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    Quote Originally Posted by Theed View Post
    a) Super strong in PVP. Has a lot of potential in arena and rbgs. Can be used while stunned/feared.
    b) I think so. Surge of Light works for Shadowpriests too.
    c) My only real concern. There is no dispel protection. All dispels have a 8 second cooldown tho.
    d) Our survivability got buffed so much. Phantasm is awesome, Spectral Guise is super awesome, Devouring Plague+Vampiric Embrace, Glyph of Dark Binding. Void Tendrils and 4 seconds Psychic Horror on a 45(35+glyph) seconds cooldown..
    And I love Surge of Darkness in pvp.
    Thanks for the feedback Theed!

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    Minor Glyphs in action. I cut Val'kyr a little shorter than I should have, silly me.


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    Glyph of Lightspring....

    Healing for the SAME as Lightwell....

    bwha?



    Worth mentioning that I also tested with multiple targets under 50%, it only heals ONE target a tick... not multiples. Favoring the lowest HP.


    Also Feathers from Heaven got a new shiny animation.

    Last edited by derevka; 2012-05-24 at 09:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theed View Post
    Priest minor glyphs

    Glyph of Confession


    Glyph of the Heavens


    Glyph of Shadowy Friends

    (Yes, Shadowform is looking that bad without the glyph on beta realms right now ..)

    Glyph of the Val'kyr


    ---------- Post added 2012-05-24 at 01:25 PM ----------



    a) Super strong in PVP. Has a lot of potential in arena and rbgs. Can be used while stunned/feared.
    b) I think so. Surge of Light works for Shadowpriests too.
    c) My only real concern. There is no dispel protection. All dispels have a 8 second cooldown tho.
    d) Our survivability got buffed so much. Phantasm is awesome, Spectral Guise is super awesome, Devouring Plague+Vampiric Embrace, Glyph of Dark Binding. Void Tendrils and 4 seconds Psychic Horror on a 45(35+glyph) seconds cooldown..
    And I love Surge of Darkness in pvp.


    Can you explain what you mean when you say that you can use S G while stunned and fear? Does using it BREAK the stun and fear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Direshadow View Post
    Can you explain what you mean when you say that you can use S G while stunned and fear? Does using it BREAK the stun and fear?
    No. You can just have the enemy drop their targets... You're still stunned when invis, so your enemy has just to use one AoE to get you out.
    The spell is still as bad as when it was stil the lvl 87 spell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaesebrezen View Post
    No. You can just have the enemy drop their targets... You're still stunned when invis, so your enemy has just to use one AoE to get you out.
    The spell is still as bad as when it was stil the lvl 87 spell.
    Hm, that's to bad.

    I don't think it's the horrible spell people are making it out to be.

    If you use it in combat as some sort of escape tactic.. yeah it'll be bad...

    I can see it having some uses for preparing for combat... like... I wonder if you can grab the flag while invisible

    If anything you can use it as preparation for when you foresee combat coming. Turn a corner and use it, etc...

    It would be neat if when you used it, the clone would continue to do whatever action you were performing before you used it. For example if you were running towards the flag and used it, your clone would continue to run forward...

    It would throw the enemy off that's for sure.

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    With good timing you could possibly use it to have Rogues, Warriors or DKs waste gap closers. Wasting 1-2 seconds of a 6 second stun is not 'worthless' either. I Imagine it drops enemy focus targets, which can be useful.

    Probably more uses out there if you are creative.

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    I find it weird that Circle of Healing is not on the holy's Core Abilities list whilst Prayer of Mending being on both disc and holy's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puhree View Post
    I find it weird that Circle of Healing is not on the holy's Core Abilities list whilst Prayer of Mending being on both disc and holy's.
    Mending makes sense on both, but Circle of Healing's there as a "Spec" ability (different tab on a website browser), level 50. You actually get it before you get Chakra.

    ---------- Post added 2012-05-27 at 10:13 PM ----------

    Now about that Mindbender nerf...

    a talent point to choose between Archangel (kinda awesome), From Darkness Comes Light (really awesome, especially for Holy), or 5% more mana on four minutes (My Blood Elf racial gives 12% over four minutes)... What the hell is Blizzard thinking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelesti View Post
    What the hell is Blizzard thinking?
    That's the problem - they're not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annesh View Post
    That's the problem - they're not.
    Unless Mindbender no longer replaces Shadowfiend...? I doubt this could happen, but hey, Blizzard's done some pretty messed up things recently.
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    Maybe I'm not thinking clearly because I haven't slept in far too long but I'm not sure where you are getting your info. Currently, Mindbender generates an extra 1% max mana per hit. It hits 10-11 times times over the course of its duration and still deals much more damage. Not 5% extra mana but 10%. Besides, do you really want it to be so good that you feel you have to take it at all times? Remember that you can hotswap talents on the fly very quickly/easily now in much the same way as glyphs. You can pretty much take what's best on a boss by boss basis.

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    As things stand, even when it was double normal Shadowfiend, Mindbender is actually rather weak when compared to FDCL UNLESS you are purely raid healing, so I cannot see where all this notion is coming from that it would be mandatory for healers.

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    I personally won't be making up my mind about what's good/bad/ugly/mandatory until I've had a chance to test all the talents at max level. Healing is the sort of role where Napkin math and gut feelings only go so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cedrich View Post
    You can pretty much take what's best on a boss by boss basis.
    It seems, bluntly, like a talent you need while you're gearing up to raid...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawn Falcon View Post
    It seems, bluntly, like a talent you need while you're gearing up to raid...
    Possible, but does that make it any less valid as a talent? It's situational - exactly what the developers are aiming for with talents. If it's not going to be useful to you, don't take it.

    It's also very strong for Shadow right now, so not as if it'll never be used in its current form.

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    New Build
    Priest changes:

    Archangel: Archangel (Evangelism) Consumes your Evangelism, increasing your healing done by 5% for each Evangelism consumed for 18 sec. 30 sec cooldown. Dark Archangel (Dark Evangelism) Increases the damage done by your Mind Flay, Mind Spike, Mind Blast and Shadow Word: Death by 25% for 24(up from 18) sec. 90 sec cooldown.

    Shadowfiend: Creates a shadowy fiend to attack the target. Caster receives 3% mana when the Shadowfiend attacks. Lasts 12 sec(down from 15; Mindbender still lasts 15 seconds).

    *edit Shadowfiend cooldown reduced to 3 minutes. Thanks to Kaesebrezen.

    Void Tendrils: Summons Shadowy tendrils out of the ground, rooting up to 5 enemy targets(down from all) within 8 yards for 20 sec. Killing the tendril will cancel the effect


    Glyphs

    Glyph of Shadow Ravens: Your Shadow Orbs now appear as Shadow Ravens.
    Glyph of Borrowed Time: Your Borrowed Time is now displayed visually.
    Glyph of Lightspring: Transforms your Lightwell into a Lightspring. Lightspring Creates a Holy Lightspring. Every 1(down from every 5) sec the Lightspring will attempt to heal party and raid members lower than 50% health for 5735 over 6 sec. Attacks done to the target equal to 30% of your total health will cancel the effect. Lightspring lasts for 3 min or until 15 heals are expended.
    Glyph of Shackle Undead: Changes the appearance of your Shackle Undead.
    Glyph of Shadowfiend: You summon 3 small Shadowfiends who each provide a third of the total mana return.

    source: http://www.wowheadnews.com/blog=2038...anges-and-more

    ---------- Post added 2012-05-31 at 09:54 PM ----------

    The current beta Shadowform visual will be fixed too.
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/5593231234#13
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    Dark Archangel buff, cool. Shadowfiend nerf (but not touching Mindbender)? Not cool. Borrowed Time? Shadow Ravens? Shadowfiend? Fucking awesome.

    Lightspring: what the eff Blizz.

    ---------- Post added 2012-05-31 at 04:19 PM ----------

    Undead racial-Underwater Breathing just what?!

    Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
    Touch of the Grave - Your attacks and damaging spells have a chance to drain the target, dealing 13,680 Shadow damage and healing you for the same amount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelesti View Post
    Shadowfiend nerf (but not touching Mindbender)?
    What Theed forgot: Cooldown reduced to 3 minutes (also for Mindbender)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaesebrezen View Post
    What Theed forgot: Cooldown reduced to 3 minutes (also for Mindbender)
    Interesting. From a Shadow perspective, has its damage changed?
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