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    Quote Originally Posted by MinoEnha View Post
    Does anyone know if Fire elemental still takes snapshot of your stats,or will he update during a fight?
    Maybe this question was already answered,but i couldn't find it,I apologise in advance if that may be the case.
    It updates dynamically throughout its duration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klatar View Post
    You focussed just on one scenario that isn't realistic, but it made you post 'everything is fine'. Those fights you actually sim don't exist and will never exist...

    I mean all about you is 'everything is fine and when it isn't, i still insist it's okay'. Fact is that with GoUL, our mobility is extremely high, so there's no need to reach even more mobility. No fight ingame needs 100% mobility.

    And don't get silly. GoUL will be mandatory on all fights with movement since basically.

    And UF is working also counter mobility. You would be forced to use it every time it's ready (aside of ascendance), meaning you can't use it while moving. Right now, you can use it occasionally while moving without real dps loss. If you don't use GoUL, perfect gameplay means you can overcome little movement with shocks and UE and LS proccs. UE being gone because you have to use it on CD is working counter mobility.

    EDIT: And just liek expected, light movement fights still heavily favor EB over UF, by about the same margin. And even on high movement fights, EB is still 2k dps ahead.

    I actually don't believe you simmed those at all. EB even wins on heavy movement according to sims.

    Please give me your profiles that show UF ahead of EB in any possible scenario.
    I plan on leaving GoUL on permanently, mostly because there's not really anything like a stationary fight in T14 from what I understand.

    The problem with mobile UF is that you have to take GoUL, which weakens the bonus you get from the talent. On the flip side, it also increases the strength of your mobile DPS, so the net effect will be minimal (ie: not enough to take it out of third place).

    The difference between talents under any fight condition is fairly minor. We're talking less than 2% here, but I do expect that EB will remain on top as I don't think there's enough movement in any fight to cut into its casting time heavily. Noted that this is without considering the hotfix, which is going to be a ~2% improvement, so things will need to be re-run.

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    I think im going to have the guys to change race to pandaren from troll. I fear ill regret it in the long run but im up for looking "refreshing" and can see my feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawfury View Post
    I think im going to have the guys to change race to pandaren from troll. I fear ill regret it in the long run but im up for looking "refreshing" and can see my feet.
    According to EJ theorycrafting you'll be taking a (tiny) DPS loss doing that - but if you need to look at something fresh then go for it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nisala View Post
    According to EJ theorycrafting you'll be taking a (tiny) DPS loss doing that - but if you need to look at something fresh then go for it!
    Same here, but from Goblin, the problem is that Trolls/Goblins don't need external things to benefit from their racials, but you have to have a food buff if you're a Pandaren. A bit annoying out of raids.

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    Yeah, I was thinking they should implement something like the reusable/persists-through-death flasks that alchemists have access too for their everyday wanderings to fix this. A Never-ending Noodle Bowl or something ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delanath View Post
    A Never-ending Noodle Bowl
    Hells Yeah!

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    It's probably been asked before ... but is it normal that at lev 90 your stats are lower then on lev 85? Think i was stronger at lev 85 then now at lev 90.

    for instance ... my mastery dropped with 20%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogas View Post
    It's probably been asked before ... but is it normal that at lev 90 your stats are lower then on lev 85? Think i was stronger at lev 85 then now at lev 90.

    for instance ... my mastery dropped with 20%.
    What kind of gear did you have at 85? My stats drop as I level towards 90 as I can't replace my old gear with new gear of just as high quality. It's all because of the scaling. Been like that every expansion. Your stats will rise again as you acquire gear.

    Imagine if that didn't happen... I - resto shaman - went into MoP with a mastery of almost 80%. If that didn't drop but continued to rise as I level... holy crap, I don't even want to imagine those numbers *mind boggles*

    I wager that we'll be reaching about the same values at the end of MoP as we did during Cata.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogas View Post
    It's probably been asked before ... but is it normal that at lev 90 your stats are lower then on lev 85? Think i was stronger at lev 85 then now at lev 90.

    for instance ... my mastery dropped with 20%.
    As said by Seriss, its because of scaling. 1 Point of Mastery Rating gives more % Mastery at 85 than it does at 90. In full blues at 90 you will do about the same DPS you did in full HC Dragon Soul Epics at 85 because although your higher level and have higher ilevel items each point of a stat is worth vastly less. Every time you leveled up going from 85-90 you would have noticed a significant drop in stats in your character window.

    This is normal just to prevent - as Seriss said - insane numbers. They could just make it so the rating at level 90 gear is better than 85 gear (which it is, obviously) and continue increasing your stats, but you'd be hitting 100% chance to crit, every spell on a 1 second cast time long ago and only Mastery would be of any use to you at all. You'd dispise hit rating so much because you'd be stuck with like 50% Hit.


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