with the bigger stuns almost always wins. This applies to all high level skill brackets, it's usually the lower skill brackets where it does not, because an Ursa or Wolf can just get a BKB and 1v5.

    Also:
    Saw the pendragon stuff, easily #1 on my most hated member of the video game community. He's always been full of himself and was a major jackass from the minute he took over TDA PR. I agree with most of what was said in the reddit thread. Some of us have been with DotA since it was created, and many of us do have long memories. The name Pendragon will never be anything but a sour taste in my mouth, unfortunately for King Arthur. I have so many things I wish I could say on these forums.
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  17. #3417
    Why was Centaur let loose? He is so absurdly unkillable thats not funny. On lvl 11 he idles at over 1100 hp with not a single Strength item. On lvl 18 he had no Strength item and still had more HP than the equal lvl huskar with some strength items. And when you get him down, he can pop his ulti and just run away. And dont make me talk about Double Edge. I know he is banned in Captains Mode but why was he even put in game, somebody must have seen how op he is.

  18. #3418
    Quote Originally Posted by Faldric View Post
    Why was Centaur let loose? He is so absurdly unkillable thats not funny. On lvl 11 he idles at over 1100 hp with not a single Strength item. On lvl 18 he had no Strength item and still had more HP than the equal lvl huskar with some strength items. And when you get him down, he can pop his ulti and just run away. And dont make me talk about Double Edge. I know he is banned in Captains Mode but why was he even put in game, somebody must have seen how op he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faldric View Post
    Why was Centaur let loose? He is so absurdly unkillable thats not funny. On lvl 11 he idles at over 1100 hp with not a single Strength item. On lvl 18 he had no Strength item and still had more HP than the equal lvl huskar with some strength items. And when you get him down, he can pop his ulti and just run away. And dont make me talk about Double Edge. I know he is banned in Captains Mode but why was he even put in game, somebody must have seen how op he is.
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