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    Quote Originally Posted by AbalDarkwind View Post
    Or, somehow, BIG SPOILER SPECULATION:

    He's Aang after losing his bending. It may be possible that the next Avatar can trigger if the previous Avatar loses his bending in addition to the previous Avatar dying. Considering Aang seemed to have no qualms about using Energybending, it's possible that someone beat him around the time Korra was born. It may also explain why Korra is having such a hard time learning airbending as well as contacting her previous lives: because Aang is still alive and, therefore, is a 'missing link' in the Avatar cycle.

    I probably over thought that, but, hey, speculation is fun!

    Also, there is a new episode next week called Turning the Tides. The finale two weeks from now is actually two episodes: Skeletons in the Closet and Endgame.
    Aang has no motive though... and besides who would be able to take his bending away? Aang is the only person so far that has been able to use energybending and it hasn't been confirmed that Amon is energy bending. Not to mention that so far the show has only stated that a new avatar is triggered when the previous one dies. Not just when their bending is taken. It's like you don't know Aang at all He definitely wouldn't go around stealing people's bending that didn't deserve it, AKA Korra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Army of Darkness View Post
    We know how Tarlok is able to blood bend during the day, but how is his father able to pull it off? Good water bending genes?



    He always stricked me as a bit of tool as well. Especially with the latest ending. I normally don't pay much atttention to shipping as well, but I'm actually hoping he doesn't end up with Korra, since KorraXMako seems like a inevitable cliche relationship.

    Also the VOA for the adult gang from TLA is bad. Specifically Sokka's.
    I don't know... I thought Toph was pretty good, and I personally think Sokka was perfect. Although, Aang is kinda weird. When old Aang spoke I fully expected him to sound like his 12 year old self haha.

  2. #902
    Quote Originally Posted by Vavivo View Post
    Ahhhh 2 weeks. This is going to be a painful wait
    There is still an episode next week, Nick is just advertizing the season finally.

  3. #903
    Quote Originally Posted by Shootandkill View Post
    Aang has no motive though... and besides who would be able to take his bending away? Aang is the only person so far that has been able to use energybending and it hasn't been confirmed that Amon is energy bending. Not to mention that so far the show has only stated that a new avatar is triggered when the previous one dies. Not just when their bending is taken. It's like you don't know Aang at all He definitely wouldn't go around stealing people's bending that didn't deserve it, AKA Korra. [COLOR="red"]
    Perhaps people like Tarrlok, Yakone, and even Ozai are Aang's motive. Perhaps he became disillusioned with people abusing their bending. As for Amon not Energybending, it's possible it is something else (Advanced chi blocking?), but the way Amon and Aang, as shown in this episode, remove bending has the same form. As for not knowing Aang at all. . .well, neither do you or anyone else currently watching. I'm a very different person than I was at 12, and I'm only 25. Aang would have 60 years on me, and I very much doubt he was the same person at 12 compared to how he was when either he died (At 66) or is now (At 82). Not to mention that Aang seemed, at least to me, different in Korra's visions, like he had grown much more serious. Especially since he Energybended Yakone so quickly and decisively. And, finally, as for no one else being able to take his bending away, anyone that had a stronger will than Aang's would be capable. For example, if Ozai or Yakone had stronger wills than Aang, Aang would have lost his bending instead of the other way around. Perhaps Aang tried to Energybend someone who had a stronger will than him. The part about the next Avatar being triggered if the previous Avatar lost his or her bending is pure speculation on my part, but it does fit with other pieces of the puzzle, namely Korra's blocks concerning Airbending and her spiritual side.

    Again, though, I'm just speculating.
    Last edited by AbalDarkwind; 2012-06-09 at 06:59 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AbalDarkwind View Post
    He's Aang after losing his bending. It may be possible that the next Avatar can trigger if the previous Avatar loses his bending in addition to the previous Avatar dying. Considering Aang seemed to have no qualms about using Energybending, it's possible that someone beat him around the time Korra was born. It may also explain why Korra is having such a hard time learning airbending as well as contacting her previous lives: because Aang is still alive and, therefore, is a 'missing link' in the Avatar cycle.
    Sorry but that really makes no sense to me for the following reasons (assuming the next Avatar can even be born if the previous one is still alive):
    1) The avatar wikia states Aang died peacefully
    2) If Aang was Amon, how can his spirit contact Korra from the afterlife, and why would he even do that to reveal everything to her?

    The only thing that gets this theory going is you can never get a good look on Amon's hands because the top side is covered with armor, possibly to chide the arrows that define an airbender. If someone does get a good view of Amon's hands where the arrows should be, please direct me to it so i can see for myself btw.

    Then again there's no reason it couldn't be, your theory is as good as mine. It just sounds absurd to me, that's all.


    On today's episode:

    HHOOLLLYYY SHIIIT! A lot of questions answered: the man from the flashbacks was Yakone and Tarlokk was indeed his son. We also know Aang didn't kill Yakone but simply took away bending, but this was already expected anyway because of the nature of Aang.
    The amount of new questions after the episode is pretty sick too:
    How did Amon know the location of Korra's prison?
    How could Amon just walk up Tarlokk while he was being bloodbended by Tarlokk?
    And the old question still stands: who the hell is Amon and who is he related to?


    My (new) theory after the events that happened:
    Amon must be a master waterbender himself, you can't just counter a bloodbender that easily. Not even Aang could do it if he wasn't in his Avatar state.
    But who the hell could he be related to then??
    Last edited by Goge; 2012-06-09 at 06:57 PM.

  5. #905
    anyone else noticed how sad Aang looks in the visions (flashbacks), especially when talking with Toph, he looks and talks like he's sad and tired.
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  6. #906
    Quote Originally Posted by Goge View Post

    1) The avatar wikia states Aang died peacefully
    2) If Aang was Amon, how can his spirit contact Korra from the afterlife, and why would he even do that to reveal everything to her?
    As for the first part, what is the source of that information? Kind of strange for a 66 year old Avatar to die peacefully when Avatar Kyoshi lived to over 200 years old. As for the second, we don't know that he did. None of Aang's visions were like Korra's. All of Aang's visions were accompanied by a previous Avatar specifically speaking to and guiding Aang, usually Roku. Korra was able to just see some of Aang's memories.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nab View Post
    That theory could be correct, since Amon has pale skin and so does Aang. But Aang would need to be like what, 90 years old or something?
    He'd be 82 (12 + 70 year gap between TLA and LoK). But, considering Bumi was 112 and still Earthbending like a champ or that Kyoshi was well over 200 when she died, I don't really see that being a problem.
    Last edited by AbalDarkwind; 2012-06-09 at 07:04 PM.
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  7. #907
    Quote Originally Posted by Greenfield View Post
    anyone else noticed how sad Aang looks in the visions (flashbacks), especially when talking with Toph, he looks and talks like he's sad and tired.
    The Equalists knew that Tarrlok was lying about Korra. So in my opinion they stalked and followed Tarrlok. That is probably why they arrived a couple of minutes after Tarrlok to the house.

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  8. #908
    Quote Originally Posted by the_fallen View Post
    The Equalists knew that Tarrlok was lying about Korra. So in my opinion they stalked and followed Tarrlok. That is probably why they arrived a couple of minutes after Tarrlok to the house.
    sorry I've removed that part because light in my head turned back on...
    Quote Originally Posted by SourceOfInfection View Post
    Now instead of being pissed off at four people at a time, I can be pissed off at TWENTY FOUR people at a time. That's called efficiency, my little enchiladas.

  9. #909
    Quote Originally Posted by BigAssBoy View Post
    There is still an episode next week, Nick is just advertizing the season finally.
    Oh, awesome then ^^

  10. #910
    Quote Originally Posted by AbalDarkwind View Post
    As for the first part, where is that information from? Kind of strange for a 64 year old Avatar to die peacefully when Avatar Kyoshi lived to over 200 years old. As for the second, we don't know that he did. None of Aang's visions were like Korra's. All of Aang's visions were accompanied by a previous Avatar specifically speaking to and guiding Aang, usually Roku. Korra was able to just see some of Aang's memories.
    avatar.wikia.com, search for timeline and you should be directed to it, look for 153 ASC
    Last edited by Goge; 2012-06-09 at 07:05 PM.

  11. #911
    Yes. but Amon doesn't really sound/look 82 years old.
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  12. #912
    What if Yakone is Amon? farfetched I know, but maybe after his bending was taken away, he hunted down and found out how Aang energybended. And decided to take away the bending from all other benders as well. It could also explain why he was able to resist Tarrlok's Bloodbending.

  13. #913
    Quote Originally Posted by AbalDarkwind View Post
    As for the first part, where is that information from? Kind of strange for a 64 year old Avatar to die peacefully when Avatar Kyoshi lived to over 200 years old. As for the second, we don't know that he did. None of Aang's visions were like Korra's. All of Aang's visions were accompanied by a previous Avatar specifically speaking to and guiding Aang, usually Roku. Korra was able to just see some of Aang's memories.

    He'd be 82 (12 + 70 year gap between TLA and LoK). But, considering Bumi was 112 and still Earthbending like a champ or that Kyoshi was well over 200 when she died, I don't really see that being a problem.

    quote from wiki: Eventually, at the age of sixty-six, Aang passed away. His hundred years of being frozen in a state of suspended animation in the Avatar State eventually weighed heavily on his body, and drained much of his life energy during that time.

    also... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3chFhCP5mQ
    Quote Originally Posted by SourceOfInfection View Post
    Now instead of being pissed off at four people at a time, I can be pissed off at TWENTY FOUR people at a time. That's called efficiency, my little enchiladas.

  14. #914
    Quote Originally Posted by Greenfield View Post
    quote from wiki: Eventually, at the age of sixty-six, Aang passed away. His hundred years of being frozen in a state of suspended animation in the Avatar State eventually weighed heavily on his body, and drained much of his life energy during that time.
    As my professors have always gleefully pointed out, any kind of wiki is not a source of information due to the heavy user editing wikis rely on. What is the original source? It would certainly make sense (He'd be 166), but he'd still be younger than Kyoshi was.

    EDIT: I just looked it up: there is no source. The only thing that comes close is an interview of Mike and Bryan:

    Interviewer: If there’s a new Avatar, that means Aang has passed on. If he died around age 70, isn’t that pretty young for an Avatar?

    Konietzko: You gotta keep in mind that he was frozen in a state of suspended animation for 100 years, so he kind of burned up some of his extra Avatar time.


    However, that's pretty vague, as Bryan never actually states he died. Just that he burned up some time. Also, that interview was in July 2010. I very much doubt they'd want to spoil anything.
    Last edited by AbalDarkwind; 2012-06-09 at 07:13 PM.
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  15. #915
    Quote Originally Posted by purseuswow View Post
    What if Yakone is Amon? farfetched I know, but maybe after his bending was taken away, he hunted down and found out how Aang energybended. And decided to take away the bending from all other benders as well. It could also explain why he was able to resist Tarrlok's Bloodbending.
    I thought that same thing for a moment, with Yakone being in so many flash backs and all. I mean, for so many episodes it kept putting a lot of emphasis on Yakone on trial. It would be somewhat strange if they were only using that for Tarlok's end of the story since it's already come to a swift end.

    But then wouldn't Tarlok know something about his father being Amon? If he did, it could explain his unhappy reaction when Korra compared the two of them. But Tarlok also asked "What are you?" when Amon attacked him. So I don't think that's quite it.

    Tarlok:"What are you?"
    Amon:*Deep breathing* *takes off mask* "Your father."
    Tarlok: "NOOOOOO!!!!!!!"

  16. #916
    Quote Originally Posted by purseuswow View Post
    What if Yakone is Amon? farfetched I know, but maybe after his bending was taken away, he hunted down and found out how Aang energybended. And decided to take away the bending from all other benders as well. It could also explain why he was able to resist Tarrlok's Bloodbending.
    Possible, since we now know Aang didn't kill Yakone, but i think Yakone was sentenced to a lifetime in prison, so he would still be there. I don't see any way he could have gotten out.
    He has the motive though: "If i can't have bending, no one can" and he might have learned the skill from being energy-bended by Aang. But would he really go so far as to take away bending from his own son?

  17. #917
    Quote Originally Posted by AbalDarkwind View Post
    As my professors have always gleefully pointed out, any kind of wiki is not a source of information due to the heavy user editing wikis rely on. What is the original source? It would certainly make sense (He'd be 166), but he'd still be younger than Kyoshi was.
    In a scientific study yes, wiki is not a source. Wiki article could be considered lowest possible form of a study, based on multiple sources.
    Quote Originally Posted by SourceOfInfection View Post
    Now instead of being pissed off at four people at a time, I can be pissed off at TWENTY FOUR people at a time. That's called efficiency, my little enchiladas.

  18. #918
    Quote Originally Posted by Vavivo View Post
    I thought that same thing for a moment, with Yakone being in so many flash backs and all. I mean, for so many episodes it kept putting a lot of emphasis on Yakone on trial. It would be somewhat strange if they were only using that for Tarlok's end of the story since it's already come to a swift end.

    But then wouldn't Tarlok know something about his father being Amon? If he did, it could explain his unhappy reaction when Korra compared the two of them. But Tarlok also asked "What are you?" when Amon attacked him. So I don't think that's quite it.

    Tarlok:"What are you?"
    Amon:*Deep breathing* *takes off mask* "Your father."
    Tarlok: "NOOOOOO!!!!!!!"
    My thinking behind that was, maybe Yakone faked his own death in order to get out of the public's eye. This way he can go around to doing what he wants without everyone looking around for the bloodbending menace that is/was Yakone. This might explain why Tarrlok doesn't know he's alive.

  19. #919
    Quote Originally Posted by purseuswow View Post
    What if Yakone is Amon? farfetched I know, but maybe after his bending was taken away, he hunted down and found out how Aang energybended. And decided to take away the bending from all other benders as well. It could also explain why he was able to resist Tarrlok's Bloodbending.
    I considered this too, and I guess it's a valid theory (like most others) at this point, but somebody made a few decent arguments against it. Firstly, their voices are fairly different. Secondly, their body types are. And thirdly, Amon appears to be no older than 40-something. Yakone would be at least 70, possibly even 80. But body types can change and it's entirely possible to put on a voice.

    Like I said, almost all theories are valid at this point. I'm guessing we'll be able to put some to rest after the season finale, even though I don't imagine we'll find out his identity quite yet. If he was unmasked, I feel like they would have to come up with a new scary twist for him for season 2 unless they bring out a brand new villain (which would seem like a weird choice).


    In other, non-spoilery news, am I the only one who expects Book Two to be about learning Metalbending? It would seem only logical, as Korra obviously never learnt it (which is odd to me, shouldn't it be part of the Earthbending training?).

  20. #920
    Quote Originally Posted by Greenfield View Post
    In a scientific study yes, wiki is not a source. Wiki article could be considered lowest possible form of a study, based on multiple sources.
    The problem is that there is no original source (I edited my post to point that out). The timeline that states Aang died has no source next to his death date. And, on Aang's page, the only thing that comes close to confirmation that he is dead is a two year old, vague interview with the creators where Byran danced around answering the question directly.

    Quote Originally Posted by MushroomBomb View Post
    In other, non-spoilery news, am I the only one who expects Book Two to be about learning Metalbending? It would seem only logical, as Korra obviously never learnt it (which is odd to me, shouldn't it be part of the Earthbending training?).
    I think it's going to be about Korra and her journey into the Spirit World as well as learning how to control the Avatar State. Metalbending may be along the road, but she doesn't know Lightning or Bloodbending either. I doubt Metalbending would get its own season. Perhaps she'll also learn an advanced form of Airbending?
    Last edited by AbalDarkwind; 2012-06-09 at 07:21 PM.
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