State of Affliction in MoP Beta (Grasp & Rotation figured out, for now)

[Gobuchul]

They're not dynamically updating with haste effects either.

[Donodan]

well just tested it -and they are

[Gobuchul]

And I just tested it, and they're definitely not:

8/10 20:15:36.343  SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS,0x020000000000A922,"Gobuchul",0x511,0x0,0xF13081CD00001C11,"Melee Target",0x10a28,0x0,172,"Corruption",0x20
8/10 20:15:36.643  SPELL_AURA_APPLIED,0x020000000000A922,"Gobuchul",0x511,0x0,0xF13081CD00001C11,"Melee Target",0x10a28,0x0,172,"Corruption",0x20,DEBUFF
8/10 20:15:38.646  SPELL_PERIODIC_DAMAGE,0x020000000000A922,"Gobuchul",0x511,0x0,0xF13081CD00001C11,"Melee Target",0x10a28,0x0,172,"Corruption",0x20,360,-1,32,0,0,0,nil,nil,nil
8/10 20:15:40.547  SPELL_PERIODIC_DAMAGE,0x020000000000A922,"Gobuchul",0x511,0x0,0xF13081CD00001C11,"Melee Target",0x10a28,0x0,172,"Corruption",0x20,361,-1,32,0,0,0,nil,nil,nil
8/10 20:15:42.634  SPELL_PERIODIC_DAMAGE,0x020000000000A922,"Gobuchul",0x511,0x0,0xF13081CD00001C11,"Melee Target",0x10a28,0x0,172,"Corruption",0x20,361,-1,32,0,0,0,nil,nil,nil
8/10 20:15:44.836  SPELL_PERIODIC_DAMAGE,0x020000000000A922,"Gobuchul",0x511,0x0,0xF13081CD00001C11,"Melee Target",0x10a28,0x0,172,"Corruption",0x20,360,-1,32,0,0,0,nil,nil,nil
8/10 20:15:44.836  SPELL_AURA_APPLIED,0x020000000000A922,"Gobuchul",0x511,0x0,0x020000000000A922,"Gobuchul",0x511,0x0,109789,"Velocity",0x40,BUFF
8/10 20:15:46.738  SPELL_PERIODIC_DAMAGE,0x020000000000A922,"Gobuchul",0x511,0x0,0xF13081CD00001C11,"Melee Target",0x10a28,0x0,172,"Corruption",0x20,361,-1,32,0,0,0,nil,nil,nil
8/10 20:15:48.639  SPELL_PERIODIC_DAMAGE,0x020000000000A922,"Gobuchul",0x511,0x0,0xF13081CD00001C11,"Melee Target",0x10a28,0x0,172,"Corruption",0x20,361,-1,32,0,0,0,nil,nil,nil
8/10 20:15:50.658  SPELL_PERIODIC_DAMAGE,0x020000000000A922,"Gobuchul",0x511,0x0,0xF13081CD00001C11,"Melee Target",0x10a28,0x0,172,"Corruption",0x20,361,-1,32,0,0,0,nil,nil,nil
8/10 20:15:52.511  SPELL_PERIODIC_DAMAGE,0x020000000000A922,"Gobuchul",0x511,0x0,0xF13081CD00001C11,"Melee Target",0x10a28,0x0,172,"Corruption",0x20,361,-1,32,0,0,0,nil,nil,nil
8/10 20:15:54.646  SPELL_PERIODIC_DAMAGE,0x020000000000A922,"Gobuchul",0x511,0x0,0xF13081CD00001C11,"Melee Target",0x10a28,0x0,172,"Corruption",0x20,360,-1,32,0,0,0,nil,nil,nil
8/10 20:15:54.646  SPELL_AURA_REMOVED,0x020000000000A922,"Gobuchul",0x511,0x0,0xF13081CD00001C11,"Melee Target",0x10a28,0x0,172,"Corruption",0x20,DEBUFF
8/10 20:15:58.315  SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS,0x020000000000A922,"Gobuchul",0x511,0x0,0xF13081CD00001C11,"Melee Target",0x10a28,0x0,172,"Corruption",0x20
8/10 20:15:58.534  SPELL_AURA_APPLIED,0x020000000000A922,"Gobuchul",0x511,0x0,0xF13081CD00001C11,"Melee Target",0x10a28,0x0,172,"Corruption",0x20,DEBUFF
8/10 20:16:00.018  SPELL_PERIODIC_DAMAGE,0x020000000000A922,"Gobuchul",0x511,0x0,0xF13081CD00001C11,"Melee Target",0x10a28,0x0,172,"Corruption",0x20,360,-1,32,0,0,0,nil,nil,nil
8/10 20:16:01.519  SPELL_PERIODIC_DAMAGE,0x020000000000A922,"Gobuchul",0x511,0x0,0xF13081CD00001C11,"Melee Target",0x10a28,0x0,172,"Corruption",0x20,360,-1,32,0,0,0,nil,nil,nil
8/10 20:16:03.305  SPELL_PERIODIC_DAMAGE,0x020000000000A922,"Gobuchul",0x511,0x0,0xF13081CD00001C11,"Melee Target",0x10a28,0x0,172,"Corruption",0x20,361,-1,32,0,0,0,nil,nil,nil
8/10 20:16:04.722  SPELL_AURA_REMOVED,0x020000000000A922,"Gobuchul",0x511,0x0,0x020000000000A922,"Gobuchul",0x511,0x0,109789,"Velocity",0x40,BUFF
8/10 20:16:04.722  SPELL_PERIODIC_DAMAGE,0x020000000000A922,"Gobuchul",0x511,0x0,0xF13081CD00001C11,"Melee Target",0x10a28,0x0,172,"Corruption",0x20,360,-1,32,0,0,0,nil,nil,nil
8/10 20:16:06.508  SPELL_PERIODIC_DAMAGE,0x020000000000A922,"Gobuchul",0x511,0x0,0xF13081CD00001C11,"Melee Target",0x10a28,0x0,172,"Corruption",0x20,361,-1,32,0,0,0,nil,nil,nil
8/10 20:16:08.093  SPELL_PERIODIC_DAMAGE,0x020000000000A922,"Gobuchul",0x511,0x0,0xF13081CD00001C11,"Melee Target",0x10a28,0x0,172,"Corruption",0x20,361,-1,32,0,0,0,nil,nil,nil
8/10 20:16:09.695  SPELL_PERIODIC_DAMAGE,0x020000000000A922,"Gobuchul",0x511,0x0,0xF13081CD00001C11,"Melee Target",0x10a28,0x0,172,"Corruption",0x20,360,-1,32,0,0,0,nil,nil,nil
8/10 20:16:11.262  SPELL_PERIODIC_DAMAGE,0x020000000000A922,"Gobuchul",0x511,0x0,0xF13081CD00001C11,"Melee Target",0x10a28,0x0,172,"Corruption",0x20,360,-1,32,0,0,0,nil,nil,nil
8/10 20:16:12.848  SPELL_PERIODIC_DAMAGE,0x020000000000A922,"Gobuchul",0x511,0x0,0xF13081CD00001C11,"Melee Target",0x10a28,0x0,172,"Corruption",0x20,360,-1,32,0,0,0,nil,nil,nil
8/10 20:16:14.449  SPELL_PERIODIC_DAMAGE,0x020000000000A922,"Gobuchul",0x511,0x0,0xF13081CD00001C11,"Melee Target",0x10a28,0x0,172,"Corruption",0x20,361,-1,32,0,0,0,nil,nil,nil
8/10 20:16:16.035  SPELL_PERIODIC_DAMAGE,0x020000000000A922,"Gobuchul",0x511,0x0,0xF13081CD00001C11,"Melee Target",0x10a28,0x0,172,"Corruption",0x20,361,-1,32,0,0,0,nil,nil,nil
8/10 20:16:16.035  SPELL_AURA_REMOVED,0x020000000000A922,"Gobuchul",0x511,0x0,0xF13081CD00001C11,"Melee Target",0x10a28,0x0,172,"Corruption",0x20,DEBUFF

[xskarma]

Looking at this Feng the Accursed fight on heroic, and I'm glad Affliction AoE is getting buffed, cause we will seriously need it. >.< Looks like a Demo fight through and through at the moment, even IF the Soul Fragements or w/e are overtuned. Also, unglyph knockback for this fight.

[Donodan]

i am 100% sure - at least the tooltip changes when i use Demonsoul

When i apply corruption it ticks every 1.81 secs - after using DS its showing 1,4x

[EvreliaGaming]

The tooltips on the applied dots are updating with haste gains. Doom guards cast time also updates.

[Gobuchul]

Don't trust tooltips, duh. (Though the doomguard cast time *does* benefit from haste, dynamically.)

[Synchrony]

Looking at this Feng the Accursed fight on heroic, and I'm glad Affliction AoE is getting buffed, cause we will seriously need it. >.<

Where exactly was it said that Affliction AoE is getting buffed?

[xskarma]

Where exactly was it said that Affliction AoE is getting buffed?

Here:

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...1#post17917621

And here:

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...1#post17918559


Xelnath is known to work for Blizz in some capacity, he's given us inside information on Warlocks on a few occasions.

[Jessicka]

Xelnath is known to work for Blizz in some capacity, he's given us inside information on Warlocks on a few occasions.

Yeah, you can pretty much follow the discussion here, and see the results in the patch notes as they come. Straight up awesome and muchly appreciated he's taking the time to poke around here

Only mauve fire could top that.

[Xelnath]

Thank you guys for having an active and generally positive community here. I'd suggest it was due to good moderation, but that would just be ridiculous.

[Synchrony]

Here:

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...1#post17917621

And here:

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...1#post17918559


Xelnath is known to work for Blizz in some capacity, he's given us inside information on Warlocks on a few occasions.

This just made me smile Thank you for the links!

I am also wondering about the mechanics. Will the buff to SoC be enough to keep Affliction competitive in "kill all the adds within X amount of time/before they reach Y target" scenarios? Or are there mechanic changes in the works?

I love seeing the specs getting closer and closer each build. The only thing that worries me is that Demo is simming as the top Warlock spec in everything. I don't mind it being top AoE slightly, but I would likewise like to see Affliction top in sustained multi-target DPS, even if it's at the expense of another area.

If I saw the Doomguard CD lowered to a reasonable (3-5 min.) as well, I would probably squeal with joy.

[xskarma]

This just made me smile Thank you for the links!

I am also wondering about the mechanics. Will the buff to SoC be enough to keep Affliction competitive in "kill all the adds within X amount of time/before they reach Y target" scenarios? Or are there mechanic changes in the works?

No mechanics changes, Xelnath commented on that in the Demon Sac thread. It's just much too late in developement to do much more than number tweaking now.

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...1#post17929910

If they kept on changing things we'd never get Mists live, and, seriously, I want to play it right NOW, even beta can barely constrain my need for this to go live. >.>

[Kaizers]

If they kept on changing things we'd never get Mists live, and, seriously, I want to play it right NOW, even beta can barely constrain my need for this to go live. >.>

I really can't wait to lol at rogues/mages in the Mists pre-patch, then I get to level to 90 and lol some more.

[Synchrony]

No mechanics changes, Xelnath commented on that in the Demon Sac thread. It's just much too late in developement to do much more than number tweaking now.

Sad I guess that as long as our AoE is performing competitively by the start of MoP, I'll be happy.

However, I figured of all the things to change, the Doomguard CD would be the first, given how much simpler it would be to lower it's damage and CD relatively rather than gutting our DOTs so much in the end. Warlocks have been badgering about it since the beginning of Beta.

I guess we can't have everything perfect :P

[SvetlanaSvetlana]

Has anyone noticed that the sacrifice spell not only increases the damage of Drain Soul/Malefic Grasp, but also the additional DoT portion?

It goes from 50% to 75% for MG, and 100% to 150% for DS

[Hellfury]

Undocumented change, stealth nerf or bug?

Soulswap now copies dots and its duration, with glyph or without.

I hope its a bug becuase makes it abit useless, dont see the point of swamping a dot to another target when they are almost finished. The Shadowburrn+Soulswap is awesome but its baseline ability now its very meh.

[Susej]

Undocumented change, stealth nerf or bug?

Soulswap now copies dots and its duration, with glyph or without.

I hope its a bug becuase makes it abit useless, dont see the point of swamping a dot to another target when they are almost finished. The Shadowburrn+Soulswap is awesome but its baseline ability now its very meh.

I loved swaping dots off one onto another constantly while leveling to keep the same 'dots' rolling 'forever' shame if this is the case now =(

[Count Zero]

I loved swaping dots off one onto another constantly while leveling to keep the same 'dots' rolling 'forever' shame if this is the case now =(

New Warlock ironman challenge: keep the same dots rolling on different mobs for a straight hour.

[Swaggajuice]

Has anyone tested to see if the new Sacrifice for Aff sims higher than with the shivarra?