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    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaSHARK View Post
    He's not a carry any more than Nightstalker or Spiritbreaker are carries. He's got a powerhouse midgame but he drops like a sack of rocks past that midgame sweet spot and basically becomes a debuff bot to soften up targets for a team's REAL carry.
    Right. I think people are referring too often to performance in your average PUB where anybody could be a powerhouse against the right group. Hell we had a beyond Godlike Silencer last night that was basically soloing their entire team and letting everyone else push. Think he was nearing 50 kills before the other team just gave up and afk'd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryngo Blackratchet View Post
    Right. I think people are referring too often to performance in your average PUB where anybody could be a powerhouse against the right group. Hell we had a beyond Godlike Silencer last night that was basically soloing their entire team and letting everyone else push. Think he was nearing 50 kills before the other team just gave up and afk'd.
    Silencer can carry though. Moreso than either NS or SB in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finear View Post
    why this cap is not in store ;c ?
    Not sure, but you can get it from chests! I opened a chest and traded for ze hat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lycoris View Post
    Silencer can carry though. Moreso than either NS or SB in my opinion.
    Agreed. Let's not forget that in low skill (note: anything other than skillcapped) games the carry usually just ends up being the guy who gets waaaaay more gold than anyone else. I've carried with Pugna just for fun before (his attack was a lot better in DotA1 imo). This won't work in TI3, but you can probably pull it off on a smurf account. It follows that Pugna is probably not actually a good carry, but that "carry" can be redefined as "strongest guy on the map" when the skill level discrepancy in a particular game is very large.

    SB is a much better carry now that his bash can hit for some 200 or whatever damage. Viper is still not a good carry, as I have said in the past, the ability of a hero to carry is largely dependent on its attack modifiers. Drow gets extreme damage buffs, Sniper gets headshot and huge range, Luna gets glaive bounce and some damage, SA gets backstab, PL gets images, PA gets crits...in this sense, all Viper gets is 128 damage EXCEPT it doesn't actually work until they're almost already dead. You can only really expect an average of maybe 30-60 when it counts. Silencer is a fantastic carry because he will get 100+ PURE damage per hit from his glaives. Unfortunately, like other int carries (OD) he is completely crippled by enemy BKBs or a silence (ironic).

    As far as Magnus goes...blink/bfury/buriza/MoM, AC if you still somehow haven't won.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everything Nice View Post
    Not sure, but you can get it from chests! I opened a chest and traded for ze hat.
    Which chest series was it? The holiday ones? I think I must have this.



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  6. #5166
    Quote Originally Posted by Hermanni View Post
    Which chest series was it? The holiday ones? I think I must have this.
    The latest, was released today. Expires January 29th I believe.

    Treasure of Dark Implements, Series #22

    That one!

    Can also contain a new mount for Thrall

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everything Nice View Post
    Not sure, but you can get it from chests! I opened a chest and traded for ze hat.
    yeah i know but im unlucky so far ;/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermanni View Post
    Which chest series was it? The holiday ones? I think I must have this.
    I've got one of those chests lurking around in my inventory if you want it. Up to you to get a matching key, though!
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    I also do landscaping on weekends with some mexican kid that I "hired". He's real good because he's 100% obedient to me and does everything I say while never complaining. He knows that I am the man in the relationship and is completely submissive towards me as he should be.
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    How would you build gorgon? It seems like split shot + stats is a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuntantee View Post
    How would you build gorgon? It seems like split shot + stats is a good idea.
    shield/snake+stats
    split shot is a waste of skill points early on
    Last edited by Finear; 2013-01-11 at 09:25 PM.

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    Snake/stats, shield at 8, no point in keeping shield up at level 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuntantee View Post
    How would you build gorgon? It seems like split shot + stats is a good idea.
    I go stats at level 1, then mana shield to level 2-3 and ulti at level 6 if I am against a lane with killing potential(Like Tiny+Wisp etc) or against a trilane.

    If on a lane where I am decently safe on I go stats level 1, then max snake asap. I go 1 point into manashield at level 3 for a safety-net, but stats at level 6 instead of ulti. Then get ulti/mana shield after skilling snake to full.

  13. #5173
    You are missing out on the Tiny carry in this Dignitas vs Liquid game Lysah:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Longview View Post
    You are missing out on the Tiny carry in this Dignitas vs Liquid game Lysah:
    Satanic is new, but everything else is pretty standard. Tiny's scepter upgrade is really, really overpowered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Cailan Ebonheart View Post
    I also do landscaping on weekends with some mexican kid that I "hired". He's real good because he's 100% obedient to me and does everything I say while never complaining. He knows that I am the man in the relationship and is completely submissive towards me as he should be.
    Quote Originally Posted by SUH View Post
    Crissi the goddess of MMO, if i may. ./bow

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    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaSHARK View Post
    Satanic is new, but everything else is pretty standard. Tiny's scepter upgrade is really, really overpowered.
    you what mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaSHARK View Post
    Satanic is new, but everything else is pretty standard. Tiny's scepter upgrade is really, really overpowered.
    Its the only reason he can carry
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    Gamon spends more time of his knees and back than haris pilton...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidulgaa View Post
    Its the only reason he can carry
    Why does he need to carry?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Cailan Ebonheart View Post
    I also do landscaping on weekends with some mexican kid that I "hired". He's real good because he's 100% obedient to me and does everything I say while never complaining. He knows that I am the man in the relationship and is completely submissive towards me as he should be.
    Quote Originally Posted by SUH View Post
    Crissi the goddess of MMO, if i may. ./bow

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    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaSHARK View Post
    Tiny's scepter upgrade is really, really overpowered.
    I'm starting to feel like I should just ignoring these, it's not even funny any more.



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    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaSHARK View Post
    Why does he need to carry?
    Because Icefrog wants him to be a carry
    Therefore, he needs to be able to carry
    Quote Originally Posted by icylock View Post
    Gamon spends more time of his knees and back than haris pilton...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermanni View Post
    I'm starting to feel like I should just ignoring these, it's not even funny any more.
    I'm starting to wonder if you're ever serious. Tiny gets more out of his scepter upgrade than anyone else, to the extent that it basically allows him to fill an entirely new role for the team, transitioning from a midgame ganker powerhouse to a lategame base-wrecking cleave carry.

    No one else's scepter upgrade is that dramatic, or that powerful. So why is Tiny's? What's the justification for it being so much stronger than other scepter upgrades? Hell, Clockwerk's scepter is halfway to useless now, since literally the only thing it does is reduce the cooldown on his ulti.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Cailan Ebonheart View Post
    I also do landscaping on weekends with some mexican kid that I "hired". He's real good because he's 100% obedient to me and does everything I say while never complaining. He knows that I am the man in the relationship and is completely submissive towards me as he should be.
    Quote Originally Posted by SUH View Post
    Crissi the goddess of MMO, if i may. ./bow

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