smoking in New York is currently only like 14% of the population, the number dropped from 20%+ or so since the campaign started.
smoking in New York is currently only like 14% of the population, the number dropped from 20%+ or so since the campaign started.
''If MMORPG players were around when God said, "Let their be light" they'd have called the light gay, and plunged the universe back into darkness by squatting their nutsacks over it.'' Quoted from-
Apologies, I wasn't talking about Canadian sin taxes. As others have said, in the U.S., tax revenue brought in from tobacco is at $17 billion. The amount spent in order to treat illnesses stemming from smoking costs $75 billion dollars. This isn't an argument that you can wave away by saying "these are clearly wrong if you just think about it." If you aren't going to provide proof to the contrary, I can't side with you.
And these ads aren't forcing you to quit smoking, and they aren't forcing you to watch them. If you could go into more specifics as to how your job forces you to watch them, maybe I could understand your point. But right now, companies still have as much freedom to show you disgusting, if dramatized, depictions of smoking related illnesses as much as the smokers have to burn up my nostrils as I walk by.
If you're going to say that non-smokers have to deal with it, I'm sure you can deal with seeing a pair of cancerous lungs.
You do know that people want to place these ads on the packs themselves, right? Also, you do know that these packs are highly visible too, right?
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Except it's the government itself trying to push these ads on people
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Well, then. Tell me an issue you are passionate about and I'll do the most aggressive and disgusting form of protest against it to your face.
The media pointing out minute concentrations of cancer chemicals in random everyday products is stupid.
Never once do the articles about the substances mention that you would have to drink a million bottles of dishwasher soap or whatever other nonsense they decide "has cancer" to have any actual harmful effect. I swear sometimes bored news stations look through peer-reviewed journals for a substance that causes cancer and then look through all uses of that substance just to run a shock story.
There are actual REAL causes of cancer, and smoking is one of the bigger ones.
An issue that I'm in favor of that causes thousands and thousands of deaths? You realize what you are defending, right?
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Get your own priorities straight, there's less offensive ways to educate.
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All I know is that if shock value is apparently a good thing, people have no right to criticize flag-burning, sex images, Lady Gaga, homosexual displays of affection, atheist demonstrations, Westboro Church funeral protests, et cetera.
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erm thats a stupid way to be i have never smoked and im sick of walking around in a cloud of disgusting smoke because people cant just quit wasting money so keep up the good work anti smokers one day we will live in a world where people dont have to make us feel sick
A study here seems to conflict with that.
http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-0...l-smokers.html
I'm not going to read through the whole topic to see if it's been mentioned, but since you put the words "smoker" in the topic, the anti-smoking adds keyed in at the bottom of the page XD
EDIT: I guess I might as well weight in as well. I'm getting kind of sick and tired of the anti-smoking things nowadays. I don't regularly smoke. I do smoke a tobacco pipe, on occasion, on a friend's porch or something, or outside of a bar. I do not smoke when I'm not in an area designated for it, essentially, where other people are already smoking. I don't understand why people are on a crusade to have smoking forcibly removed from every single bar and restaurant in every single state. If you don't like it, go to another bar or restaurant. If people cared to much, bars and restaurants would start going non-smoking only on their own, to get business back. It's not your constitutional right to be able to feel comfortable in every restaurant in the nation.
EDIT II: I'd also like a more comprehensive break down of this "One in every three people who ever try smoking will die from it" thing. What all are they counting as dying from smoking?
"Oh! he smoked a cigar after his baby boy was born, and 60 years later, died of heart disease! IT WAS THE DEMON TOBACCO!"
Actually, question: if the government allows the graphic imagery to be used in anti-smoking ads, can other entities sue the government for limiting their own graphic content? can the movie industry sue in regards to violence-based R-rated movie restrictions?
I highly, highly doubt you could be more offensive than the Westborough Baptist Church.
My point is, if I have to deal with it, so do you. Those assholes were protesting at my uncle's funeral, and while they are at the pinnacle of my disgust, I know I just have to grit my teeth and deal with it.
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The day they came to Mississippi, and the events that unfolded thereafter, made me proud to actually be from Mississippi. I'll try to find the article. Essentially, people found license plates from their state at the hotel they were staying at, and parked behind them, so they couldn't get out and go to the funeral they were going to protest. When they called the towing company, they essentially told them "Yeah. We'll get around to it eventually." And refused to come move the cars.
A day or so after the scheduled protest of the funeral, one of them was starting shit at a gas station when they were leaving the state... Somehow he got beaten up. They called the cops, but nobody in the crowd was "able" to identify to attacker, and the cops said that he was probably just making stuff up, and left.
I laughed. So hard.
EDIT: It's a tangent, I know. But I was reminded and felt like sharing.
Goddamn topic is making Google-ads put anti-smoking ads at the bottom of the page, making me look at stoma shaving dude.
No idea what these ads are you speak of...
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir.../adblock-plus/
The university I attend is a "smoke-free" campus, 90% of smokers smoke next to the signs that say so