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    Quote Originally Posted by caninepawprints View Post
    I think the reason they're choosing to tax soda is because it's the most purchased beverage in the United States. It's even purchased more than any one type of food. It's not to make the population healthier, though, because taxing something isn't going to make people stop buying it. They'll just complain about the price increase. They're doing it to make money.
    Which is fine, if they say they are doing it to raise money
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    Quote Originally Posted by AeneasBK View Post
    Love how derailed this got on page one and ahsn't got back on track

    THE OP's POINT IS THAT THEY TAX YOU SO THEY CAN SUBSIDISE CORN FARMERS. THEY THEN WANT TO TAX YOU AGAIN FOR THE CORN PRODUCTS YOU'VE JUST PAYED FOR. THEY ARE TAXING YOU TWICE FOR THE SAME THING.

    THe arguments about lifestyle choices and whats good or bad for you don't even have any bearing. Npo surprise the OP left the thread 3 pages ago, as everyone just wants to rail about either how great they are becuase they are healthy or how great they are becuase they aren't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Landin55 View Post
    Like someone posted about the cigarette tax.....that sure helps right? No people just waste more money on it.
    I know quite a few who quit smoking when the price went up enough and they banned smoking indoors.

    Speaking of which, tobacco is another thing we subsidize and then later tax.

    Oil too.

    And Bourbon (made from corn).

    But don't touch my sodas!!! lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belfpala View Post
    I know quite a few who quit smoking when the price went up enough and they banned smoking indoors.

    Speaking of which, tobacco is another thing we subsidize and then later tax.

    Oil too.

    And Bourbon (made from corn).

    But don't touch my sodas!!! lol.
    LOL all the people I know buy "less". By less it means half a pack a day.......my family and friends are going to die young..../sigh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saisen View Post
    All food when taken in excess will ruin your health. So by your take on the definition all food is poisonous.
    That argument was covered many pages back. Please don't reignite it again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mistuhbull View Post
    So, is water a poison.

    Water, in and of itself, is it a poison?

    Yes or no.
    Definition of poison.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poison

    If the "water" that you are referring to contains chemicals that could cause damage to body/organs/tissue/cells, yes than it is a poison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callace View Post
    I love soda pop. I think it's one of the greatest creations in modern times. But I love Soda without high-fructose corn syrup even more. It's probably healthier to drink gasoline.

    there is no real significant difference between 1 ounce of sugar and 1 ounce of high fructose corn syrup.
    cane sugar contains glucose
    fruit contains fructose
    dairy contains lactose
    wheat and barley contain maltose and dextrose

    they are all sugars, the difference is some are sweeter than others so a larger amount of HFCS is used compared to sugar to get the same sweetness. personally i don't drink soda because i hate the carbonation, but from a chemistry standpoint your body treats sugar and HFCS the same way.
    neither are really bad for you in moderation.

    I say drink whatever you want, just do so in moderation

    oh and the only reason why they are considering taxing HFCS in the first place is because they already give subsidies to corn farmers to encourage food production. which in turn makes corn cheaper than cane sugar and therefore HFCS cheaper and more often used,

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    It's a money grab. The government needs more money to support their overspending and massive bureaucracy, so they pick on easy targets (tobacco is another one).

    Also, oxygen is a poison as well FYI, it just happens to be a poison that works for us in certain amounts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistuhbull View Post
    So you would want to tax professional athletes because according to the measurements people use to determine "obesity" pretty much every single NFL player (except QBs and Kickers) would be Obese
    to be fair NFC players are a bad example all around. they make tons of money to be fat and run into other fat men... not exactly the norm

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    Meh, I stopped drinking soda when I left my teens. Soda in my opinion, is a kids drink. Hell I can count on 1 hand the amount of times I've had soda in the past year.

    Men drink coffee (black or with milk, no sugar) in the morning, water during the day (at work) and beer/whiskey at night. Leave the sweet shit for the kiddies.
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    Bad food is just more readily available than good food in the United States.

    To what degree the corporations, government, or the people can be blamed for this is arguable. Everyone let this happen just for the sake of convenience and to make a quick buck. Bottom line is that people can't continue to eat this junk because health care costs are unsustainable in the long run, unless we're all set on a obesity and diabetes epidemic.

    A good example of this is the fact that school lunches have steadily become less healthy. Only now are people starting to realize the long term damage and finally lobbying for reform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McSpriest View Post
    to be fair NFC players are a bad example all around. they make tons of money to be fat and run into other fat men... not exactly the norm
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    6'3" 230, going by BMI he's severly overweight almost obese....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahrenheit View Post
    Meh, I stopped drinking soda when I left my teens. Soda in my opinion, is a kids drink. Hell I can count on 1 hand the amount of times I've had soda in the past year.

    Men drink coffee (black or with milk, no sugar) in the morning, water during the day (at work) and beer/whiskey at night. Leave the sweet shit for the kiddies.
    I'm a man and I drink soda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisisvacant View Post
    HFCS is poisonous. /thread
    What I put in my body is my choice, and i should not be charged due to deciding I will trade a few years of my life for enjoyment.
    If the government has that kind of authority they could tax meat/salt/tea/butterand other absurd things because they could potentially have negative effects to my health.

    And should they ever try to deny me of my freedom to do such things not only will i ignore the law but should the need arise I will protect my freedom with lethal means if necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skrump View Post
    And should they ever try to deny me of my freedom to do such things not only will i ignore the law but should the need arise I will protect my freedom with lethal means if necessary.
    ... you'd kill someone? Over soda?

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    If they start taxing people for being unhealthy to themselves and no one else around them then they will have to tax people to breath as well since there is pollutants in the air and so breathing is being unhealthy because you are subjecting yourself to said pollutants.

    But in all seriousness they will tax whatever they can get away with and it will just kill businesses increasing unemployment which then means those people will not be buying products which means where they shop goes out of business and the cycle repeats until they can blame it on capitalism and then try to convert the country so socialism and a dictatorship, some people will think its great at first until they realized they just allowed themselves to be enslaved and lose all rights they did have and by the time they realize why we kept the government out of the private market it will be to late because by the time they notice what is happening they will have given up all their powers and rights over to people who should be preventing such power grabs not creating them.

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    HFCS is fine in moderation. Just like Sugar is fine in moderation. If you intake too much of either it can cause heath problems.

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    I've heard both arguments back and forth on HFCS and lived in countries where they use real sugar instead of HFCS in pop (I refuse to say soda as it is indicative of the progressive American laze in taking the time to learn and maintain grammatically correct English). All I can say is soda pop using HFCS gives a much grimier body-wide feeling after I have consumed. I also lose weight much easier when I cut out any HFCS from my diet and switch to sugar based regular pop. That's just my experience.

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    Get subsidies on the production of raw materials, pushing prices down below the cost of production; get paid by municipal water sources to use their water for your bottled drinks; use post-consumer recycled content to produce plastic bottles at a net profit; sell soda on store shelves at 50000% mark up; lobby government to raise taxes on sodas, increasing your profit margins, and at the same time trick consumers into campaigning on your behalf for their beloved drink.

    you mad, economics? /trollface

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foosha View Post
    I'm hearing a lot of talk about proposed taxes to soda and sugary drinks in a lot of states. Most of it has been in New york as far as I'm aware, but it has recently picked up movement elsewhere.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/...6275ZU20100308 This article kinda gives a synopsis of it.

    Alright, this is a joke right? It has to be. A good amount of our taxes go to corn farmers so they can produce more corn than the market dictates, artificially lowering the prices so we can have a cheap sweetener/shelf life extender. So, we pay taxes to keep HFCS low, and now they want to tax HFCS to raise the price so people think twice about buying something we get taxed on to keep it at a low price. MY BRAIN, IT HURTS.

    People are saying this is a money grab, which it probably is, if I want my damn coke I will have my damn coke, and I assume a lot of other people will do the same, but...this is the most f*ed up logic I have ever witnessed. I mean C'MON

    Thoughts?
    did this not already happen? soda prices in Vermont are ridiculous now i could get milk or tea or even beer for cheaper..

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