Computer Forum Chat Thread

[Xuvial]

I plan to upgrade when Broadwell releases and I sincerely hope Intel don't fuck-around with the soldier/lid process just to skew temps and make overclocking difficult. No dick moves pls Intel.

[Butler to Baby Sloths]

Well yes, tetris, I do want a lot of things that come with the chipset, I just am annoyed by the fact that some people can barely even cool a 4.4GHz clocked Haswell i5/i7, much less anything higher.

I'm horrified of delidding, so if I can avoid it, I will.

But they are going to be moving some part off the CPU now? O.o

The VRM is being moved off-die in the next 1150 release (Broadwell, right?).

[BicycleMafioso]

The VRM is being moved off-die in the next 1150 release (Broadwell, right?).

Haswell refresh. Which is looking to not be the same as broadwell at this time, but pre-release information is usually sketchy at best.
Broadwell is still looking to be BGA.

[Majesticii]

Well yes, tetris, I do want a lot of things that come with the chipset, I just am annoyed by the fact that some people can barely even cool a 4.4GHz clocked Haswell i5/i7, much less anything higher

Even at 4.4ghz, it's still the better option.

I've seen benchmarks on youtube where the amd fx 8350 performs 3 times better. Arma 2 37 fps with amd and 13 fps with Intel while Arma 2 does only use 2 cores >.<

3 cores, and i know. Even "known" reviewers do this. TekSyndicate's "FX-8350 vs I5-3570K"-video anyone?

[DeltrusDisc]

Haswell refresh. Which is looking to not be the same as broadwell at this time, but pre-release information is usually sketchy at best.
Broadwell is still looking to be BGA.

Oh God, so Broadwell technically won't be available to us builders, you are suggesting?

[Butler to Baby Sloths]

Oh God, so Broadwell technically won't be available to us builders, you are suggesting?

I'm waiting for Skylake - DDR4 on consumer level boards.

[BicycleMafioso]

Pre-release information is sketchy at best.
And things change.







Are what I believe at the moment.

[Faithh]

3 cores, and i know. Even "known" reviewers do this. TekSyndicate's "FX-8350 vs I5-3570K"-video anyone?

I'm wondering how many decided to go for AMD after watching his video :P That would be really stupid making your choice on the hand of that video.

Also Majesticii, the backplate of Corsair's H60/h80 are totally junk; they're barely making proper contact. I could cool a 3930K with higher power draws even, much easier than with a 2600K. I was hitting at 5GHz temps of 90°+ on 1155, compared to a 3930K 4.6GHz@1.34V I could manage it to keep it below 80°. During a long stresstest on my 2600K, the rad never ever felt hot at all but with my 3930K the rad does feel very hot. Some people added some rubber washes to the backplate like he did and gained a temperature difference, like him.

[DeltrusDisc]

I'm waiting for Skylake - DDR4 on consumer level boards.

That is after Broadwell, correct?

[Xuvial]

That is after Broadwell, correct?

It goes Haswell > Haswell refresh > Broadwell > Broadwell refresh > Skylake > Skylake refresh > Xuviblezhcht auf zeiverfehlen dorf Deltressen.

Intel seemed to get more and more obscure as I asked them about the future.

[DeltrusDisc]

Uh, I'm aware you're wrong on that, Xuvial.

Take the last part of the word, that is going to be part of the refresh's name.

Like Sandy Bridge was refreshed as Ivy Bridge.
Haswell should be refreshed as Broadwell.

[Xuvial]

You're right, Broadwell is most likely a Haswell die-shrink from 22nm down to 14nm. Skylake should be a full-blown 14nm architecture, followed by Cannonlake which would be a 10nm refresh.
Wow...10nm. Definitely getting close to that silicon ceiling.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Tick-Tock

[BicycleMafioso]

I'm thinking we don't get Broadwell for desktops, as it isn't on roadmaps.

Well, yes. Should've squeezed out more architectures per die-shrink imho! But also, kind of looking forward to how they'll cope afterwards. A shame they basically screwed over desktops for ultrabooks tho.

[DeltrusDisc]

Intel has abandoned us!

[Cyanotical]

Windows performance index is acting weird.
I'm getting 8.3 in every category. That can't be right, considering it should use the HD4600 for desktop graphical.

mine is 4.3 for graphics -_-

[Deleted]

wohoo likely found a very good deal for some SSD overkill.
two 256Gb vectors for just over the price of one. (still sealed even)

[DeltrusDisc]

Weren't Vectors the kinda shitty ones? =S Or am I thinking of a different OCZ series?

[BicycleMafioso]

I would call them the bestest ones OCZ makes consumer side.

[Butler to Baby Sloths]

I think it was the Agility and Octane series that used the questionable Sandforce controller.

[Deleted]

I think it was the Agility and Octane series that used the questionable Sandforce controller.

exactly and petrol was also quite a hit or miss kind of drive.
the vector is pretty much the equal/better of the 840 pro whilst slightly more expensive in official retail prices. (however since pricing is different it's a no brainer for me)
kinda interested to see how playing with raid on these drives works.