Hemo pve spec reforging gemming stating rotation yadda yadda

[Novarx]

Just a quick simple question, what is the current hemo build for raiding, what are the stat prio's, and is there a different rotation priority or is it the same subtlety rotation?

[Lichu]

http://elitistjerks.com/f78/t119013-...ty_compendium/

[Ryme]

Did some brief simulations on the matter, best spec:

http://www.wowhead.com/talent#fchoZ0hZcGcsdu0RGo:mkM - dropping a point in Quickening and going 2/3 precision is fine.

Exp > Yellow Hit > Haste >= Spell Hit > Crit > Mastery > White Hit

Same rotation as subtlety, except for the obvious change. It plays a lot smoother than backstab and it's more forgiving, it's also only about 1k behind backstab.

[Maelstrom51]

Did some brief simulations on the matter, best spec:

http://www.wowhead.com/talent#fchoZ0hZcGcsdu0RGo:mkM - dropping a point in Quickening and going 2/3 precision is fine.

Exp > Yellow Hit > Haste >= Spell Hit > Crit > Mastery > White Hit

Same rotation as subtlety, except for the obvious change. It plays a lot smoother than backstab and it's more forgiving, it's also only about 1k behind backstab.

Make sure you simed it with the right glyphs. In my gear hemo spec does a little more than backstab according to shadowcraft.

[Theleklol]

Is there any merit in removing the point in Quickening to 1/3 (2/3 with 2/3 Precision, although I expect Precision to be stronger) Ruthlessness for a patchwerk fight? Or for that matter, 2/2 Initiative?

[Kael]

@Maelstrom: SC fails to model the hemo glyph in a backstab spec.

@Thelek: Hello Shadowcraft. Move talents around, see if the DPS goes up or down. Easiest answer check. That said, I don't know what you're talking about. Also, no, Initiative is one of the first talents to drop. In a hemo spec on my profile, Initiative is worth 150 DPS per point out of the 48.5k DPS I should be doing. The next lowest is opportunity (same tier, same ability altered), at 193. Even elusiveness is more valuable.

@Ryme/Thelek:Quickening? In PvE sub specs?

[Deleted]

quickeningi s worth the same as a boot enchant allowing you to get an extra 15 secondary stats into smething else ( or swaping 35 mastery for 50 haste) so for sub it's a posibility, i would rather have ruthlesnes tho

[Lichu]

Yeah, why mess talents up when you can achieve the same thing w/ an enchant?