[TV] Avatar: Legend of Korra

[Very Tired]

Did they ever show Mako and Asami breaking up? Seems like they forget they had a relationship at all last season.

[Drikkink]

Part of me believes that they could probably try and make something more of that last episode of Book 1, like there is a deleted scene where Aang explains each chakra to her.

The cop out they could go for is that either (a) learning how to restore/take away someone's bending or (b) becoming a fully realized avatar (ie all 4 elements learned... remember Aang didn't know Firebending when he learned to enter the Avatar State) sorta bypasses the need for the chakras.

[Alraml]

Joo-Lee make a note; need runway

[Duronos]

The cop out they could go for is that either (a) learning how to restore/take away someone's bending or (b) becoming a fully realized avatar (ie all 4 elements learned... remember Aang didn't know Firebending when he learned to enter the Avatar State) sorta bypasses the need for the chakras.

Well don't forget that Aang learned how to Energybend just like that too.

[Zonas]

Well don't forget that Aang learned how to Energybend just like that too.

Eh, though AtLA's one was a bit of a cop out in the sense that there was no way nick would end it with Aang cutting down Ozai, I think there was enough lead-up to make the resolve good enough. With LoK, it was just thrown in to make the ending all sunshines and rainbows... because you know, the gritty/dark world of LoK couldn't end on ANYTHING but a happy note... Except for Asami, no one cared that she was royally screwed over.

For the Avatar State, I guess it's just a case by case thing. Aang only showed control after fighting Ozai, when his chakras were re-released. Though... I'll admit, in hindsight it seems kind of odd how all it took to release his god-like powers was just a hard pat on the back... For Korra, she never went into the Avatar State before due to her disconnection with the spirits, so when she became a "realized Avatar" she can control it already. This is me just trying to put a logical light to it though, and ignoring how blatantly BSy it was that she got the power through no real effort.

I at least hope they explore the whole, not connected spiritually, thing during Book 2.

[ranku]

sigh, it seems that i'm going to have to quote myself on this again. since people seem to have forgotten what was going on with korra in season one.

guys

GUYS

i was just rewatching some random episodes of korra (mainly the ending though) and when korra was looking over the cliff, something dawned on me. her controlling the avatar state makes sense all of the sudden.

it's not deus ex at all, it's just very very very well hidden subtext (bit too well hidden if you ask me). if you look for it you can see that korra slowly DOES become spiritual throughout the series, not through any of the traditional means no, but rather through her character development being limited to certain key emotional problems and then getting past them.....

these problems sync with what blocks the chakras


over the course of the series she unlocks her chakras without any help, guidance, or even instruction from someone else (looking at you tenzin, how could you neglect such an important section of her training?) though (like other things such as her bending style) she does it kinda sloppy. she goes through her trials out of order for what the chakras are, but even so they still unlock regardless of the order.

she started in episode two where she couldn't perform the leaf exercise (i have no idea what that thing is actually called so yeah) where her frustration exploded outward and she started blaming tenzin for everyting, for her not understanding, for her failing the exercise and even started telling herself that she couldn't learn not only because he was a "terrible teacher" but also because she didn't need it. these lies that she had been telling herself clouded her judgement, but when all the cards were on the table, she finally figured out how to move like a natural airbender and then realized that everything she had said had been a lie, forgiving tenzin and then apologizing for everything, realizing the truth that she could get it. thus unlocking her sound chakra first.

episode 3 was merely her learning about her surroundings and what problems faced her. episode 4 however, was an entirely different story. this entire episode had one main theme, facing your fears. when she finally comes to terms at the end of the episode she has unlocked the earth chakra. (i believe this is also why she was suddenly able to see fragmented visions, it all happened around the same time)

episode 5 as we all well know was the main love triangle episode where she confessed her feelings and kissed mako, realizing the fealing of love unlocked her air chakra. (the grief came from watching mako be with asami rather than her and from hurting bolin like she did)

her next one came in episode 8 when she felt responsible (or guilty) for letting tarlok get out of control and especially when it put her friends at risk. nothing gave her the pleasure needed to unlock the water chakra like beating tarlok's face in for a bit. (even if she did get captured)

the next one is debatible as to whether it comes in episode 9 or 11, but i would say 9 as that is the first big reveal. she searches deep inside herself to find aang's memories, hoping for a clue as to the dangers ahead. aang reveals the battle with yakone and she realizes that tarlok is his son, this insight dispelled all previous illusions that she may have had about blood bending and tarlok. I say this could also be 11 though because the same can be said for her realizing that nothing about the revolution is real, that the whole pretense was an illusion created by amon which she then used against him. light chakra, check.

next was the fire chakra, and sense this one was holding all the others back (even with the light chakra being debatable, by this point she had one chakra left and all that energy was rushing when this unlocked) this is when she unlocked airbending. her unstopable force of willpower to protect mako from amon unlocked this chakra and basicly at that point it was a dam bursting over the other 3 chakras she had unlocked that were supposed to come after this one. which is why she suddenly could airbend.

the last one is when she was looking over the cliff at the end, it was pretty obvious that she was supposed to be contemplating suicide due to everything that happened to her. but remember, the thought chakra is stopped by earthly attachment so if you are contemplating that seriously, even if she wasn't able to do it, she still had thrown away her earthly attachments. and at that moment she had achieved all that was required to be able to use the avatar state (which we know by now negates blood bending)


anyway on another note, i just realized that aang is the only avatar that we know of that went into the avatar state in it's uncontrollable form (i don't count roku since he did that while being trained to control it, plus i believe it was his first time using it, and he also cheated) and not only was he the only one, he did it multiple times at that...

so there you have it people. that's why korra can use the avatar state at will.

[Duronos]

Eh, though AtLA's one was a bit of a cop out in the sense that there was no way nick would end it with Aang cutting down Ozai, I think there was enough lead-up to make the resolve good enough. With LoK, it was just thrown in to make the ending all sunshines and rainbows... because you know, the gritty/dark world of LoK couldn't end on ANYTHING but a happy note... Except for Asami, no one cared that she was royally screwed over.

For the Avatar State, I guess it's just a case by case thing. Aang only showed control after fighting Ozai, when his chakras were re-released. Though... I'll admit, in hindsight it seems kind of odd how all it took to release his god-like powers was just a hard pat on the back... For Korra, she never went into the Avatar State before due to her disconnection with the spirits, so when she became a "realized Avatar" she can control it already. This is me just trying to put a logical light to it though, and ignoring how blatantly BSy it was that she got the power through no real effort.

I at least hope they explore the whole, not connected spiritually, thing during Book 2.

Zonas... You're really just hating on Korra just to hate on it. Look it's not A:TLA, sorry.

Really the Korra thing was different, not all Avatar's go down the same road, Aang and Korra were told earlier than 16 that they were Avatars... Though Korra was a natural with the other two elements. So what it seems like a copout to you at the end of Book 1, honestly they could easily just say there is a scene not put in there due to time constraints that explained a few more things. Some things you just have to assume, it's pretty simple.

[Immitis]

wow.. i just figured out who korras fathers voice actor was, i was wondering why it sounded so familiar



in b4 he teaches korra a code :P

also i feel like we need an entire show dedicated to sky bison tea parties

[Zonas]

Zonas... You're really just hating on Korra just to hate on it. Look it's not A:TLA, sorry.

Really the Korra thing was different, not all Avatar's go down the same road, Aang and Korra were told earlier than 16 that they were Avatars... Though Korra was a natural with the other two elements. So what it seems like a copout to you at the end of Book 1, honestly they could easily just say there is a scene not put in there due to time constraints that explained a few more things. Some things you just have to assume, it's pretty simple.

Sure, I wouldn't expect for Korra to have to find a crazy old man in some ruins and go on some journey into her innermost self with metaphors about running water... I wouldn't want her to go down the same road, but I'd rather see her go down A road.

And yes, anyone can understand that the short time that they had was a factor. But did it really need to be? Did the series have to end on a, everything is completely fine, note? Could it not have ended with uncertainty? With Korra not knowing what would happen now that she couldn't bend the other elements, or her accepting it and trying to do her best regardless? Then it could lead an open window in case they were able to add more Books to it. I think Book 2 would have been far more interesting if Korra went through the Civil War with the anxiety that she wasn't a complete Avatar.

It wouldn't have taken much longer to make a short scene instead of her crying over the edge of a cliff before mentioning how the Spirits have abandoned her, and there was no hope, then jumping off only to be saved and be turned into the new Spirit of War...

Just the fact that her "lowest point" came in such a way. She went to one, ONE waterbender for help, nowhere else, and immediately thought that she was doomed forever... You know... forgetting the spirits or how she was disconnected from them, despite how they mention it all throughout the series but not really exploring into it.

I guess they could explore the whole, Aang came to save the day, whenever Korra goes into the spirit world. It would at least be nice to see.

[Duronos]

Sure, I wouldn't expect for Korra to have to find a crazy old man in some ruins and go on some journey into her innermost self with metaphors about running water... I wouldn't want her to go down the same road, but I'd rather see her go down A road.

And yes, anyone can understand that the short time that they had was a factor. But did it really need to be? Did the series have to end on a, everything is completely fine, note? Could it not have ended with uncertainty? With Korra not knowing what would happen now that she couldn't bend the other elements, or her accepting it and trying to do her best regardless? Then it could lead an open window in case they were able to add more Books to it. I think Book 2 would have been far more interesting if Korra went through the Civil War with the anxiety that she wasn't a complete Avatar.

It wouldn't have taken much longer to make a short scene instead of her crying over the edge of a cliff before mentioning how the Spirits have abandoned her, and there was no hope, then jumping off only to be saved and be turned into the new Spirit of War...

Just the fact that her "lowest point" came in such a way. She went to one, ONE waterbender for help, nowhere else, and immediately thought that she was doomed forever... You know... forgetting the spirits or how she was disconnected from them, despite how they mention it all throughout the series but not really exploring into it.

I guess they could explore the whole, Aang came to save the day, whenever Korra goes into the spirit world. It would at least be nice to see.

When Amon took her bending it didn't seem like hers would be permanent considering she's the Avatar, she has all the others behind her. That doesn't seem weird that she gained her bending back at all to me. Most specifically to her.

[Immitis]

When Amon took her bending it didn't seem like hers would be permanent considering she's the Avatar, she has all the others behind her. That doesn't seem weird that she gained her bending back at all to me. Most specifically to her.

really the only reason she got her bending back so quickly is because the writers wanted everything resolved if it didnt get picked up for a second season.

they wanted season 1 to feel like a mini series in case it didnt work out.

was it a cop out? kind of, if it had gotten cancelled would people be bitching about how they never figured out if she got her bending back? yes

[Duronos]

really the only reason she got her bending back so quickly is because the writers wanted everything resolved if it didnt get picked up for a second season.

they wanted season 1 to feel like a mini series in case it didnt work out.

was it a cop out? kind of, if it had gotten cancelled would people be bitching about how they never figured out if she got her bending back? yes

But because she's the Avatar it also made more sense anyways that she had the ability to get her bending back.

[Zonas]

But because she's the Avatar it also made more sense anyways that she had the ability to get her bending back.

Even still though, being the Avatar just doesn't mean you're handed anything. Much how the Avatars all had to learn the four elements, I'm sure they all had to learn how to control the Avatar State. We aren't certain how it was for the others, as Aang was a special case given his lack of solid training, but they never made it seem like being the Avatar meant you didn't have to work for anything.

And even still, it's not a very compelling character when all your main character's problems can just be resolved with little effort. And like I said before, I'd be much more forgiving towards how they ended Book 1 if it had any premise in Book 2. But Korra still acts like she's the strongest and most capable person ever, despite Book 1 showing us otherwise.

She's not Seto Kaiba, she can't get more cocky with every failure. Though... it'd be interesting to see them do a scene with her threatening suicide in order to win a battle...

[Immitis]

Even still though, being the Avatar just doesn't mean you're handed anything. Much how the Avatars all had to learn the four elements, I'm sure they all had to learn how to control the Avatar State. We aren't certain how it was for the others, as Aang was a special case given his lack of solid training, but they never made it seem like being the Avatar meant you didn't have to work for anything.

And even still, it's not a very compelling character when all your main character's problems can just be resolved with little effort. And like I said before, I'd be much more forgiving towards how they ended Book 1 if it had any premise in Book 2. But Korra still acts like she's the strongest and most capable person ever, despite Book 1 showing us otherwise.

She's not Seto Kaiba, she can't get more cocky with every failure. Though... it'd be interesting to see them do a scene with her threatening suicide in order to win a battle...

i think its just part of korras attitude.

shes a teenage girl who has the expectations of the world upon her shoulders as well as the image of aang to live up to while also trying to find her own identity.

i honestly dont see a big difference between korra and aang besides the fact that korra is a teenager while aang was younger so shes got a bit more of that angst all teenagers have.

when you really look at the big picture it makes sense that she would be a bit emotionally unstable.

the people in korras timeline still vividly remember aang they have an avatar they can look at and say "hey why arent you being more like him why arent you getting shit done" aang didnt really have that.

shes always trying to prove herself.

[Immitis]

well... if this is true it certainly isnt a good sign for korra.

http://www.theouthousers.com/index.p...nicktoons.html

[Zonas]

well... if this is true it certainly isnt a good sign for korra.

http://www.theouthousers.com/index.p...nicktoons.html

Am I getting channels mixed up, or is this really not that big a deal?

I mean, only the new episodes show up on their main channel. And reruns of both LoK and AtLA already show up on the other one.

[Arrowstormen]

The newest episode certainly made me more interested than the first two-three episodes did. I was starting to believe that the brother was a good or at least neutral guy, but I guess jealous younger brother strikes again.

[Immitis]

Am I getting channels mixed up, or is this really not that big a deal?

I mean, only the new episodes show up on their main channel. And reruns of both LoK and AtLA already show up on the other one.

they are gonna stop showing new episodes on nickelodeon and put them on nicktoons.

its a pretty big deal.

[Zonas]

they are gonna stop showing new episodes on nickelodeon and put them on nicktoons.

its a pretty big deal.

Is it though? Unless it's an issue of not a lot of people having both channels, I don't see it.

Though, I do question the point of the change though... You'd think they'd put more effort into getting people to watch the show.

It honestly baffels me how little faith Nick has in this franchise. Considering AtLA is probably one of, if not the best show they've managed to produce in many years. Not to mention how the only thing they've managed to make recently are god awful live-action shows and shooting bolts of lightning down on Spongebob and Oddparents to keep them alive, despite both shows clearly begging for them to let them die.

[derpkitteh]

http://cheezburger.com/49412

according to this, that was just a rumor and it's not true. it's just moving to 8:30.