I think a yellow keyboard like that would actually make me feel sick.
So i just saw this review on Anandtech, about choosing a gaming CPU. They had some...questionable benchmarks and odd idea's just how CPU tests are done.
I dont even...
Just how far are they going to push this "real world benchmarking" idea. This is flippin' retarded.
tommorow the last piece of the watercooling puzzle will finally arrive! (assuming ups doesn't show up when i'm at school)
also as usual , murphy is right regarding timing.
the week when i have to do shitloads of schoolwork the worst distraction arrives.
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It's not a misconception, that's the point. A 4670K IS going to give you a better experience overall compared to a FX-8350. It's just annoying that this type of benchmarking only demonstrates the GPU's capability, not the CPU. This benchmark would have people believe a 3930K gives you roughly the same fps as a 5800K. Which is ofcourse, rediculous.
How is this testing the GPU? What they say in the graph is "CPU doesn't matter". I would agree.
Why is it ridiculous? FPS is FPS. That's what people wants to know.
Outside of Wow and heavily graphical RTS, Intel has no inherent benefit over AMD. CPU is growing less and less important in gaming. Which is great. And AMD's CPUs is more than good enough. Are they weaker CPUs? Sure. But so is 4670K compared to 4960X. It's still no point in going for the 4960x if you intend to game, and the same could be said between FX 8320 and i5 4670K; You can't apply the same logic once and then disregard it in the same identical occurence. the i5 is stronger than the FX, yes. Does it matter for most gaming? No. Is it thus a "waste" spending that extra money on the i5 over the FX if your primary intent is gaming? Definitely, yes.
Then you can disqualify that by saying that you like intel's better, and that you want a stronger CPU and that is fine*. But it's the exact same scenario and you still draw two different conclusions.
(This is not directed at anyone specific, I'm just thinking aloud.)
* = I chose the i7 4770K, I guess that should tell you about my preference. I don't intend to lie to myself though.
Went to a beard festival last night!
The "Inaugural Chicago Beardsmen Oktobeard Fest!!!" It was charitable to raising money for a bearded brethren's medical issues and was hosted at a place that servers SUPERBLY RARE AND AMAZING CRAFT BEERS! How could it get better? By having people compete with their beards!
Thus, I thought I'd share a couple pictures with you all, my closest computer forum nerdy brethren from around the world! Cheers!!
The general crowd:
Got third place in the Natural Goatee section!
The fine gentlemen I lost to!
Head on over to this Facebook page for pictures of all the fine beards and beardettes!
I rekon a 4670K beating the FX8350 by roughly double the framerate. Which would be VERY important for a 120HZ setup. Were it not for this game in the whole review, you would not come to this same conclusion. In a CPU test, you want to see the CPU's influence or performance in today's popular games. You want to see if it can reach that 120fps, or has sufficient performance to make use of that expensive CF/SLI setup. To not see your framerate stay the same after upgrading to two graphics cards, wondering what is wrong. If i want to see how well Sleeping dogs scales on CF, or how much framerate a HD7970 reaches at 1440p max settings i'd watch a HD7970 review..
Depending on the game it sort of matters, but yeah it's not a huge amount.
But this still doesn't give you ANY indication on the performance difference whatsoever. Why would you not be interested in performance differences or achieveable framerates with different processors. This way of thinking, and benching, is seriously narrowminded. You have no guarantee that you will be able to reach 60fps in newer, more demanding games released shortly after. Because you have no clue on relative performance. Look at the X4 series struggling in BF4 now:
When the (then) same priced i5-760 still achieves a reasonable framerate. You invested the same, but the AMD system is already unplayable. Relevant data, is relevant. You will see this same difference in about a year, between the 3570K/4670K and the FX-8350. When they cost relatively the same now.
I seriously despise the method of CPU testing these days. Because you cannot see the difference properly. Honestly, i think they do this to create a market for both processors. Because when the FX series goes toe-to-toe with the i5's on low settings, it's shameful just how bad they are.
I really do not see the problem here. They show that CPU does not matter in that game. Case closed.
I personally only managed to get two beers that night, though I am DEFINITELY returning this coming Thursday for a special Dogfish Head release party for the 120 Minute IPA! I had to depend on my bud this night for beer, seeing how I couldn't get my check deposited from work until tomorrow, yes, I'm pissed off about that, and I am broke otherwise. He graciously bought me a couple, seeing as I drove us the whole 40 miles there and 40 miles back! Plus, had I not had a friend invite me to go, he would not have known, either!
I started my night out with a lovely snifter of Bell's Brewery's 2012 Vintage Expedition Russian Imperial Stout. One sniff and taste of that and I just proclaimed, "holy shit!" Chocolate, coffee, all the robust malty flavors with alcohol burns to finish, that a Russian imperial stout should have. It was truly a one of a kind beer! Absolutely DELICIOUS!
The other beer, which I would say was far less impressive but still tasty, was a crazy-named Allagash I could not begin to figure out, but it was essentially a rather fruity saison-style, by the flavor and mouth-feel of it.
(Kamelot is a band from Tampa, Florida, with singer from Sweden! )
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Oh, I suppose I should add, this was the reward for the best in show!
The President or one of the guys behind Chicago Beardsmen brews his own beer and basically said, hey, this could be a fancy reward! And so it was.
You can't force your opinion and then close the case. Essentially saying that whatever i'm going to say next is irrevant since you're right, and i'm wrong. I didn't get the memo saying that being a forumadmin makes your opinion in arguments any more esteemed. So please, no 'holier than thou' act.
And it is especially annoying when you consider the pricedifference between the FX-8350 and the i5-4670K. It is virtually non-existant. So why would you opt for the 8core having 50% less IPC.
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Unrelated, ASUS denied my service because the card doesn't originate from my country, but from a neighbouring country (Germany). Probably the most lousy customer support i've ever witnessed.