New gfx card

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I need a new gfx card, i've been looking at some different GTX 560 Ti's. I chose this Twin Frozr III as i heard the performance on this model is really really great, and because its one of the newer ones, with 448 cuda cores. But then i found a GTX 570, also msi Twin Frozr, with same amount of ram (1.25gb).
Is the GTX 570 an obvious winner in this, and is it worth spending a little more money on Should i look at some other versions of 560 Ti instead, or other cards in this price range? Please help
Unfortunetly my motherboard does not have a PCI-E 3.0 x16 slot, so i cant get the new GTX 680

GTX 560 Ti: newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127615
GTX 570: newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127582
Motherboard: uk.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8Z68V_PRO/#specifications

[Sunius]

First of all, GTX 680 does not require PCIe 3.0 slot, it SUPPORTS it. So it supports 2.0 slot and all the others.

Anyway, it's down to your preference. GTX 570 is a little bit faster (around 5-7%, not more), but costs a bit more as well.

[glo]

1. You don't need a PCI-E 3 slot to use a 680.
2. The current Nvidia line is completely out of date and beaten by any 7xxx card from AMD -except- for the 680. So if you want something in the lesser cost range, go AMD.

[Deleted]

First of all, GTX 680 does not require PCIe 3.0 slot, it SUPPORTS it. So it supports 2.0 slot and all the others.

Anyway, it's down to your preference. GTX 570 is a little bit faster (around 5-7%, not more), but costs a bit more as well.

Hm, so it would work perfectly fine in that motherboard?

[glo]

Hm, so it would work perfectly fine in that motherboard?

Yes, the 680 will not be bottlenecked by 2.0 bandwidth.

However, like I pointed out earlier, don't purchase anything else other than the 680 in the Nvidia line if you're looking for the best performance in any given budget.

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I think if you're looking at the 560Ti's (the 448 cores) then that's more than enough to stay above 60FPS in pretty much every situation, pair it with an i7 2600k and you're sorted, that's a really nice cost effective WoW battering ram :P

Imo though, jump up a tier and future-proof yourself for 2 years with an AMD 7870. Just sayin'

[Deleted]

Yes, the 680 will not be bottlenecked by 2.0 bandwidth.

However, like I pointed out earlier, don't purchase anything else other than the 680 in the Nvidia line if you're looking for the best performance in any given budget.

Well the 680 would have been my choice if i knew it supported 2.0 aswell, so deffinetly going for that..
However, is suppose its best waiting for some OC versions of it to hit the market. Sucks to order a stock, and then theres a better version out few weeks later

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I think if you're looking at the 560Ti's (the 448 cores) then that's more than enough to stay above 60FPS in pretty much every situation, pair it with an i7 2600k and you're sorted, that's a really nice cost effective WoW battering ram :P

Imo though, jump up a tier and future-proof yourself for 2 years with an AMD 7870. Just sayin'

Hm AMD does seem to have more options out for a better price atm. Unfortunetly i have only had troubles with the AMD cards i had in the past, which kinda pushes me away from buying their products again..

[glo]

Hm AMD does seem to have more options out for a better price atm. Unfortunetly i have only had troubles with the AMD cards i had in the past, which kinda pushes me away from buying their products again..

If you're an overclocker, the 7970 is the better card. An overclocked 7970 beats an overclocked 680 by a noticeable margin.

AMD doesn't make the cards, the manufacturers do. If you've had problems with certain cards, it's 100% the manufacturers fault, not AMD. If you stick with the good names such as Sapphire, XFX, ASUS, and such you'll be fine.

[noteworthynerd]

Moved to the Computer Build / Upgrade Help forum.

[Deleted]

If you're an overclocker, the 7970 is the better card. An overclocked 7970 beats an overclocked 680 by a noticeable margin.

AMD doesn't make the cards, the manufacturers do. If you've had problems with certain cards, it's 100% the manufacturers fault, not AMD. If you stick with the good names such as Sapphire, XFX, ASUS, and such you'll be fine.

I have no understanding of how to OC at all. And yes i know the manufacturers make the cards based on AMDs engine, (something like that anyway)..
Maybe i should be looking at some AMD cards again though.

[ironik]

Dual 560 Ti's here... you're not getting much more in the way of performance with the 570's, just a bigger pricetag. I would stick with a 560 Ti if I were you.

[sizzlinsauce]

you can find some brand new gtx 470's for $200 now a days those come close to 570's if you can keep the heat down in ur pc

[glo]

I have no understanding of how to OC at all. And yes i know the manufacturers make the cards based on AMDs engine, (something like that anyway)..
Maybe i should be looking at some AMD cards again though.

Overclocking a video card is extremely easy since you can adjust almost everything while you're still booted into Windows with a program like MSI afterburner. You only really have 3 variables to set, and learning what they do is easy peasy if you watch a youtube guide. It's usually also extremely safe to do compared to processors.

Basically, for a little effort, you can substantially improve the performance of any given video card (well beyond factory OC) and have it perform equal or higher to the next model tier. (7950 OC > 7970 stock clocked)

In terms of which brand, maybe wait until the 670/660 Nvidia cards hit then and see where performance stands if you'd like to save some money.

[hapylol]

I think if you're looking at the 560Ti's (the 448 cores) then that's more than enough to stay above 60FPS in pretty much every situation, pair it with an i7 2600k and you're sorted, that's a really nice cost effective WoW battering ram :P

Imo though, jump up a tier and future-proof yourself for 2 years with an AMD 7870. Just sayin'

Maccas,

The i7-2600k currently performs WORSE then the i5-2500k in almost all games especially WoW and it also costs $100 more.

[glo]

Maccas,

The i7-2600k currently performs WORSE then the i5-2500k in almost all games especially WoW and it also costs $100 more.

No it doesn't. Sub 0.5% performance differences are seen on either chip.

The i5-2500k is exactly the same processor as an i7-2600k. Like, they're both manufactured in the same place, on the same die, and are identical in every way. The only difference between the two is the label they slap on the higher binned chips, and the subsequent enabling of hyperthreading.