1. #2361
    Quote Originally Posted by Kelesti View Post
    So with the Sanctuary duration buffed to 30 seconds instead of the cooldown dropped to 30 seconds, was Ghostcrawler hitting the gin again?

    Which one's intended, which one's the devs screwing up?
    The duration is better then the cd; I'm good with that :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venaliter View Post
    The duration is better then the cd; I'm good with that :-)
    This is definitely true. I'm just hoping that some intern didn't push the wrong button and have GC show up when we can actually use the spell and start firing people for "That's not supposed to happen".

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  3. #2363
    Quote Originally Posted by Kelesti View Post
    This is definitely true. I'm just hoping that some intern didn't push the wrong button and have GC show up when we can actually use the spell and start firing people for "That's not supposed to happen".

    I think at this point, the spell is pretty decent. It would be better if it increased healing or reduced damage by 10% to those in it, but that's really just icing on the cake. Holy priests are shaping up pretty well in PvE.

    Of course, I don't theorycraft. Perhaps a wild Derevka will appear with the exact numbers, but my first impression is the spell is a significant HPM/HPS gain in it's niche.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venaliter View Post
    I think at this point, the spell is pretty decent. It would be better if it increased healing or reduced damage by 10% to those in it, but that's really just icing on the cake. Holy priests are shaping up pretty well in PvE.

    Of course, I don't theorycraft. Perhaps a wild Derevka will appear with the exact numbers, but my first impression is the spell is a significant HPM/HPS gain in it's niche.
    Without mastery scaling this is still worse hpm than poh barring extreme haste stacking, but it is definitely higher hps when it is effective.

    Edit: To be more precise, it CAN be more efficient than poh given nearly perfect conditions and gearing away from mastery.

    Additional Thought: Since the value of the effective time in casting this is over twice that of poh, when this is pretty effective it will be worth casting if you have chosen Power Word: Solace and then use the time you freed up for yourself to cast that and return the mana disparity. Use personal judgment.
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    How much do we actually get to cast pw:solace on raid fights? By my reckoning we need to cast it almost 15-20% of the fight for it to beat mindbender.

  6. #2366
    Quote Originally Posted by Venaliter View Post
    The duration is better then the cd; I'm good with that :-)
    You should look better at the tooltips, the duration got increased to 30 seconds and the cooldown got dropped to 30 seconds, so now you can have 100% uptime on it if you can afford it or wish to do so, which is a very nice change.

  7. #2367
    It's a nice change. But I am still not quite convinced that this spell is a great way to spend mana, unless you are swimming in it.

    Come 5.2 or so, sure.
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  8. #2368
    Quote Originally Posted by Venaliter View Post
    I think at this point, the spell is pretty decent. It would be better if it increased healing or reduced damage by 10% to those in it, but that's really just icing on the cake. Holy priests are shaping up pretty well in PvE.

    Of course, I don't theorycraft. Perhaps a wild Derevka will appear with the exact numbers, but my first impression is the spell is a significant HPM/HPS gain in it's niche.
    Its now just easier to hit breakpoints b/c the duration is longer... but of course, it doesnt make the spell that much greater unless you have to assume people are going to be inside sanctuary long enough to benefit from those points! Breakpoints are at 3.33, 9.98, 16.65 and 23.34%. (Actual rating numbers I'll put up on the blog breakpoints page later today/tomorrow).
    Last edited by derevka; 2012-08-18 at 11:29 AM.

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    23% is definitely going to be very easy to hit with the right raid buffs probably second tier. Think I will test that as soon as I can. Can't wait till new patch and Mists.
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    23 is pretty aggressive in the first tier.... its 7425 haste rating (assuming you have 5% haste raidbuff), otherwise its 9,921. Hitting the Lightspring breakpoint is more important than Sanctuary's... luckily the first 3 Sanct Breakpoints are at/below the Lightspring one.

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    At least HW: S still benefits from Inner Will.

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    Current build seem to have fixed Inner Focus, get it to crit every time now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lundmark View Post
    Current build seem to have fixed Inner Focus, get it to crit every time now.
    Woooooo!

    Now how does it work with Spirit Shell?
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    Still nothing other then a mana saver
    same with archangel, does not work with SS
    Last edited by Lundmark; 2012-08-20 at 01:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lundmark View Post
    Still nothing other then a mana saver
    Well, yes...when you get right down to it. But if it works with Spirit Shell, it'll be much more. That will turn it into a true throughput button.

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    that is what a guaranteed 100% crit is anyways

  17. #2377
    Does Inner Will stack with Movement speed increases, such as Levitate glyph, Boar's speed, and Body and Soul?

  18. #2378
    Quote Originally Posted by Venaliter View Post
    Does Inner Will stack with Movement speed increases, such as Levitate glyph, Boar's speed, and Body and Soul?
    No. The only thing I know of that stacks is Dark flight. Notice how its tooltip states "current movement speed".

  19. #2379
    Quote Originally Posted by Cephius View Post
    No. The only thing I know of that stacks is Dark flight. Notice how its tooltip states "current movement speed".
    While you are likely right, Feline Swiftness is confirmed to stack with other movement speed boosts.

    At least Inner Will, with the MoP mana restrictions, may have a good niche this expansion.
    Last edited by Venaliter; 2012-08-20 at 05:17 PM.

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    I've been running the IS glyph while leveling. I insist that it's saved me when I got over zealous and had to flee from too many mobs.

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