Guarding the Gate Boss (there is one in almost every raid, probably a mechanical thing)
Wing 1 (two of the bosses must die to proceed you may kill all three however)
Warlord Zaela and Gorchuk (you fight them at the same time)
A Random Sha
From here Garrosh's whereabouts are unknown but there are three separate trouble makers in the city trying to take advantage of the battle, you may deal with any of the three wings in any order you choose.
Hozen Zeppelin fight (the new monkey race, they are protecting Gallywix as he flies off in a Zeppelin, you chase him on a Zeppelin)
Gallywix (Both the Zeppelins crash and Gallywix hops in an ultra Goblin machine)
Four Valk'yrs (Sylvanus is trying to raise the dead in Orgimmar into scourge to take over it with the Valks, you have to kill the Valks before you go kill her
The location of Garrosh is finally located and you have to head to the Ring of Valor
Jaina Proudmoore - Being in the battle she has finally lost it and is killing any orc/horde she sees not just the ones sided with Garrosh. You have to kill/almost kill her
High Warlord Cromush (guarding the entrance to the ring)
Sha of War/Garrosh (Garrosh is now taken over by the Sha of War and isn't even in his natural state, he is one with it)
If someone mentioned before... sorry ><
Mankrik's wife, because the Barrens was merely a setback!
If we look at the info about the siege of orgrimar i suppose that:
- "Random" Horde commander.
- "Random" famous character from Orgrimar (Gamon/Eitrig/...).
- Any type (with a new or old model) of faceless one.
- Insert here any invention that goblins tinkered, and if can make a BIG BOOM, better.
- Corrupted Garrosh.
+ Other possibilities:
- Manifestation of the Sha.
- Random Alliance character under the influence of the Sha (not kill, but free him from the control/corruption).
Keep in mind that Garrosh wont be killed, but stoped from what he may be doing "down there", and free him from the corruption. I, myself see Thrall wearing the Warchief of the Horde tittle again. what really concerns me is how will act Jaina, the info that Blizz gave scares me (Jaina with white hair? A "moar" dangeorus mage for the Horde? Im starting to remember that topic where people talked about Jaina and her Masterplan for controlling all Azeroth ><).
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What about his annoying generals from Northrend like the one in dragonblight and in Grizzly Hills.
I can see them die quite easily.
Like Conqueror Krenna or Overlord Agmar among other morons we met during 1-60 leveling in Cata.
Some Elite Orc with an aggressive and uninspired name like Ripgrim
A Goblin Alchemist like Putricide with a new experimental Shredder
Taragaman the Hungerer v2.0
A Powerful Searing Blade Warlock
Warlord Zaela (She's quite infatuated with the Warchief, likely enough to take his side)
A captured and corrupted Alliance spy, someone from SI:7, Mathias Shaw?
Rommath (Maybe give Lor'themar a direct reason for an appearance and someone to kill)
A leftover Northrend Yeti+Sha experiment (It'd look awesome)
Sha Controlled Vol'jin, captured in a previous patch for treason
Big Sha manifestation created from the conflict of the previous boss fights
I'd mention the Grimtotem, but I don't think Garrosh would ever forgive Magatha and her tribe, at least not enough to let them into Orgrimmar.
Here's what I'll go with. Some of these are made up characters, so obviously I'm only actually predicting a boss of the same theme.
These bosses may be defeated in any order.
High Warlord Cromush: Main gate
High Warlord Bloodhilt: Azhara gate
Erok'dranda of the Revantusk: West gate
Captain Krazz (for Horde)/High Captain Justin Bartlett (for Alliance): Defensive encounter. You must ensure the Gunship is not shot out of the sky, and the nammed characters are not killed before it can land on the Orgrimmar Skyway. Encounter mostly deals with killing Garrosh loyalist boarding parties.
Flightmaster Doras: The Orgrimmar Flightmaster.
Valley of Wisdom
Warden Karnok: Watches over Tauren and Darkspear prisoners being kept in the Valley of Wisdom. Freeing Tauren prisoners buffs the raid, while troll prisoners will hex the Warden, debuffing him.
Cleft of Shadows
Pit Lord Oblivioth: Summoned and controlled by loyalist Warlocks for use in the war effort. The warlocks themselves are easily dispatched, the Pit Lord...not so much.
Storming of Orgrimmar
Storming of Orgrimmar: This encounter involves assisting attackers in every area of Orgrimmar. Players must quickly respond to requests from potentially any district, some deal with fighting off a loyalist counterattack in an already-secured district, others involve storming a loyalist-held position. The encounter ends when you have dealt with 5 random events without wiping. The longer you take in any one attempt, the more mobs will spawn at each event, creating a de facto enrage timer.
Trade Prince Gallywix: Thought Garrosh was the winning side, did not account for Alliance/Horde teaming up, Thrall not amused by Gallywix's "apology", demands Gallywix give up all claims to his wealth and authority, Gallywix decides to gamble on Garrosh winning after all to keep said wealth and authority, Gallywix does not live for long.
Drakakil: Mogu Warlord allied with Garrosh Hellscream. After the Mogu's recent disastrous attempt to take over Pandaria, Drakakil brought his followers into Garrosh's Horde in exchange for eventual rulership of Pandaria. This encounter takes place just outside of Grommash Hold.
Garrosh Hellscream: Garrosh has become so obsessed over a dream of wold conquest that he is resorting to any and all means to accomplish it. Thrall believes Garrosh has become possessed by an unknown Sha, while Varian believes Garrosh has simply become lost in his own delusions. The truth is not revealed until the end of the encounter.
Remember the lessons of the past, but do not become lost in nostalgia. Seize the moment whenever possible, but not when it could do you great harm down the road. And look to the future as far as you can, but do not become complacent waiting for a brighter future to come to you. For the past, present, and future all have their place in the human psyche, and to see one as superior to the others is the most grievous error a person can make in life.
I would expect to see Magatha raise her head again this expansion, as well as some kind of Goblin oppurtunism. I'm also behind the person who expects a Bloodboil recolour or reskin; we seen that in Blackrock.. Whatever the place is called with Raz the Crazed.
All we need now is a Murloc, riding a giant evil rabbit, riding a devilsaur, riding an undead warlock, riding a shark firing a laser. :/
Agmar is already a killable npc in Isle of Conquest iirc, but I suppose you're right. He has two pet elite wolves as well, already the perfect match up to turn into a semi decent boss fight.Conqueror Krenna or Overlord Agmar
But I hate the idea of going through WoW and picking out npcs that to be killable in raid encounters as canon. Agmar is a harsh man, but I don't see why he should have to die since he has done considerable deed for the Horde, such as commanding a formiddable presence in Northrend. Hmmmm...
I can see where you're coming from, but I'd rather see them try to be a bit more creative. I hope there's a lot of story between now and then to make up for this confusion as to the hows and whys of this Siege taking place.
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Won't this have to be a CoT raid? (Unless they plan to have a new capital for the Horde) And seeing as all the CoT Raids have something to do with lining Thrall up to the 'Aspect Of Earth' Duty. It won't make a lot of sense, Unless Thrall is meant to take mantle and lead everyone against the antagonist of the next expansion (I'm thinking Legion).
What I don't want them to do is take the copout. I think it would be something to have a different ending than Grom.
When the players encounter Garrosh, it is clear that he is possessed by SOMETHING. He is twisted and nasty and has all kinds of crazy powers that are not his own. In the first phase, the players deal with his powers, in the second phase, they work to free him from it with some fight mechanic. But the third phase, I want Garrosh to basically go nuts, and let the players know that in no uncertain terms it was HIM in control of whatever possessed him, that it was his actions alone, and that he had sought out and mastered the corrupting influence, rather than having been mastered by it.
Don't take the easy route of corruption. Don't redeem him. Make him truly believe that he not only does not need it, but has done nothing that would force him to seek it. Let him die 100% the master of his own fate.
LFR PT.1 "Siege of Orgrimmar"
Storm the Beach
The invasion force has arrived on the shores of Durotar, but they will have to defeat Garrosh's forces to secure their position.
Random Orc commander.
Random Orc warlock.
Overlord Runthak (at the Gates)
Siege of Orgrimmar
The invaders have entered Orgrimmar, but Garrosh is nowhere to be found.
Overlord Agmar (in the Throne Room)
Gallywix (attempting to flee in a zeppelin)
High Warlord Cromush (Valley of Wisdom)
LFR PT.2 "Warchief's End"
Pit of Evil
Garrosh resides deep within the Cleft of Shadows.
Ormok (Cleft of Shadow)
Either a faceless one (old god corruption), demon (legion corruption), or undead (political corruption) (trogg area of RFC)
Magatha Grimtotem (felguard area of RFC)
Garrosh Hellscream (back of RFC)
Enter, Go to Palace, go up to the zeppelins, descend into the Valley of Wisdom, go around the back to the Cleft of Shadows, and through RFC.
The Book of Ghost Crab:
And he led them out until [they were] over against Orgrimmar: and he lifted up his hands, and buffed their classes. And it came to pass, while he buffed their classes, he parted from them, and was carried up into the Emerald Dream. And they worshipped him, and returned to the General Forums with great joy.
oooh id like to see a cinematic where sha garrosh is pierce through the heart by voljin and then from behind saurfang jumps above voljin.He heads straight for garrosh and kicks the arrow deeper into his chest and as garrosh falls to the ground clutching the arrow, saurfang mutters "I told you i would not allow you to drive the horde back into its old ways" then cleaves the mother fuckers head off.
god that would be a satisfying end to garrosh and jaina is gonna go pyscho bitch too oooh im tingling from loregasms ^.^
Thrall he just needs to stay his hippy ass out of the picture he had more than enough screen time in cataclysm
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