The Brutes Tavern: Warrior Discussion Thread

[Speedy92286]

I have to say, the greatsword really drew me into a warrior. I am trying to figure out an off-hand, but a tiny asura causing havoc with a sword bigger than she is is just too priceless. I was thinking a long bow to give me some distance, but I am not totally sold on it yet.

[iCandy]

As a matter of fact, you can use mace/axe or sword/axe, not only axe/axe and still HAVE that bladestormy thing!
That makes axe both in Main Hand good for the very nice burst skill, but also in Offhand when dual wielding, for the amazingness of the 5th skill (not to mention that 4th skill does very nice stuff). The sword as offhand was never something I liked, but the mace is okay, the axe is orgasm though.

Yeah, but if you don't have and axe in MH you don't get Eviscerate. Which is an amazing skill. Flurry(sword MH) is nice, but the leap you get from Eviscerate is pretty awesome, plus the raw damage it does.

[Hjalmtyr]

I just feel swords are a bit flimsy. I've always been one for axes, personally. I think that it's the most efficient weapon - Through time, man has utilised generally 2 weapons: Sharp things and heavy things. But what if you made something sharp and heavy? Swings like a mace, cleaves like a sword - Except it's easier to swing than a mace and it hits harder than a sword.

For me, the axe is just the perfect melee weapon. It's such a brutal and deadly looking weapon - I just don't feel threatened by swords and maces because swords feel paper and weightless and maces feel like all they're gonna do is give you a headache and a few bruises. Axes? Axes will cut you in half, son.

[Meledelion]

Yeah, but if you don't have and axe in MH you don't get Eviscerate. Which is an amazing skill. Flurry(sword MH) is nice, but the leap you get from Eviscerate is pretty awesome, plus the raw damage it does.

Ofc you are right regarding not having eviscerate but going with mace/axe + axe/shield (something I tested rigorously) you can 'bait' dodges.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/en/?fIAQRApX3OAA
Pommel(3)=>Dual(4)=>Skull(f1)=>Whirling(5)=>swap=>Cyclone(2)=>Shield(4)=>Evis(f1) Destroys people and you hardly take any damage.

If you're into more damage with a tad less control you can go axe/mace + mace/shield (you can't avoid damage in both sets, you rely on timed swaps more)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/en/?fIAQRApe3JAA
Throw(3)=>Crushing(4)=>Cyclone(2)=>Tremor(5)=>Evis(f1)

I didn't play around with the sword but from what I hear sword/axe + mace/shield with high crit racks up bleeds after which you play in defense set.

edit:
This is all regarding PvP
edit2: It's so funny that the second build has the word RAPE in it's link

[Glytch]

I just feel swords are a bit flimsy. I've always been one for axes, personally. I think that it's the most efficient weapon - Through time, man has utilised generally 2 weapons: Sharp things and heavy things. But what if you made something sharp and heavy? Swings like a mace, cleaves like a sword - Except it's easier to swing than a mace and it hits harder than a sword.

For me, the axe is just the perfect melee weapon. It's such a brutal and deadly looking weapon - I just don't feel threatened by swords and maces because swords feel paper and weightless and maces feel like all they're gonna do is give you a headache and a few bruises. Axes? Axes will cut you in half, son.

i prefer daggers

they so small, so delicate yet....

they fit into such small places you wouldnt think of!

[iCandy]

Ofc you are right regarding not having eviscerate but going with mace/axe + axe/shield (something I tested rigorously) you can 'bait' dodges.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/en/?fIAQRApX3OAA
Pommel(3)=>Dual(4)=>Skull(f1)=>Whirling(5)=>swap=>Cyclone(2)=>Shield(4)=>Evis(f1) Destroys people and you hardly take any damage.

If you're into more damage with a tad less control you can go axe/mace + mace/shield (you can't avoid damage in both sets, you rely on timed swaps more)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/en/?fIAQRApe3JAA
Throw(3)=>Crushing(4)=>Cyclone(2)=>Tremor(5)=>Evis(f1)

I didn't play around with the sword but from what I hear sword/axe + mace/shield with high crit racks up bleeds after which you play in defense set.

edit:
This is all regarding PvP
edit2: It's so funny that the second build has the word RAPE in it's link

Nice theory crafting. I like it. Will definitely bookmark these builds.

[Sethorian]

I am having trouble finding good builds and traits that benefit greatsword builds without making the warrior feel too squishy. Tried going 25/30/0/0/15 with axe/axe on second set(i am also tempted in rolling with a rifle on the second set) but i found my warrior to be very squishy. Would appreciate some input and help on GS builds.
I was thinking on testing this when i get the chance: http://gw2skills.net/editor/en/?fIAQ...kOtwYUwJjNBPEA

[Ecstatic]

I just feel swords are a bit flimsy. I've always been one for axes, personally. I think that it's the most efficient weapon - Through time, man has utilised generally 2 weapons: Sharp things and heavy things. But what if you made something sharp and heavy? Swings like a mace, cleaves like a sword - Except it's easier to swing than a mace and it hits harder than a sword.

For me, the axe is just the perfect melee weapon. It's such a brutal and deadly looking weapon - I just don't feel threatened by swords and maces because swords feel paper and weightless and maces feel like all they're gonna do is give you a headache and a few bruises. Axes? Axes will cut you in half, son.

Swords can be more deadly than axes due to piercing potential from longer range than an axe. But in game I just don't like the offhand sword abilities tbh.

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Very nice builds, will try them out.
Especially like the mace/shield , never even thought of this combo. very nice control

[Meledelion]

I am having trouble finding good builds and traits that benefit greatsword builds without making the warrior feel too squishy. Tried going 25/30/0/0/15 with axe/axe on second set(i am also tempted in rolling with a rifle on the second set) but i found my warrior to be very squishy. Would appreciate some input and help on GS builds.
I was thinking on testing this when i get the chance: http://gw2skills.net/editor/en/?fIAQ...kOtwYUwJjNBPEA

I think the biggest issues you'll have are that both weaponsets sort of fulfill the same role (something I personally hate as people who visit the guardian thread know ). Meaning they have the same offensive and defensive mechanics and thus similar weak spots.
Some other issues:
You can't buff both axe/axe and gs damange in an efficient/optimal way, axe/axe relies on +crit dmg axe in mainhand and +dmg using offhand and you can't take both when using a gs. Similarly the gs needs what you got.

I doubt that kd counts as stun so +50crit vs stunned doesn't help out.

You're feeling squishy due to being squishy, you've got 55points into offensive traits and 15 into defensive traits.

The most popular gs build atm is gs/axe+shield. I don't know the traits out of my head sadly enough.

[Sethorian]

then i see the point of the shield there, for the evi crit... How would a rifle or a hammer work out instead of axe/axe. I know hammer is very good for area control, rifle i am not quite sure, maybe it's good for chasing?

[Meledelion]

They're both very viable options. You've got the right idea hammer is kd oriented (duh) and rifle is chase/keep away oriented. Afaik the hammer would be better than the rifle to complement the GS. Since the hammer can buy you time to heal and avoid damage straight away whilst the rifle requires you to create distance, which you would do with riffle butt after which anyone will use a gapcloser (all classes have one) meaning you're still not out of danger for another 15sec. And the criple is a bit lackluser. If you add to this that if you're fighting a ranged class your rifle won't really help out that much it becoems even more clear.

The axe+shield is awesome due to having eviscerate, vulnerability, cripple, stun and a block mechanic. The rifle only has cripple knockback and the hammer has weaken, cripple, knockback and kd*2 but the later skills are all on a fairly long cd.

So axe seems to be the best weapon due to the synergy on both offensive and defensive fields.

TLDR: for gs/x you're best off if where x= axe+shield>hammer>rifle

[Sethorian]

yeah i got it. Thanks for the feedback

[Menkey]

rife/axe+warhorn = very fun build.

[Ecstatic]

I am thinking of playing with Greatsword/Dual Axe(or sword/axe) and full signet build in PvE with the (+40precision per unused signet) build.
I'm confident it'll be strong but the lack of ranged weapons in this setup makes me unsettled.
Having a Longbow available just in case would make things better imo, but I cannot decide which to be changing, the axes or greatsword?

Also, did the Longbow 5th skill animation change somewhere? I remember in a video of a charr warrior the 5th was like a volley of arrows which was too awesome but in the last events I played it was nothing like it. Will it go back to being awesome?

[Oglok]

We don't have volleys of arrows with the longbow, only the ranger has it.
5th skill is Pin Down, to immobilize a target.

I really like the 3rd skill, Arcing arrow, more of a mortar than an actual arrow. Really noisy.

[Ecstatic]

We don't have volleys of arrows with the longbow, only the ranger has it.
5th skill is Pin Down, to immobilize a target.

I really like the 3rd skill, Arcing arrow, more of a mortar than an actual arrow. Really noisy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRVfGUYbSGo

This is probably old, but this spell is what I meant.

[Dodrin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRVfGUYbSGo

This is probably old, but this spell is what I meant.

Yea that must've been before the press beta even. It wasn't in the final closed beta, so it's definitely an old spell.

[PonyCannon]

Wow thate video still has the mana potion bar thingy for dodge, really ancient, like before press betas ancient. Though I actually never saw it before, so that was cool

[Ecstatic]

Wow thate video still has the mana potion bar thingy for dodge, really ancient, like before press betas ancient. Though I actually never saw it before, so that was cool

It was one of the first warrior videos I seen, I was impressed by the sheer awesomeness a warrior with a bow could display.
Now I am sad there isn't such thing Well, there's always the rifle ...

[Larynx]

It was one of the first warrior videos I seen, I was impressed by the sheer awesomeness a warrior with a bow could display.
Now I am sad there isn't such thing Well, there's always the rifle ...

Longbow is actually incredibly viable, and specced correctly has equal or greater damage than a rifle.