Wait - what was the point of sending out Beta invites again?

[Anarchor]

Looks like someone who doesn't know what a beta is...

Looks like someone doesn't know what the state of the current beta build is either. Just a comment to the uninformed: the last beta build caused tons of major and critical bugs, up to the point that a lot of people can't even manage to run the executable or launcher anymore to get the game running. Tons of people stuck on loading screens, getting constant disconnects if they try to use an ability, vendors and NPCs unresponsive bugs etc.

In other words the latest beta build appearantly is extremely unplayable and there is very little point for a majority of people to even try to login or run the beta-client until the next build is put in place (IF that one fixes all the critical bugs for most people obviously).

[huth]

That's way exaggerated, Anarchor. Most can still play, most stuff still works, and a bunch of annoying crash bugs was fixed as well.
The build is very much playable and most of the bugs can be worked around.

I'm not in beta, I just read about it. Still I have a hard time believing you can get far leveling/questing wise w/o doing any pick up quests, considering how linear the content is nowadays.Thats what I read about the bug anyway, it might be very well exaggeration on the part of many testers and you can still loot the items. The pink boxes excuse is hillarious though, because despite the often quoted fixes it's just a graphical bug, not like a whole part of the world is missing which would kill you instantly if you step in it.

You can just go to a different zone, or, usually, just skip the quest. It's a bit of a problem in the Pandaren starting zone, but that sort of stuff does happen in beta, and the zone worked before, so there's plenty of pandaren going around. Most of the time, it's not that big an issue, and i rarely run into any actual problems leveling my monk despite it. Pickup quests are far more rare than some people make them seem. Also, yeah, pink boxes look strange, but they don't do jack shit to stop you from doing anything. Except seeing, maybe.

[Haidaes]

You can just go to a different zone, or, usually, just skip the quest. It's a bit of a problem in the Pandaren starting zone, but that sort of stuff does happen in beta, and the zone worked before, so there's plenty of pandaren going around. Most of the time, it's not that big an issue, and i rarely run into any actual problems leveling my monk despite it. Pickup quests are far more rare than some people make them seem.

I guess it depends on the zones. I know a few that would certainly stop the plot in certain zones (Deepholme,Uldum for example) but in some cases they might actually be only the side quests which aren't required to further progress. Out of curiosity, do you use heirlooms ? They would certainly help if you had to skip parts of zones.

Also, yeah, pink boxes look strange, but they don't do jack shit to stop you from doing anything. Except seeing, maybe.

My saying.

[Epileptica]

Honestly, people who don't know what a beta is shouldn't have gotten an invite until the very end at best, regardless of AP or not.
Glad to have mine, I do what works and wait for patches.
Pretty easy to grind to 86 in about 30mins anyway even without quests... which is the level cap(for now), and only one of the new zones is implemented, but there is plenty in it to explore.

The problem is that Blizz isn`t copying chars for beta testing any more - they are just pending for days and days. I to would be happy if I could start testing at 85 as a sub, while they are fixing the quest buggs that congests the startibng areas.

[jonte912]

The problem is that Blizz isn`t copying chars for beta testing any more - they are just pending for days and days. I to would be happy if I could start testing at 85 as a sub, while they are fixing the quest buggs that congests the startibng areas.

are you copying from EU or NA?

EU is always slow/buggy while NA char copy is usually within 10 min

[huth]

I guess it depends on the zones. I know a few that would certainly stop the plot in certain zones (Deepholme,Uldum for example) but in some cases they might actually be only the side quests which aren't required to further progress. Out of curiosity, do you use heirlooms ? They would certainly help if you had to skip parts of zones.

Currently i am, but remember that you can reach 85 with only 3 out of 5 zones completed. There's a lot more quests available than one would ever need.

[Decklan]

"The game is buggy, broken, and a lot is not yet implemented, why send out beta invites?!"

So... you want to "beta test" an unbroken, not buggy game?

Report what's broken or buggy and move on to something else. Just because you WANT to test a certain aspect of the game, say your main class at level 85, doesn't mean you always get to. Go test out the starter zones and lower levels. The new speccing system and talent trees still need A LOT of feedback.

[Epileptica]

are you copying from EU or NA?

EU is always slow/buggy while NA char copy is usually within 10 min

Thanks for the tip. It was EU - but now all options say Not eligible - for all accounts.

[zanzimar]

Beta IS beta... things get changed around so different stuff can be tested. If you have been in any beta before you should know this. Put up with it or just stop testing/whinging. I have not even been given beta access yet and a lot who have don't even deserve to be involved.

[Amsden]

Hopefully the APers who thought they were getting a demo will stop logging in soon. The only real problem is Blizzard is sending out way too many invites for the current stage of the beta.

[reve]

Character copy is broken because Blizzard has about 3-4 times more people in the beta than there should be, that and overcrowding might never actually be fixed.

As for bugged quests, this is very early beta, it feels more as if it was alpha sometimes, that's the reason for a lot of things being broken. Now you might argue that they shouldn't have even released this seeing how a lot of things simply don't work at all and that this "testing" isn't actually testing and a real beta test overall but it's just waiting for bug fixes so you can actually test something. And you might actually be true... But oh well...

[Epileptica]

"The game is buggy, broken, and a lot is not yet implemented, why send out beta invites?!"

So... you want to "beta test" an unbroken, not buggy game?

Report what's broken or buggy and move on to something else. Just because you WANT to test a certain aspect of the game, say your main class at level 85, doesn't mean you always get to. Go test out the starter zones and lower levels. The new speccing system and talent trees still need A LOT of feedback.

I love it when people take key words and conclude

As for me - I can`t test much atm. Char copy is not possible, and working quests stop at level 2. So right now I am killig squirrels and tigers at lvl 7 - so I hopefully can start testing talent trees, while waiting for them to fix the biggest issues.

And I do know what beta-testing is, I have done it with blizz for 5 years, I still think the kinda buggs I am seing is way before beta testing - but maybe my standards are to high. Afterall - my own income is generated from software - tested by my own employees and co workers

[Apathy -]

Beta is beta, Of course It's not going to be perfect. WE the player base is what makes the beta finished being well Beta of course. That's the point of beta invites

To help them finish it sooner.

[Zardi]

The problem is that Blizz isn`t copying chars for beta testing any more - they are just pending for days and days. I to would be happy if I could start testing at 85 as a sub, while they are fixing the quest buggs that congests the startibng areas.

If you have characters pending, do NOT log into the beta. Otherwise, your character copies are put at the back of the queue again, and -at least in EU- that is around 20 hrs.

[Bluey111]

This guy doesn't know what a beta is for I think... complaining about quest bugs and mob respawns, this is all the testing that needs to be done in a beta so it doesn't happen in live. Blizz should never have offered MoP beta to annual pass holders

[ophion1990]

The point of sending out 550k beta invites was to make all te people who signed up for AP stop with their whining on the forum? The bugs you see are natural to beta, there are some areas ready for testing, test thos and gove Blizzard creative feedback on how to make this game better at launch. Also, how would the be in a hurry to "release" beta? They made the content and are still working on it, if it doesn't work it isn't finished yet and you should go test some of the stuff they did finish. (Like a part of the jade forest)

[Amsden]

Again - I have been in most of the other betas - and this is not a beta - it`s an alpha test. And they shouldn`t need one million people to see this.
If you 2-3 weeks into the "beta" can`t test any new content - then there is really no point in inviting hundreds of thousands of new people.

Edit: and thanks to jonny888 for getting my point.

The only reason Blizz keeps inviting people is because of the crying. I agree 100% that this beta is not ready for the 500 thousand or whatever amount of people it has now. Blizz should have stuck to their guns on this one. I mean it's not like they can threaten to unsub, if they block Blizz from charging their cards it's a breach of contract and Blizz can take legal action so it's a lose lose for APers.

[Cairhiin]

If they had waited a few months, got some of the debugging out of the way - then people people would actually get to test the new content. I would have been more than happy to wait until summer for testing - if I actually got to do some testing. Now I have a beta-opt-in, but cant test anything. My point is that blizz was in a hurry to release "something", but they would have been better of waiting.

Most of your problems got introduced in the newest beta build, the two builds before it were more than playable.

[boyzma]

The only reason Blizz keeps inviting people is because of the crying. I agree 100% that this beta is not ready for the 500 thousand or whatever amount of people it has now. Blizz should have stuck to their guns on this one. I mean it's not like they can threaten to unsub, if they block Blizz from charging their cards it's a breach of contract and Blizz can take legal action so it's a lose lose for APers.

I love the way that people who are already in the beta want to put down the Ap'ers...either in or not in. You are not special snowflakes...you are not better than anyone else. So get over yourselves and quit whining about Blizz letting so many in. Don't like it? Oh well.

[Amsden]

I'm not whining. People are discussing what's wrong with the beta, and that's my opinion. Don't like it? Oh well.